Update on the patch/update

Markus Heinsohn · 04-07-2003, 09:29 AM

Sorry guys that this is taking so long, but 'real life' got in the way

I have already fixed all of the reported bugs, and I am currently recoding parts of the AI engine for trading and roster management.

Some other new things:

- Contract demands based more on stats than on ratings
- Same with arbitration
- Financial coefficient
- Some new reports

I will definitely have it released before Tuesday next week (I go on a one-week vacation on that day)! So, stay tuned!

autarkis33 · 04-07-2003, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
Some other new things:

- Contract demands based more on stats than on ratings
- Same with arbitration
- Financial coefficient
- Some new reports

That's hot. No, I mean it.

statfreak · 04-07-2003, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn

- Contract demands based more on stats than on ratings
- Same with arbitration
- Financial coefficient

These items are definitely worth the wait.

Thanks for the update!!

x94blair3 · 04-07-2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
Sorry guys that this is taking so long, but 'real life' got in the way

Sorry to hear about this..doesn't sound good.

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
I have already fixed all of the reported bugs, and I am currently recoding parts of the AI engine for trading and roster management.

Regardless of everyone's feelings about this, noone would say it's "perfect" so improvement is welcomed even if I don't think it's as bad as some say.

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
Some other new things:

- Contract demands based more on stats than on ratings
- Same with arbitration

Sweet! Something I suggested (with others) met with Markus "approval"

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
- Financial coefficient

I don't use this feature but I can see a lot of people wetting themselves.

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
- Some new reports

I don't know exactly what this means, but if you're looking for reports feedback I would like to see some organization brought to the reports. Having the search players under the advanced tab of league setup makes no sense. The only rational I can think of is that you couldn't find anywhere else to squeeze the button. Interface could definately use some outside input (and no, I'm not suggested I'm worthy of the task).

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
I will definitely have it released before Tuesday next week (I go on a one-week vacation on that day)! So, stay tuned!

Looking forward to it!

-Nick

Dargone · 04-07-2003, 10:30 AM

Looking forward to it as well

Gastric ReFlux · 04-07-2003, 10:33 AM

I thought OOTP5 was real life.

But always take care of what needs to be taken care of. I look forward to the update when it's ready in good time.

sporr · 04-07-2003, 10:38 AM

It's good to see that Markus has his priorities straight. In the end, it's still only a game.

Thanks for your hard work and dedication though Markus!

Treches · 04-07-2003, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by sporr
It's good to see that Markus has his priorities straight. In the end, it's still only a game.

It's more than only a game for him, buddy, it's what he does for a living.

Raven · 04-07-2003, 11:06 AM

Any progress on the Fan Interest issues?

Steve Kuffrey · 04-07-2003, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
Sorry guys that this is taking so long, but 'real life' got in the way

I have already fixed all of the reported bugs......

I would believe so since he made this statement. But the testers do not have it yet so the results are yet to be seen.

markprior22 · 04-07-2003, 11:16 AM

thanks for the update

bauermj · 04-07-2003, 11:27 AM

what exactly is "financial coeffecients" with regard to ootp5?

TwinMonster · 04-07-2003, 11:28 AM

Looking forward to those financial coefficients Markus!

Nel · 04-07-2003, 11:31 AM

Hope the bug fixes will stop the crashes...but other than that the patch sounds sweet!

sporr · 04-07-2003, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by bauermj
what exactly is "financial coeffecients" with regard to ootp5?

It would edit down contracts league-wide by a certain factor so that historical leagues can have contract amounts that are more realistic.

clarnzz · 04-07-2003, 11:36 AM

Im excited about everything but the new contract demands based on stats. I'd hate to see this turn into stars that arer performing poorly be in higher demand than ones who are performing very well because their contract will be cheap.

playball335 · 04-07-2003, 11:37 AM

By Markus' statement, would it be safe to "assume" that the disappearing player(s) bug has been vanquished?

Looking forward to the update as well, have been holding off for quite some time for it.

Thanks again, not enough can be said about the OOTP team's customer service. It is top notch.

clarnzz · 04-07-2003, 11:43 AM

Just to throw in one more thing. I also have major concerns on how this new stat based contract demands will affect players who play their home games in certain parks.

Does this mean batter playing in Coors will want more money and hitters playing in Comerica will want less money just because of the park they play in?

Alan T · 04-07-2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Raven
Any progress on the Fan Interest issues?

I am interested in the answer to this as well..

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Originally posted by clarnzz
Just to throw in one more thing. I also have major concerns on how this new stat based contract demands will affect players who play their home games in certain parks.

Does this mean batter playing in Coors will want more money and hitters playing in Comerica will want less money just because of the park they play in?

