Are 'modified' historical leagues possible?

Curtis · 06-23-2008, 05:18 PM

As distinct from 'fantasy' historical, what I would like to try is starting a league in 1962 using the actual players on the actual teams, and having incoming rookies go to their historical clubs.

However, I would then like to merge the two leagues into one 20 team league (no subleagues or divisions) and move some franchises around so that I'm covering the twenty largest population agglomerations. (I already know where they're going, thanks.) I tried setting up a 1962 historical last night, and no changes were allowed to either league structure or schedule. (I'd need a 152 game schedule, with each team playing each other four games at home and four away, and three rounds of playoffs.)

Assuming this is possible, how do I change stadiums* (and keep them from changing historically), and prevent expansion? And what happens to incoming rookies when the team they're coming into doesn't exist? By that I mean, since the Montreal Expos will never come into existance, will their rookies dump onto the free agent market? Is there a way to funnel them into a rookie draft?

Finally, can any of this work with the database that assigns players to their first professional club, rather than their first MLB club?

I know that's a lot to ask, but I'd really rather do this with historical players than with fictionals. Thank you.

* = Is there a resource for OotPB park equivalent numbers for historical parks? I want a low-offense league, so I'm planning to use 1968 stat modifiers, but I'd also like each team to play in the most pitcher-friendly park they played in historically.

Bluenoser · 06-23-2008, 05:26 PM

Changing League Structure can only be done during the Pre Season.

You can edit stadiums from each teams home page. There's a tab along the top for "Options Ballpark". You have to be in Commish mode to edit them.

Incoming rookies will go into the draft if you have one enabled. Also ensure you disable "assign players to their original team"

Curtis · 06-23-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Changing League Structure can only be done during the Pre Season.

I'm having a problem with the scheduler (trying to work it out with LGO). Right now the league refuses to start, crashing the game. Assuming we get the schedule problem fixed, how can I then change the league structure? The schedule for the first season will already be set in stone, won't it?

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Originally Posted by BruceM

You can edit stadiums from each teams home page. There's a tab along the top for "Options Ballpark". You have to be in Commish mode to edit them.

Thank you. I know how to edit ballparks. I don't know where to find the values to change them to. Is there a resource for OotPB ballpark equivalencies?

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Incoming rookies will go into the draft if you have one enabled. Also ensure you disable "assign players to their original team"

Okay, but that means I'll have to assign the players manually to their proper teams. Is there a resource that will tell me what organization they started with? (Since I'll have to assign them manually, I can bypass their first MLB club and put them on the team they entered the minors with, which solves one of my problems, though at a cost of much inputting labor.)

Also, this allows me to add fictional players to round out some levels of minors. I saw where ghost players were enabled, but I didn't see a place to prevent fictional players from being promoted to the majors. Where would that be?

BeachBum · 06-27-2008, 11:08 AM

Thank you. I know how to edit ballparks. I don't know where to find the values to change them to. Is there a resource for OotPB ballpark equivalencies?

Gambo had a spread website that had a spreadsheet with this info and pictures of ballparks that you could use but I see the domain has expired and is no longer available.

The era_ballparks file in the database folder of OOTP9 also has the factors.

HerbD · 06-29-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

Is there a resource that will tell me what organization they started with?

Baseball-Reference.com

Try the ammy draft section here and you can look at each draft round by round. Or if you need a certain player you can search and look at the individual player pages.

Curtis · 06-29-2008, 10:26 PM

BeachBum and HerbD, thank you both for replying. I will try to check those out.

06-23-2008, 05:18 PM	#1
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	Are 'modified' historical leagues possible? As distinct from 'fantasy' historical, what I would like to try is starting a league in 1962 using the actual players on the actual teams, and having incoming rookies go to their historical clubs. However, I would then like to merge the two leagues into one 20 team league (no subleagues or divisions) and move some franchises around so that I'm covering the twenty largest population agglomerations. (I already know where they're going, thanks.) I tried setting up a 1962 historical last night, and no changes were allowed to either league structure or schedule. (I'd need a 152 game schedule, with each team playing each other four games at home and four away, and three rounds of playoffs.) Assuming this is possible, how do I change stadiums* (and keep them from changing historically), and prevent expansion? And what happens to incoming rookies when the team they're coming into doesn't exist? By that I mean, since the Montreal Expos will never come into existance, will their rookies dump onto the free agent market? Is there a way to funnel them into a rookie draft? Finally, can any of this work with the database that assigns players to their first professional club, rather than their first MLB club? I know that's a lot to ask, but I'd really rather do this with historical players than with fictionals. Thank you. * = Is there a resource for OotPB park equivalent numbers for historical parks? I want a low-offense league, so I'm planning to use 1968 stat modifiers, but I'd also like each team to play in the most pitcher-friendly park they played in historically. Last edited by Curtis; 06-23-2008 at 05:19 PM. Reason: misspelled 'Expoes'

06-23-2008, 05:26 PM	#2
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,224	Changing League Structure can only be done during the Pre Season. You can edit stadiums from each teams home page. There's a tab along the top for "Options Ballpark". You have to be in Commish mode to edit them. Incoming rookies will go into the draft if you have one enabled. Also ensure you disable "assign players to their original team"

06-27-2008, 11:08 AM	#4
BeachBum Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Copalis Beach, WA Posts: 192	Thank you. I know how to edit ballparks. I don't know where to find the values to change them to. Is there a resource for OotPB ballpark equivalencies? Gambo had a spread website that had a spreadsheet with this info and pictures of ballparks that you could use but I see the domain has expired and is no longer available. The era_ballparks file in the database folder of OOTP9 also has the factors.

06-29-2008, 10:26 PM	#6
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	BeachBum and HerbD, thank you both for replying. I will try to check those out.