Official 2008 Summer Olympic's Thread - Page 8

jaxmagicman · 08-11-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by f.montoya

Not the best quality but in case you missed the 4X100 relay...

YouTube - 2008 olympics mens 400m relay intense race

Incredible. Period.

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Melo · 08-11-2008, 11:27 AM

I just happened to stay up later than normal and caught this race. What a tremendous race and an absolutely stunning finish.

jaxmagicman · 08-11-2008, 11:28 AM

Watching it again, I just realized they set the world record by 4 seconds. That is unheard of.

Terpripken · 08-11-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Watching it again, I just realized they set the world record by 4 seconds. That is unheard of.

Yeah...now that I have had almost 24 hours to digest what I saw last night...I am realizing how fortunate I was to have witnessed such an epic Olympic moment.

Terpripken · 08-11-2008, 10:50 PM

More Phelps time tonight as he goes for #3. The 4x200 freestyle relay team will also try to qualify for another showdown tomorrow with the Frenchies.

Bobbuttons · 08-11-2008, 11:12 PM

Yang Wei's got some skilz.

Jeremy Weimer · 08-11-2008, 11:33 PM

Anyone excited for Phelps next race tonight? Can't wait to see it. Also enjoying the men's gymnastics right now.

Terpripken · 08-11-2008, 11:36 PM

We just won 6 medals and set 3 World records in like half an hour....just another day at the office for the USA swim team.

Terpripken · 08-12-2008, 12:23 AM

The US Mens Gymnastics Team is bringing it tonight as well. Maybe China will totally choke....stranger things have happened.

Terpripken · 08-12-2008, 12:35 AM

Man...nice rotation on the High Bar....could be another special night.

Jonzard · 08-12-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

Yang Wei's got some skilz.

Those last two guys on the rings were just insane. That's the thing about that event, just being able to do it astounds me. We can all for the most part run or swim, but 99.9% of us could do nothing but hang on those things and twist in the wind.

Bobbuttons · 08-12-2008, 12:48 AM

Okay, I don't get this screwed up scoring system. Two Americans compete flawlessly with very difficult routines and completely stick the landing on the high bar and can't crack higher than 15.7, yet this Xiaoping Li does a hugely difficult vault, doesn't stick the landing and takes a huge step backward, and he gets a 16.775? That's a joke.

Jonzard · 08-12-2008, 12:49 AM

Vault has a different scoring system. Those scores were for the events, which are not normalized across them. NBC explained it.

Bobbuttons · 08-12-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonzard

Vault has a different scoring system. Those scores were for the events, which are not normalized across them. NBC explained it.

Meh. I preferred the old scoring system.

MorseMoose · 08-12-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

Meh. I preferred the old scoring system.

I'd rather see a difficult set with no mistakes than a very difficult set with a few mistakes. With this new system, that very difficult set is at a huge advantage.

I agree that the old system is better but definitely needs tweaks. That or the new system needs tweaks back to something more similar to the old system.

Terpripken · 08-12-2008, 01:19 AM

This last rotation could be very good....or very bad for US.

Terpripken · 08-12-2008, 01:45 AM

Talk about clutch. Artemev sits on the pine all day, watches his 2 teammates choke...then delivers the goods to clinch the bronze for the USA...good stuff.

Erik W. · 08-12-2008, 02:41 AM

Watching Coughlin's butterfly stroke after watching Phelps' is like seeing a grade school recital after a London Philharmonic performance.

mrskippy · 08-12-2008, 04:52 AM

I don't like this scoring system. OK, so you can get 16+ on one aparatus, but it's not possible on another aparatus. If they are not normalized across the board, you pretty much have a rigged system.

IMHO, everyone should start at zero. Than certain moves are worth X number of points. Only these moves would count in the score. The only issue there is if a gymnast has a new move, that has not been assigned a point value. But, I think you could find a way to work that out. Than rather than take off points for the mistake, you just either give zero for not finishing the move or give 1/4-3/4 credit (keeping it the same for all). Every gymnast gets X amount of time to perform.

