MLB Rosters: What are the problems?

[southside_hitmen]

Originally Posted by Erich Ingram

Ok, I know that it is appreciated all of the comments here. One thing I will say though is that with regard to the primary position that a player is listed at the game is going to decide that when the AI is allowed to make the moves. So guys like CJ Wilson as Closer, yes I know he is and you know he is but the game doesn't realize that CJ Wilson is the closer, as it will decide where he will go.

So please don't take this as me making negative commentary because it is anything but that, I am just making the point so that people know that it just isn't that easy when the AI is allowed to make decisions.

My bad on that Erich, I did not know that. I thought that roster moves were turned off at first, that's why I posted this. I do think that if they play the position though they should at least have a rating there.

In the same way as you, I am not being negative at all with the comments on the players. Just want to make the roster as good as possible. Great job on them and keep it up! Putting this roster together must have been fun, but also a pain in the you know what. Definetly not trying to knock it at all.

[Erich Ingram]

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

My bad on that Erich, I did not know that. I thought that roster moves were turned off at first, that's why I posted this. I do think that if they play the position though they should at least have a rating there.

In the same way as you, I am not being negative at all with the comments on the players. Just want to make the roster as good as possible. Great job on them and keep it up! Putting this roster together must have been fun, but also a pain in the you know what. Definetly not trying to knock it at all.

Well the roster moves are turned off during the editing process, but Markus wants them on when the roster is shipped out with the game. And once someone turns them on the game will change it. I guess the key would be how much experience a player should have at a position when listing them in this forum.

My comment really centered around closers and such but if a player has multiple position capability the AI will change them. So I guess it is not a bad thing to put it in here, but just understand that sometimes that was the original set up and the big bad AI changed it .

The checking you are doing and information your are providing is a very helpful thing. I know that many of the players that were missing is due to them being in Extended Spring Training, thus not hitting OD rosters. Please keep putting more information out there because it is helpful for Steve to have.

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

My bad on that Erich, I did not know that. I thought that roster moves were turned off at first, that's why I posted this. I do think that if they play the position though they should at least have a rating there.

In the same way as you, I am not being negative at all with the comments on the players. Just want to make the roster as good as possible. Great job on them and keep it up! Putting this roster together must have been fun, but also a pain in the you know what. Definitely not trying to knock it at all.

Your attention to detail is commendable. Keep it up.

[TwinMonster]

Matt Moses has been moved to the outfield along with David Winfree. Glenn Williams is no longer with the Twins. Minor League Baseball: Home has the lion's share of that information along with Untitled. milb.com also lists boxscores where you can double check what positions players are at. The hope in moving Winfree and Moses to the outfield was that it would allow them to concentrate more on their hitting (which based on current stats has not worked as planned.) Also, neither player was doing well at 3B fielding-wise.

Originally Posted by MorseMoose

• When you start a new 2008 league, you get a blank news message.

Some things I notice in the Twins.
• Delmon Young has no LF rating (yes, he never played it before this year...another reason to dislike ratings for certain positions)
• Phil Humber in AAA is listed as a MR and has low endurance
• Juan Rincon is listed as a CL in AAA. He started the year as a MR in the majors.
• Glen Perkins is on the major league roster...he started the year in AAA.
• Matt Moses is listed as a LFer though he is a 3B.
• David Winfree is listed as a RFer though he only played 1B/3B
• Glenn Williams is listed as retired, though he is playing in AAA for the Twins.

[MorseMoose]

Originally Posted by TwinMonster

Matt Moses has been moved to the outfield along with David Winfree. Glenn Williams is no longer with the Twins. Minor League Baseball: Home has the lion's share of that information along with Untitled. milb.com also lists boxscores where you can double check what positions players are at. The hope in moving Winfree and Moses to the outfield was that it would allow them to concentrate more on their hitting (which based on current stats has not worked as planned.) Also, neither player was doing well at 3B fielding-wise.

Thanks and my bad. I was looking at old info. (p.s. Minneapolis is spelled wrong in your location )

[Bagpipes5]

A few things with the Astros:

Paul Estrada is on the team's 40 man roster but has been missing from the game so far. He is at AAA Round Rock IRL

The ratings seem pretty on except for one worry. I am a hands-off, GM-only style player. I let my managers at every level pick my lineups/depth chart/rotation (what am I paying them for right?). Well my worry was that my manager always picks a combo of Loretta/Berkman over Berkman/Lee at 1B/LF. Loretta is rated 53/26/44, Berkman 66/87/68, and Lee 58/67/40. Why is that? As a matter of fact the AI benches Lee against both lefties and righties even though he is one of the best rated hitters on the team. I have run into the same problem at other positions as well with Geoff Blum being picked to start over Kaz Matsui at 2B even though Matsui has better ratings, both actual and potential. Against lefties, the AI picks Jose Cruz Jr (39/38/62) to start in left field over Lee. Any help or remedy for this is appreciated.

[t-bone shuffle]

Originally Posted by Bagpipes5

A few things with the Astros:

Paul Estrada is on the team's 40 man roster but has been missing from the game so far. He is at AAA Round Rock IRL.

Check to see if he's possibly on the DL. IRL, he's been injured since Spring Training and I don't believe he's thrown a live pitch all season long. He is listed on the club's 40 man and the Round Rock roster, but he's not playing. It's possible the roster maker got it right and he's either DL'd or DFA'd.

