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Old 04-07-2003, 01:45 AM   #41
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These four will be doing a closer-by-committee until Nen gets back.
Any idea when he will be back?
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Old 04-07-2003, 02:19 AM   #42
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Cubs:

Grudzielanek 2b
Gonzales SS
Sosa RF
Alou LF
Choi 1B
Patterson CF
Bellhorn 3B
Miller C

Rotation:
Wood
Clement
Prior
Estes
Zambrano
Look for Juan Cruz to make some starts as the season goes on. He is pitching very well in the pen, and last year he started most of the season. So maybe put him as a spot starter. I see Choi getting more and more starts as the season goes on. Right now I think they are just trying to get him "used" to the Bigs. So far this year the Cubs are showing a potent offense. They are getting a lot out of Gonzalez and Gruzielanek.
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Old 04-07-2003, 02:44 AM   #43
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Hitting
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CF Biggio
3B Blum/Ensberg*
1B Bagwell
LF Berkman
2B Kent
RF Hidalgo
C Ausmus
SS Lugo

Bench: Chavez, Zaun, Vizcaino(DHvL), Hunter, Merced(DHvR)

* - Ensberg usually starts against lefties and drops down to 7th or 8th bumping either Ausmus or Lugo up to 2nd.

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3 Robertson
4 Moehler
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LR: Munro
MR: Stone, Lidge, Chen
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Old 04-07-2003, 03:09 AM   #44
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Baltimore

Most Frequent Lineup:

Hairston (2B)
Matthews (CF)
Surhoff (LF)
Conine (1B)
Gibbons (RF)
Batista (3B)
Segui (DH)
Gil (C)
Cruz (SS)

Bench:

Cordova (OF/DH)
Mora (OF)
Fordyce (C)
Morban (SS)

Rotation:

Lopez
Daal
Helling
Ponson
Johnson

Pen:

Hentgen - Long man
Bauer - Long man/Middle
Ryan - Mop up/Middle
Roberts - Middle
Groom - Set up
Ligtenberg - Set up
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The Toronto Blue Jays

The majority of my data is pulled straight from the Jays' lineups over their first six games. How accurate they will be over the course of the season (and once Werth returns from the DL), I'm not entirely sure- but I think they're fairly solid as is. Please excuse any errors, as I was rather tired when I put this together.


Typical Lineup vs. RHP

1. LF S. Stewart
2. RF F. Catalanotto
3. CF V. Wells
4. 1B C. Delgado
5. DH J. Phelps
6. 3B E. Hinske
7. 2B O. Hudson
8. SS C. Woodward
(M. Bordick- 20%-35%)
9. C K. Huckaby (platoon- G. Myers guess 35%, T. Wilson guess 20%)


Typical Lineup vs. LHP

1. LF S. Stewart
2. RF D. Berg
(platoon- T. Wilson guess 30%-60%)
3. CF V. Wells
4. 1B C. Delgado
5. DH J. Phelps
6. 3B E. Hinske
(platoon- D. Berg guess 25%-40% Tosca has said that he will start Berg in place of Hinske "sometimes" vs. LHP)
7. 2B O. Hudson
8. SS C. Woodward
(M. Bordick guess- 20%-35%)
9. C K. Huckaby (platoon- T. Wilson guess 30%-60%)

(Unfortunately, OOTP5 will only let you save the one lineup- it it were otherwise, I'd mention that when Huckaby starts at C, he bats ninth- but when Myers or Wilson start, they bat seventh, Hudson and Woodward shifting down a spot each. Additionally, Berg bats second when playing RF/3B against LHP- but when Wilson starts at RF vs. LHP in tandem, it looks like he'll bat sixth. I haven't seen a game with both Wilson at RF and Hinske at 3B, so I have no idea what would happen in that situation. Regardless, I guess it won't matter much if Wilson was stuck in the two-spot occasionally, though that doesn't make much sense.)



