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06-19-2008, 05:26 PM
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Minors (Triple A)
Join Date: Apr 2004
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I don't OOTP is obligated to have much depth beyond the ML rosters. Anything else is pudding.
It was quite easy for me to fix my teams (The Twins) top 10-20 prospects. The rest of the players simply don't matter since they will never reach the major leagues. Sure, I was dissapointed that Twins first round pick last year, Ben Revere, (who's hitting over .400 at A ball), so I took two minutes and created the dude. I would seriously recommend the Fill Minors button for people who want their rosters more filled out. I'm impressed by the roster set, having played the game for nearly five years, and using mod-made roster sets. |
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06-19-2008, 05:33 PM
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06-19-2008, 05:42 PM
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OOTP Roster Team
Join Date: Feb 2002
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06-19-2008, 05:45 PM
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Major Leagues
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Location: Portland, OR
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06-19-2008, 05:52 PM
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Location: Orange, CA
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06-19-2008, 06:01 PM
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Major Leagues
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 410
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I play exclusivly fictional, but I completely understand why people want up-to-date rosters. If I had more time and felt as strongly about this as others here is how I would solve it.
Using an open source wiki as a base. I would then write an plugin to connect to Lahman-esque database, so that each league, team, and player would have an editable wiki page with editable stats and other information (like OOTP ratings, i dunno?). Once the page is saved the Lahman-esque DB is updated. This way one person is exempt from making all changes and potentially many people could help change the database easily. They would also be able to download an up-to-date db of their own too. However I do not have that time, and the time I do have I want to spend doing other more important things (for me). If anyone wants a little help developing the above I could be persuaded to design and help, but I just don't have the time to do it all. |
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06-19-2008, 06:02 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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I could do the grunt work. The rest is a little over my head I'm afraid.
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06-19-2008, 06:20 PM
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Minors (Single A)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 51
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roster problems
I agree that there are some definite roster problems that make it very disheartening when first playing the game.
The Tampa Bay Rays have 5 players in AAA, which is terrible, and it's unfortunate that their awesome farm system is not accurately represented in the game. I guess their chances of winning the division in 2009 won't exist in this game as it does in real life. Most minor leaguers just stink, as others have discussed. There's no difference between Brett Gardner (a b-minus prospect who could actually develop into a legit leadoff hitter) who is just a non descript piece of garbage. Worse, Phil Hughes' potential ratings are just terrible. Now, Hughes may not become the #1 or #2 starter that just about every baseball scout and executive believes...and the game may play that out as well. BUT...no one can argue that the potential is not there. And the potential is actually NOT there on Phil. This is just one example of a much larger problem. Jack
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06-19-2008, 06:28 PM
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06-19-2008, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Here's what I propose... Someone (Me?) needs to export the rosters out to excel... Create a community wide Google Docs account. Upload the excel Doc, then share the doc with anyone that wants to contribute. The way they have Google Docs set up, we could all access and edit the excel file and then when its all done, just download the finished work and import it back and then we have a roster!
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06-19-2008, 07:28 PM
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06-19-2008, 07:38 PM
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Minors (Rookie Ball)
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Does anybody know a good resource for ML salaries? I'd like to manually adjust salaries (is that possible?) for the Rangers as some real life big salaries that aren't in OOTP9 make for a more interesting beginning of the game.
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06-19-2008, 07:40 PM
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Location: College Park, Md.
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06-19-2008, 07:42 PM
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Minors (Rookie Ball)
Join Date: Jun 2008
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06-19-2008, 07:56 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 2,436
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I've found that 5 out of 6 times I have simmed the first year with the standard 2008 rosters that Tampa Bay wins their division. Have you simmed it out?
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06-19-2008, 08:14 PM
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Minors (Triple A)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Greenville, USA
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06-19-2008, 09:40 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,005
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Here is one player. Not all the information needed for that player is posted, but this is substantially enough.