This actually happens in the MLB sometimes though.. Astacio was a bargain going to the mets due to his poor seasons in Coors, Juan Gonzalez had to settle for a one year "proving himself" deal after his poor season in Comerica, Dante Bichette extended his miserable playing career due to his Coors field's bloated stats...

Don't get me wrong however, you don't want the AI to give a flash in the pan or one year wonder a huge contract for no reason, but I do like the idea that if a player has a poor season in his free agency year, he shouldnt get superstar money. A nice balance between statistical output from the player (based over the past year and past several years to avoid the one year wonders), mixed in with player potential (younger players who should be expected to contribute more) is good for the contract extentions/negotiations, etc.

As it is currently, it is way too one sided, and I am glad it is getting adjusted.

autarkis33 · 04-07-2003, 11:54 AM

Technically that is the way that it works though. Rockies hitters that do well have often gone to sign too large of contracts when they leave Colorado (Castilla, Bichette) and the same with some pitchers (Chan ho Park anyone?).

I have been dying for the game to base salaries off of stats. I hate seeing AI teams gobble up those 8-8-8 guys that hit .240 with 15 homers every season. If a player performs well, then he gets money. If not, then he doesn't, simple as that.

If you were a ML GM, would you pay $15 mil to a guy that should hit .300/45/120, but regularly hits .250/20/80?

04-07-2003, 09:29 AM	#1
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	Update on the patch/update Sorry guys that this is taking so long, but 'real life' got in the way I have already fixed all of the reported bugs, and I am currently recoding parts of the AI engine for trading and roster management. Some other new things: - Contract demands based more on stats than on ratings - Same with arbitration - Financial coefficient - Some new reports I will definitely have it released before Tuesday next week (I go on a one-week vacation on that day)! So, stay tuned!

04-07-2003, 10:30 AM	#5
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Looking forward to it as well __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

04-07-2003, 11:27 AM	#12
bauermj Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 179	what exactly is "financial coeffecients" with regard to ootp5? __________________ Commissioner / Cubs Owner Rounding-Third Baseball League (R3BL) www.rounding-third.com Indianapolis Outlaws PFBL Houston Astros Massena

04-07-2003, 11:54 AM	#20
autarkis33 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 247	Technically that is the way that it works though. Rockies hitters that do well have often gone to sign too large of contracts when they leave Colorado (Castilla, Bichette) and the same with some pitchers (Chan ho Park anyone?). I have been dying for the game to base salaries off of stats. I hate seeing AI teams gobble up those 8-8-8 guys that hit .240 with 15 homers every season. If a player performs well, then he gets money. If not, then he doesn't, simple as that. If you were a ML GM, would you pay $15 mil to a guy that should hit .300/45/120, but regularly hits .250/20/80? __________________ "I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell" Commissioner of the <A HREF="http://www.bpla-ootp.com">BPLA</A> GM of the Iowa Crop Circles in <A HREF="http://www.dpbl.net/potd">POTD</A> Manager of the Lennongrad Coleopteras in <A HREF="http://beta.simleagues.com">Beta Baseball</A> Only HOF Leftfielder in LBL - 2nd career AVG, 3B's and SB's - 3rd in Hits and HR's

04-07-2003, 10:33 AM	#6
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	I thought OOTP5 was real life. But always take care of what needs to be taken care of. I look forward to the update when it's ready in good time.

04-07-2003, 10:38 AM	#7
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	It's good to see that Markus has his priorities straight. In the end, it's still only a game. Thanks for your hard work and dedication though Markus!

04-07-2003, 11:06 AM	#9
Raven Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 94	Any progress on the Fan Interest issues?

04-07-2003, 11:16 AM	#11
markprior22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 1,245	thanks for the update

04-07-2003, 11:28 AM	#13
TwinMonster Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnepolis Posts: 325	Looking forward to those financial coefficients Markus!

04-07-2003, 11:31 AM	#14
Nel Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 67	Hope the bug fixes will stop the crashes...but other than that the patch sounds sweet!

04-07-2003, 11:36 AM	#16
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	Im excited about everything but the new contract demands based on stats. I'd hate to see this turn into stars that arer performing poorly be in higher demand than ones who are performing very well because their contract will be cheap.

04-07-2003, 11:37 AM	#17
playball335 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Georgetown, MA Posts: 287	By Markus' statement, would it be safe to "assume" that the disappearing player(s) bug has been vanquished? Looking forward to the update as well, have been holding off for quite some time for it. Thanks again, not enough can be said about the OOTP team's customer service. It is top notch.

04-07-2003, 11:43 AM	#18
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	Just to throw in one more thing. I also have major concerns on how this new stat based contract demands will affect players who play their home games in certain parks. Does this mean batter playing in Coors will want more money and hitters playing in Comerica will want less money just because of the park they play in?