Following is the bench- in the parentheses, the positions they're expected to cover. Starred are their "main" back-up/platoon positions. The others it has been mentioned that they will or can play there this season- but likely only in a pinch or to give a starter the odd day of rest- not routinely as a defensive back-up or platoon. Positions that I believe they have played in the past or are capable of playing are followed by a question mark. Though I have not heard confirmation that they are expected to play there at any time this season.

T. Wilson (RF*, C*, 1B, 3B- I'd guess that he'd do some pinch-hitting for Huckaby vs. LHP) Actually left camp as the fourth outfielder, not a third catcher. Most likely can only play RF, but won't be a problem, as Wells and Stewart will likely always be in CF and LF respectively. Will play some catcher, though. Is also available to play the corners.
M. Bordick (SS*, 2B?, 3B?) Reportedly started at 2B on 04/04 to give Hudson rest. Has not started at 2B since he was with Oakland, so I'm not sure if this will be routine. But as Berg was available to play 2B and didn't, it looks like he will- at least some of the time. Also came in to play 3B on 04/05 when Hinske
was ejected, but I suspect this is only because Berg and Wilson were already in the game, so he's probably only the emergency 3B behind those two and Hinske.

D. Berg (2B*, 3B*, RF*, SS?, 1B?) Will definitely see time at 3B and RF this year. As he's been used frequently in the past at 2B, the same is expected at that position- but with Bordick getting the start on the fourth, his status as the go-to 2B may be up in the air- perhaps he'll split back-up duty with Bordick down the middle. Additionally, I expect that he can be used in a pinch at SS/1B, as he's an all-around IF. Though others will start at those positions before him.
G. Myers (C*- will pinch-hit often late in games for the weaker Huckaby vs. RHP) I doubt he'll see time anywhere other than catcher.


Also:

-Phelps is expected to make some (though not many) starts at 1B this season- I don't know whether he's rated there in this roster set, or not. Though his defense is apparently quite weak there so far, regardless. I'm betting that the idea in the front office is that he'll be the future 1B should Delgado fail to perform and be moved. It also looks as he won't spend any time at C at all (his minor league position), with three other players in front of him.

-Jayson Werth is currently on the DL- I'm not sure how long he's out for (maybe another Jays fan knows?). Once he returns, he should be on the major league roster, likely spending the majority of his time split with Catalanotto (and Wilson/Berg) at RF- though he can also play at first. Similar to Phelps, however, it looks like he gave up catching towards the end of his recent minor league tenure, making room for Kevin Cash.

-As well, reliever Bob File is also on the DL. Though in this case, I have no idea what the situation will be once he recovers. He didn't play well enough to stay with the big-league club last season, though he'll likely get quite a few looks this year.

-One report says that SP Jason Arnold is expected to see the majors at some point this year, but he's definitely not quite ready.



Starting Rotation

1. R. Halladay
2. C. Lidle
3. M. Hendrickson
4. T. Sturtze
5. ? P. Walker?

Spot: P. Walker


(The "announced" rotation ends at four, though I imagine that that's because of the two off-days coming in the first week of the schedule. I really don't know what's going to happen after, and I'm surprised that I haven't heard it discussed in the media. The early-season suspicion was that J. Miller (not to be confused with reliever Trever Miller) would be the fifth man, but as of now, he's not even on the ML roster. Walker will definitely make some starts, but due to his versatility, he's been pegged as more of a spot starter (which he'll definitely be). Though maybe management does intend to go with the four-man, giving Walker the start when needed. I really don't know- again, maybe another Jays fan can chime in- I wasn't really paying attention during spring training, so I don't know the status of J. Miller. Actually- I just took a look. Justin Miller appears to be in Dunedin (A), so it doesn't look like he'll be starting anyime soon. I'd guess that Thurman or Towers are possibilities to be promoted, but I really have no idea- so unless someone who knows the minor league system can correct me, I'd guess that Walker will be the fifth/spot starter.)