Man do I hate these commentators though. "Oh that's going to be a deduction." -- The problem is that judges probably have that same mindset and they watch more for screw ups than anything else. And, that guy watching the routine on the replay computer (total BS -- unless you're going to do a slow-mo on ALL routines, which is impossible).

Erik W. · 08-12-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mrskippy

Man do I hate these commentators though. "Oh that's going to be a deduction." -- The problem is that judges probably have that same mindset and they watch more for screw ups than anything else.

That wasn't any different under the old system. It was also possible to do a routine/vault that literally couldn't be a perfect 10 because of difficulty.

The only thing the new system did was split the elements so that it wasn't the same set of judges looking for both execution and impression.

08-11-2008, 11:28 AM	#143
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Watching it again, I just realized they set the world record by 4 seconds. That is unheard of. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-11-2008, 11:12 PM	#146
Bobbuttons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Picturesque Mentor-on-the-Lake, Ohio Posts: 3,708	Yang Wei's got some skilz. __________________ Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw!

08-12-2008, 12:48 AM	#152
Bobbuttons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Picturesque Mentor-on-the-Lake, Ohio Posts: 3,708	Okay, I don't get this screwed up scoring system. Two Americans compete flawlessly with very difficult routines and completely stick the landing on the high bar and can't crack higher than 15.7, yet this Xiaoping Li does a hugely difficult vault, doesn't stick the landing and takes a huge step backward, and he gets a 16.775? That's a joke. __________________ Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw!

08-12-2008, 12:49 AM	#153
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	Vault has a different scoring system. Those scores were for the events, which are not normalized across them. NBC explained it. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

08-12-2008, 02:41 AM	#158
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Watching Coughlin's butterfly stroke after watching Phelps' is like seeing a grade school recital after a London Philharmonic performance. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)! Last edited by Erik W.; 08-12-2008 at 03:28 AM.

08-11-2008, 11:27 AM	#142
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	I just happened to stay up later than normal and caught this race. What a tremendous race and an absolutely stunning finish.

08-11-2008, 10:50 PM	#145
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	More Phelps time tonight as he goes for #3. The 4x200 freestyle relay team will also try to qualify for another showdown tomorrow with the Frenchies.

08-11-2008, 11:33 PM	#147
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,411	Anyone excited for Phelps next race tonight? Can't wait to see it. Also enjoying the men's gymnastics right now.

08-11-2008, 11:36 PM	#148
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	We just won 6 medals and set 3 World records in like half an hour....just another day at the office for the USA swim team.

08-12-2008, 12:23 AM	#149
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	The US Mens Gymnastics Team is bringing it tonight as well. Maybe China will totally choke....stranger things have happened.

08-12-2008, 12:35 AM	#150
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	Man...nice rotation on the High Bar....could be another special night.

08-12-2008, 01:19 AM	#156
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	This last rotation could be very good....or very bad for US.

08-12-2008, 01:45 AM	#157
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	Talk about clutch. Artemev sits on the pine all day, watches his 2 teammates choke...then delivers the goods to clinch the bronze for the USA...good stuff.

08-12-2008, 04:52 AM	#159
mrskippy All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,011	I don't like this scoring system. OK, so you can get 16+ on one aparatus, but it's not possible on another aparatus. If they are not normalized across the board, you pretty much have a rigged system. IMHO, everyone should start at zero. Than certain moves are worth X number of points. Only these moves would count in the score. The only issue there is if a gymnast has a new move, that has not been assigned a point value. But, I think you could find a way to work that out. Than rather than take off points for the mistake, you just either give zero for not finishing the move or give 1/4-3/4 credit (keeping it the same for all). Every gymnast gets X amount of time to perform. Man do I hate these commentators though. "Oh that's going to be a deduction." -- The problem is that judges probably have that same mindset and they watch more for screw ups than anything else. And, that guy watching the routine on the replay computer (total BS -- unless you're going to do a slow-mo on ALL routines, which is impossible).