1st Uniform Attempts

mcarlisle21 · 07-13-2008, 12:05 AM

Ok, using some of the templates on here, I have created my first two uniforms for my HS feeder league. Not great, but I don't think they are terrible. Feedback would be greatly appreciated from some of the experts on here...

Ambermonk · 07-13-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mcarlisle21

Ok, using some of the templates on here, I have created my first two uniforms for my HS feeder league. Not great, but I don't think they are terrible. Feedback would be greatly appreciated from some of the experts on here...

Congratulations. Welcome to the uniform designers' club. Your designs are a good portent for the future. Your shading is better than many that I have seen posted. I see that you've been able to apply both text & logos to the uniforms. These are key elements for future designs.

What Paint program and templates are your using? Did you do these designs on a single layer or multiple layers? Knowing this information will make helping you easier. Lets see if I can offer some suggestions...

1. Be careful when using black & white in uniforms. Computer colors are pure pixels but the real world doesn't really look that way. You may be able to improve your future efforts by using a very pale off-white for the main color. I think you will see that the eye will "see" this as white - but it will look better. The same goes for black. All cloth reflect some light so you would do well to use a very dark gray for the black. Again - the eye will read this dark gray as black.

2. If your paint program allows you to put in visual "noise," I suggest that you use it. Used in moderation, visual noise will add "texture" to the cloth.

3. There are some better shading templates out there that would give your designs a more natural look. You can find them posted in earlier forums. If you use one of the ones that Deft or I use, this will improve the appearance of the tee-shirt neckline on your uniforms as well (thank you Deft).

4. You might try a little less color saturation in the future. The Indians design is especially intense.

5. Your future designs might have a more pleasing appearance if you use a little more variety in your color schemes (check out Donjamoni's recent post) This may be difficult if your using just 1 layer (but easy if you're using multiple layers).

6. Regarding the Indians text, in future efforts you might want to make the text larger and located a little lower. When I started doing uniforms, I went to OOTP preferences and set the zoom level to always be Out. This will show off your uniforms to best effect and add consistency to their appearance in the game (i.e., with zoom set to out you can safely lower the text on your uniforms).

7. The structures in your backgrounds are awfully dark. You might want to download some lighter & more colorful ones. I have even gone so far as to lighten some of mine (or change the sky) to improve the appearance. If the background is slightly light, the viewer's eye will automatically focus on the uniform in the foreground.

8. When posting uniforms, they would be easier to view if you put a little space between them.

Well, this is probably enough for you to absorb for the moment. Better suggestions can be offered once we know the particulars of your graphics package. Again, you're off to a very good start - better than many. Keep doing designs and you will be amazed at how quickly you will improve. If you can, check out some of the previous uniform posts for additional ideas. Nice effort!

mcarlisle21 · 07-13-2008, 01:42 AM

Some very good (and helpful) points there. Thanks. I am using Paint.net for my uniforms. I actually DL'ed Deft's template and then some of yours I believe and I am using multiple layers. I read in an earlier post (forgot from whom) that the person was saving Deft's layers seperately and the adding layers, etc., to a blank template which is what I am doing.

I played around a little with noise and I did notice a difference. As for the Indians uniform, I didn't really love it, but I still wanted to keep it just so I could see if I am getting better down the road or not.

I will admit also that the black on that uniform looks pretty fake.

I am actually re-creating 30 high school teams for each of my owner's Alma Maters in my new OOTP9 league and these first two just happened to be similar in color.

Again, thanks a lot for the pointers and I will post some more soon. I did re-design the Indians uniform and made one new one as well. I am pasting them all together below.

Saranac Chiefs

Southern Choctaw Indians

Confederation Cardinals

Ambermonk · 07-13-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mcarlisle21

Some very good (and helpful) points there. Thanks. I am using Paint.net for my uniforms. I actually DL'ed Deft's template and then some of yours I believe and I am using multiple layers. I read in an earlier post (forgot from whom) that the person was saving Deft's layers seperately and the adding layers, etc., to a blank template which is what I am doing.