Relievers

D. Creek
(I assume he's considered a lefty specialist)
K. Escobar (will duke it out for closer with Politte, but I'm guessing that he'll remain primary closer unless he's moved)
C. Politte (set-up for now, but will get some save opportunities, so I'd rank him as the secondary closer, as well)
D. Linton
A. Lopez
T. Miller
J. Tam
P. Walker
(if not the fifth starter, will likely spend time between spot starter, long relief, and maybe some mop-up jobs)

(With the exception of those I've mentioned, as there are so many new faces, I'm not really sure how the bullpen will be structured. Once again, if anyone wishes/is able to add to my thoughts, please do. Barring that, I suppose I'd let the AI assign positions based upon given ratings.)


I apologize for some of my information being rather sketchy, but I've done my best to outline the team as I see it. All critiques with the intent of making the information more accurate are most welcome. I hope it helps!
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Old 04-07-2003, 05:18 AM   #46
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From what I have heard LaRussa actually plans on batting Renteria in the 2nd spot all year, even when Drew gets back. So, the lineup would look like this.

2B Vina
SS Renteria
CF Edmonds
LF Pujols
3B Rolen
1B Martinez
RF Drew/Marrero
C Matheny

Martinez and Drew/Marrero will probably be flipped a lot depending on prior history vs. the pitcher that is starting that day.
Not to start an argument or anything, but LaRussa wants Renteria batting later in the lineup for RBI opportunities, but you are right, he is batting in the 2nd hole currently.
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Old 04-07-2003, 08:19 AM   #47
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GREAT stuff guys. This definitey helps a lot. Keep it coming!!!

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Old 04-07-2003, 09:43 AM   #48
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Detroit Tigers:

CF Gene Kingsale
SS Omar Infante
RF Bobby Higginson
LF Dmitri Young
DH Dean Palmer
1B Carlos Pena
3B Eric Munson
C Brandon Inge
2B Ramon Santiago

Starting Rotation

1. Mike Maroth
2. Jeremy Bonderman
3. Adam Bernero
4. Nate Cornejo
5. Gary Knotts

Set-Up Man

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Old 04-07-2003, 02:08 PM   #49
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ok, unless I missed something, I still need:

NL: Rockies, Phillies, Marlins, Brewers, Padres
AL: Twins, Indians, Angels

also, any added depth chart or playing time comments anyone wants to add to what they've seen, feel free.

Thanks again guys.

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Old 04-07-2003, 02:25 PM   #50
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Phillies
SS Jimmy Rollins
2b Placido Polanco
RF Bobby Abreu
1b Jim Thome
LF Pat Burrell
3b David Bell
C Mike Lieberthal
CF Marlon Byrd
pitcher slot

Rotation
1 Millwood
2. Wolf
3. Padilla
4. Roa/ Duckworth when healthy
5. Myers but he may have moved up to # 4 with Roa's awful start and his solid start

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Gforce someone left the Twins and Rockies on the TALK SPORTS forum
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Here is a good site for all the batting orders as well as subs and things like that....

http://www.rototimes.com/baseball1/depth.html
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thanks guys. Got the twins and rocks, and that's an excellent site. Will help with the depth charts and such.

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Oh crap..what a doofus I am. I'm reading the thread thinking "excellent work all" and I have the answer at my finger tips...here's another link:

rotoworld

That's the link to Anaheim, but the others can be reached by using the pull down menu on the left below the clubhouses pulldown.

Rototimes might tell you all you need to know, but I know rotoworld is good about updating daily as needed so it's worth listing in case you need a backup or rototimes isn't up to snuff.