Please multiply this by approximately 5700 real world players, or about individual 1,065,750 ratings. HTML Code:
PLAYERS.CSV player_id 17425 team_id 7 league_id 100 first_name Jay last_name Bruce nick_name age 21 date_of_birth 4/3/1987 city_of_birth_id 7959 nation_id 206 second_nation_id 0 weight 195 height 191 retired 0 free_agent 0 last_league_id 10 last_team_id 73 organization_id 7 last_organization_id 7 language_ids0 0 language_ids1 -1 Uniform Number 30 experience 4 person_type 0 bats 2 throws 2 personality_greed 105 personality_loyalty 197 personality_play_for_winner 16 personality_work_ethic 34 personality_intelligence 69 personality_leader 33 historical_id historical_team_id best_contract_offer_id 0 injury_is_injured 0 injury_dtd_injury 0 injury_career_ending 0 injury_dl_left 0 injury_left 0 dtd_injury_effect 0 injury_id 93 prone_overall 57 prone_leg 73 prone_back 67 prone_arm 7 fatigue_pitches0 0 fatigue_pitches1 0 fatigue_pitches2 0 fatigue_pitches3 0 fatigue_pitches4 0 fatigue_pitches5 0 fatigue_points 0 fatigue_played_today 0 running_ratings_speed 154 running_ratings_stealing 146 running_ratings_baserunning 202 position 9 role 0 college 0 draft_year 0 draft_round 0 draft_pick 0 draft_eligible 0 hidden 0 draft_league_id 10 draft_team_id 0 turned_coach 0 hall_of_fame 0 rust 0 inducted 0 strategy_override_team 1 strategy_stealing 3 strategy_running 1 strategy_bunt_for_hit 0 strategy_sac_bunt 0 strategy_hit_run 0 strategy_hook_start 0 strategy_hook_relief 0 strategy_pitch_count 0 strategy_only_allow_single_inning_saves 0 strategy_pitch_around 0 strategy_sticky_lineup 0 strategy_sticky_position 0 strategy_no_pinch_if_rested 0 strategy_never_pinch_hit 0 strategy_defensive_sub 0 strategy_never_defensive_sub_for 0 local_pop 6 national_pop 5 draft_protected 0 morale 0 morale_player_performance 334 morale_team_performance 5 morale_team_transactions 161 expectation 7 morale_player_role 0 PLAYERS_BATTING.CSV player_id 17425 team_id 7 league_id 100 batting_ratings_overall_contact 203 batting_ratings_overall_gap 162 batting_ratings_overall_eye 126 batting_ratings_overall_strikeouts 151 batting_ratings_overall_hp 7 batting_ratings_overall_power 136 batting_ratings_overall_babip 176 batting_ratings_vsr_contact 199 batting_ratings_vsr_gap 160 batting_ratings_vsr_eye 124 batting_ratings_vsr_strikeouts 151 batting_ratings_vsr_hp 7 batting_ratings_vsr_power 135 batting_ratings_vsr_babip 172 batting_ratings_vsl_contact 216 batting_ratings_vsl_gap 167 batting_ratings_vsl_eye 132 batting_ratings_vsl_strikeouts 152 batting_ratings_vsl_hp 7 batting_ratings_vsl_power 140 batting_ratings_vsl_babip 189 batting_ratings_talent_contact 233 batting_ratings_talent_gap 162 batting_ratings_talent_eye 154 batting_ratings_talent_strikeouts 166 batting_ratings_talent_hp 7 batting_ratings_talent_power 175 batting_ratings_talent_babip 185 batting_ratings_misc_bunt 139 batting_ratings_misc_bunt_for_hit 102 batting_ratings_misc_hitter_type 0 batting_ratings_misc_groundball_pct 0 PLAYERS_FIELDING.csv player_id 17425 team_id 7 league_id 100 fielding_ratings_infield_range 1 fielding_ratings_infield_arm 1 fielding_ratings_turn_doubleplay 1 fielding_ratings_outfield_range 180 fielding_ratings_outfield_arm 146 fielding_ratings_catcher_arm 11 fielding_ratings_catcher_ability 1 fielding_ratings_infield_error 1 fielding_ratings_outfield_error 148 fielding_experience0 0 fielding_experience1 0 fielding_experience2 0 fielding_experience3 0 fielding_experience4 0 fielding_experience5 0 fielding_experience6 0 fielding_experience7 110 fielding_experience8 187 fielding_experience9 200 fielding_rating_pos1 0 fielding_rating_pos2 0 fielding_rating_pos3 0 fielding_rating_pos4 0 fielding_rating_pos5 0 fielding_rating_pos6 0 fielding_rating_pos7 129 fielding_rating_pos8 165 fielding_rating_pos9 250 PLAYERS_CONTRACT.csv player_id 17425 team_id 7 league_id 100 is_major 1 no_trade 0 last_year_team_option 0 last_year_player_option 0 contract_team_id 0 contract_league_id 0 season_year 2009 salary0 390000 salary1 0 salary2 0 salary3 0 salary4 0 salary5 0 salary6 0 salary7 0 salary8 0 salary9 0 years 1 current_year 0 minimum_pa 0 minimum_pa_bonus 0 minimum_ip 0 minimum_ip_bonus 0 mvp_bonus 0 cyyoung_bonus 0 Last edited by Raidergoo; 06-19-2008 at 09:59 PM. |
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06-19-2008, 09:45 PM
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Major Leagues
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Dayton, Ohio
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I totally disagree. Beckham-#1 draft pick in baseball this year. Will start in Rookie league or in A ball as almost all drafted players do. What does that have to do with his potential? (which is off the charts). His actual ratings may be low- and yes, it's a long and sordid path to the big leagues- but his POTENTIAL should reflect his overall promise- but his current ratings may get him a ticket to rookie ball or A ball. He's 18 for pete's sake. I could make a pretty good argument that baseball's BEST prospects potential wise (in terms of numbers) are in either Rookie, Shortseason A or high A. |
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06-19-2008, 10:03 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,005
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Entering stats helps a bit, but then you get a warmed over version of Lahman for major leaguers, and your minor league players are going to be biased towards older players playing below their level, as they will perform better against weaker opposition. |
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06-19-2008, 10:06 PM
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Major Leagues
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Dayton, Ohio
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Honestly, why you haven't been banned already again is beyond me. It is simply impossible for someone to have worse track record in this area. |
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