I played around a little with noise and I did notice a difference. As for the Indians uniform, I didn't really love it, but I still wanted to keep it just so I could see if I am getting better down the road or not.

I will admit also that the black on that uniform looks pretty fake.

I am actually re-creating 30 high school teams for each of my owner's Alma Maters in my new OOTP9 league and these first two just happened to be similar in color.

Again, thanks a lot for the pointers and I will post some more soon. I did re-design the Indians uniform and made one new one as well. I am pasting them all together below.

Saranac Chiefs

Southern Choctaw Indians

Confederation Cardinals

The shading on your Cardinals uniform is more restrained - and looks better than the other two. Good job.

Go to the following link and check out my post# 20 at the bottom of page 1. The first link listed there is to SimCentral where you can download most of my uniform templates and you can also download a sample Paint.net file of a uniform design to see how all the layers are used.

The second link will steer you to a large number of links where I deal with uniform design. Hopefully this will prove useful to you.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ck-needed.html

Good luck in your future efforts. If you have any additional questions (or designs) please post them.

donjamoni · 07-13-2008, 09:08 PM

That Cardinal's uni, looks real good, others are nice too, but the Cardinal's is definately my favorite. Great job!

cnield · 07-13-2008, 09:30 PM

Out of curiousity, what are you going to do for team colors for all these teams. Everyone seems to be red and white

mcarlisle21 · 07-13-2008, 11:54 PM

Yeah, it just so happened that the first three HS from guys in my league all had same colors.

mcarlisle21 · 07-14-2008, 07:05 PM

Ok, these are my latest efforts. I have 12 teams done for my HS feeder league.

This is what I have done so far...

Case Cardinals

Confederation Cardinals

Fargo South Bruins

Hamilton Township Rangers

Haverling Central Bulldogs

Independence 76ers

Kings Knights

Mesa Jackrabbits

Oak Park Redskins

Saranac Chiefs

Southern Choctaw Indians

St. Ignatius Falcons

Comments? Suggestions?

donjamoni · 07-14-2008, 09:04 PM

Those are some good looking jerseys. The Oak Park looks a little low and off to the left for my eye though.

mcarlisle21 · 07-14-2008, 09:14 PM

Thanks and now that you mention it, it does look a little low.

Raidergoo · 07-14-2008, 10:34 PM

What's the deal with Haverling and Bath on their uniform?

mcarlisle21 · 07-15-2008, 12:12 AM

One of my owners went to that HS. It was actually named Bath Haverling Central High School.

mcarlisle21 · 07-15-2008, 04:49 PM

A couple of new ones and a couple of re-designed ones...

Case Cardinals

Mt. Greylock Mounties

Nanuet Golden Knights

Oak Park Redskins

mcarlisle21 · 07-15-2008, 04:55 PM

And here they are all together. Can you tell which ones were my first ever tries and which ones were more recent? Hopefully...

donjamoni · 07-15-2008, 07:44 PM

Why did you take the cardinal from under the Case Cardinals logo in the center of the shirt? I thought that looked really nice.

mcarlisle21 · 07-15-2008, 08:03 PM

The owner that belonged to that HS wanted to remove it

Antonin · 07-15-2008, 08:30 PM

Those are great uniforms! Maybe you could post some of the templates here.

mcarlisle21 · 07-15-2008, 08:59 PM

I wouldn't mind. Any particular ones?

Antonin · 07-15-2008, 11:30 PM

Oak Park, Bruins, Bath, Nanuet, Falons and Knights are my favorites.

I really need to learn how to create jerseys, so I can post some here and give something back to the community. It would be wonderful to have one's "work" incorporated into somebody's game!

There are so many great jerseys being made and posted here and elsewhere. They really make an already amazing game come alive.

Thank you!

mcarlisle21 · 07-15-2008, 11:43 PM

Ask and you shall recieve...