Hope it helps. As always, if you need some help, you know where to find me

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Lineups - Yanks

Here are the latest lineups:

Vs LHP ...........................Vs RHP
Soriano 2B .....................Soriano 2B
N. Johnson 1B ................Zeile 3B
Giambi DH ......................Giambi 1B
B Williams CF .................B Williams CF
Matsui LF .......................Matsui LF
Posada C .......................Posada C
Ventura 3B ....................Mondesi RF
Mondesi RF ....................Trammell DH
Almonte SS ....................Almonte SS


Rotation
Clemens
Pettitte
Mussina
Wells
Weaver

Stopper 1 Acevedo
Stopper 2 Osuna

Setup Hammond

Bullpen
Hitchcock
J. Anderson
Contreras

Bench
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Latham
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I forgot to mention it earlier, but Hank Blalock will sit against lefties most of the season due to his subpar performance against them for the Rangers. Those should be the games you see Teixeira at 3B instead of DH. Blalock will occassionally play 2B against righties as well to give Young an off-day.

Jermaine Clark is playing a super utility role this season. 1B & C seem to be about the only 2 he won't play at all. Don't think he'll do RF either, don't remember him with any experience out there.
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The Toronto Blue Jays Follow-up

That's a pretty great site- at least from what I saw. I'm not sure how accurate some of their speculation is, though.

But what I did learn is that Justin Miller will be the Jays' fifth starter (expected April 12th). So he can be stuck there with some certainty. The fact that I found him in single-A threw me a little, but apparently he's been having some shoulder trouble.

Additionally, I didn't realize that OOTP5 had only one closer role- so unlike what I mentioned in regard to Cliff Politte, I guess he should just be placed in the set-up role. Tam is also a good bet for the other set-up role, the other relievers all being MR's. Walker would then be the spot starter/mop-up guy, and maybe an MR as well, if there's room.
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Oh crap..what a doofus I am. I'm reading the thread thinking "excellent work all" and I have the answer at my finger tips...here's another link:

rotoworld

That's the link to Anaheim, but the others can be reached by using the pull down menu on the left below the clubhouses pulldown.

Rototimes might tell you all you need to know, but I know rotoworld is good about updating daily as needed so it's worth listing in case you need a backup or rototimes isn't up to snuff.

Hope it helps. As always, if you need some help, you know where to find me

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Rotoworld rules, but that's beside the point.

The reason he's asking for lineups and stuff from the fans are every site he went to has different answers.
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Some people tried to figure out the sox... i posted in "Talk Sports"

Boston Red Sox

Lineup:

CF Damon
2B Walker
SS Garciaparra
LF Ramirez
1B Millar
3B Hillenbrand
DH Giambi
RF Nixon
C Varitek

1B-DH David Ortiz will grab a start a week pushing Giambi out
3B Bill Mueller will start about half the games, resting Walker, Millar, and Hillenbrand once a week playing third or second. If he plays third, Hillenbrand can play first.
IF-OF Damian Jackson rarely plays
C Doug Mirabelli will rest Varitek once in six or seven games

Rotation:

RHP Martinez
RHP Wakefield (yes, despite the numbers, for accuracy the soft throwing Wake is thrown after Pedro -- presumably only if facing the same team, but that is as of yet unknown)
RHP Lowe
LHP Fossum (only ahead of Burkett because he's a lefty IMO)
RHP Burkett

Bullpen:

OK since the Red Sox have such a f***ed up bullpen, I'll just desribe the roles, suggest an OOTP position, and you can work your roster voodoo.

LHP Embree is a lefty specialist who will never pitch before the seventh, but who will close if need be (prescription: first closer, second setup)

RHP Mendoza will work mainly in long relief (prescription: first middle revliever)

RHP Bob Howry is pretty good, but can't pitch two days in a row and won't be used in pressure situations (prescription: last middle reliever, second mopup)

RHP Mike Timlin will be used to close occasionally as well but is unfortunately mired in a setup role (prescription: first setup)

RHP Chad Fox is badly misplaced as a closer right now, but we're simulating real life (prescription: second closer)

RHP Brandon Lyon is a long reliever (prescription: second middle reliever, third mopup)

RHP Steve Woodard is the same as Lyon, but not as trustworthy (prescription: second mopup)
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Rotoworld rules, but that's beside the point.

The reason he's asking for lineups and stuff from the fans are every site he went to has different answers.
Oh..right, sorry then.

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