[William Satterwhite]

Originally Posted by Bagpipes5

A few things with the Astros:

Paul Estrada is on the team's 40 man roster but has been missing from the game so far. He is at AAA Round Rock IRL

The ratings seem pretty on except for one worry. I am a hands-off, GM-only style player. I let my managers at every level pick my lineups/depth chart/rotation (what am I paying them for right?). Well my worry was that my manager always picks a combo of Loretta/Berkman over Berkman/Lee at 1B/LF. Loretta is rated 53/26/44, Berkman 66/87/68, and Lee 58/67/40. Why is that? As a matter of fact the AI benches Lee against both lefties and righties even though he is one of the best rated hitters on the team. I have run into the same problem at other positions as well with Geoff Blum being picked to start over Kaz Matsui at 2B even though Matsui has better ratings, both actual and potential. Against lefties, the AI picks Jose Cruz Jr (39/38/62) to start in left field over Lee. Any help or remedy for this is appreciated.

That's more of a quirk with the AI, not the rosters themselves. One thing that might work (although it might not be realistic) is to take away Loretta's 1B rating so Houston has no choice but to play Berkman there. There's also a similar problem with the Mets outfield, the AI likes to play Ryan Church in center while Endy Chavez plays left and Pagan so I removed Church's CF rating altogether. Again, it might not be totally realistic but it should produce a more realistic result.

[Dolphingod77]

First, let me say I am a complete OOTP noob but am extremely excited by this game and am floored by the obvious effort made by the Devs.

The problem I am having has to do with the Dodgers Minor League teams. For some reason the Las Vegas 51's only have 5 players on their roster:

Greg Jones
Mike Koplove
Justin Orenduff
Dwayne Pollock
Yhency Brazoban

These are all relief pitchers so I obviously can't field a team with that

Anyway, many of the prospects that should be on the AAA team are on the lower level teams and I don't have a problem moving them up. The problem I have is if I do that then the lower level teams won't have any players on them. I understand it is probably impossible to get all of the minor league players in an organization on their appropriate teams, just wondering if anybody has a suggestion as to how to fix this problem or if i just need to move them up and then fill out my minors with free agents?

(don't really want to do this cause it kinda messes with the realism but will if thats the only option)

Anyway, thanks for the help and suggestions.

[deadringer]

Originally Posted by Bagpipes5

A few things with the Astros:

Paul Estrada is on the team's 40 man roster but has been missing from the game so far. He is at AAA Round Rock IRL

The ratings seem pretty on except for one worry. I am a hands-off, GM-only style player. I let my managers at every level pick my lineups/depth chart/rotation (what am I paying them for right?). Well my worry was that my manager always picks a combo of Loretta/Berkman over Berkman/Lee at 1B/LF. Loretta is rated 53/26/44, Berkman 66/87/68, and Lee 58/67/40. Why is that? As a matter of fact the AI benches Lee against both lefties and righties even though he is one of the best rated hitters on the team. I have run into the same problem at other positions as well with Geoff Blum being picked to start over Kaz Matsui at 2B even though Matsui has better ratings, both actual and potential. Against lefties, the AI picks Jose Cruz Jr (39/38/62) to start in left field over Lee. Any help or remedy for this is appreciated.

This sounds a lot like the Beltran bug that happens on the Mets. Markus said he found and fixed it.

[Bagpipes5]

Originally Posted by t-bone shuffle

Check to see if he's possibly on the DL. IRL, he's been injured since Spring Training and I don't believe he's thrown a live pitch all season long. He is listed on the club's 40 man and the Round Rock roster, but he's not playing. It's possible the roster maker got it right and he's either DL'd or DFA'd.

Yeah he's been DL'd since the beginning of the season. Then again so has Felipe Paulino and Paulino is in the set.

[Bagpipes5]

Originally Posted by deadringer

This sounds a lot like the Beltran bug that happens on the Mets. Markus said he found and fixed it.

That's funny I was just going to post in that thread about my findings with Houston. So Markus is fixing it for the mid-July patch then? Great. I can't wait until it's fixed.

[KySteveH]

Originally Posted by KySteveH

Major league numbers were not bad. Overall, the NL had an overall BA at .264, about 4 points lower than normal. OBP, SLG, HR were similarly down, but only by a small amount. Pitching numbers were a litlle high, as you might expect based on the offensive numbers. (Of course, by high, I mean low ERA, low WHIP, etc.)

Stolen bases were high. The NL had 1894 stolen bases for the year, over the 16 teams.

I found the minor league numbers to be way off though.

Over the 4 full-season leagues, overall BA was .225 - .237. That seems low. SLG, OBP, were similarly depressed. As you can imaging, picthing numbers were equally skewed.

So, is any of this being addressed, or should I just start creating my own set like every year...I really don't care if some dude is on the wrong roster level, but having minor players who could hit the ball out of the infield occasionally might be nice.

[MorseMoose]

Originally Posted by MorseMoose

• Juan Rincon is listed as a CL in AAA. He started the year as a MR in the majors.

Just wanted to mention this again. Rincon was in the majors while Brian Buscher was in AAA.

[MorseMoose]

Liriano started in AAA also. Nick Blackburn was in the majors at the start of the year.