Uniform Files

07-13-2008, 12:05 AM	#1
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	1st Uniform Attempts Ok, using some of the templates on here, I have created my first two uniforms for my HS feeder league. Not great, but I don't think they are terrible. Feedback would be greatly appreciated from some of the experts on here...

07-15-2008, 08:30 PM	#17
Antonin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,536	Those are great uniforms! Maybe you could post some of the templates here. __________________ "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" - Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), San Francisco, 14 January 1978

07-15-2008, 11:30 PM	#19
Antonin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,536	Oak Park, Bruins, Bath, Nanuet, Falons and Knights are my favorites. I really need to learn how to create jerseys, so I can post some here and give something back to the community. It would be wonderful to have one's "work" incorporated into somebody's game! There are so many great jerseys being made and posted here and elsewhere. They really make an already amazing game come alive. Thank you! __________________ "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" - Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), San Francisco, 14 January 1978

07-13-2008, 01:42 AM	#3
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	Some very good (and helpful) points there. Thanks. I am using Paint.net for my uniforms. I actually DL'ed Deft's template and then some of yours I believe and I am using multiple layers. I read in an earlier post (forgot from whom) that the person was saving Deft's layers seperately and the adding layers, etc., to a blank template which is what I am doing. I played around a little with noise and I did notice a difference. As for the Indians uniform, I didn't really love it, but I still wanted to keep it just so I could see if I am getting better down the road or not. I will admit also that the black on that uniform looks pretty fake. I am actually re-creating 30 high school teams for each of my owner's Alma Maters in my new OOTP9 league and these first two just happened to be similar in color. Again, thanks a lot for the pointers and I will post some more soon. I did re-design the Indians uniform and made one new one as well. I am pasting them all together below. Saranac Chiefs Southern Choctaw Indians Confederation Cardinals

07-13-2008, 09:08 PM	#5
donjamoni Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fayetteville, N.C. Posts: 63	That Cardinal's uni, looks real good, others are nice too, but the Cardinal's is definately my favorite. Great job!

07-13-2008, 09:30 PM	#6
cnield Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 310	Out of curiousity, what are you going to do for team colors for all these teams. Everyone seems to be red and white

07-13-2008, 11:54 PM	#7
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	Yeah, it just so happened that the first three HS from guys in my league all had same colors.

07-14-2008, 07:05 PM	#8
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	Ok, these are my latest efforts. I have 12 teams done for my HS feeder league. This is what I have done so far... Case Cardinals Confederation Cardinals Fargo South Bruins Hamilton Township Rangers Haverling Central Bulldogs Independence 76ers Kings Knights Mesa Jackrabbits Oak Park Redskins Saranac Chiefs Southern Choctaw Indians St. Ignatius Falcons Comments? Suggestions?

07-14-2008, 09:04 PM	#9
donjamoni Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fayetteville, N.C. Posts: 63	Those are some good looking jerseys. The Oak Park looks a little low and off to the left for my eye though.

07-14-2008, 09:14 PM	#10
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	Thanks and now that you mention it, it does look a little low.

07-14-2008, 10:34 PM	#11
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	What's the deal with Haverling and Bath on their uniform?

07-15-2008, 12:12 AM	#12
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	One of my owners went to that HS. It was actually named Bath Haverling Central High School.

07-15-2008, 04:49 PM	#13
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	A couple of new ones and a couple of re-designed ones... Case Cardinals Mt. Greylock Mounties Nanuet Golden Knights Oak Park Redskins

07-15-2008, 04:55 PM	#14
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	And here they are all together. Can you tell which ones were my first ever tries and which ones were more recent? Hopefully...

07-15-2008, 07:44 PM	#15
donjamoni Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fayetteville, N.C. Posts: 63	Why did you take the cardinal from under the Case Cardinals logo in the center of the shirt? I thought that looked really nice.

07-15-2008, 08:03 PM	#16
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	The owner that belonged to that HS wanted to remove it

07-15-2008, 08:59 PM	#18
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	I wouldn't mind. Any particular ones?

07-15-2008, 11:43 PM	#20
mcarlisle21 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	Ask and you shall recieve... Uniform Files