Utba - Page 317

Brooks TVB · 04-28-2008, 02:50 PM

I wouldn't mind getting involved.

bear · 04-28-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Romultiltus

I was thinking about something totally opposite from what your idea was.

How about for the initial draft only fighters from the UTBA Season 5 rosters are not available. This will definitely start things off fresh.

Just a thought...

The only problem this might cause involves flys. We might be a little short on talent there. Apart from that, a complete new start, like you suggest, might be interesting.

Bear

Romultiltus · 04-28-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bear

The only problem this might cause involves flys. We might be a little short on talent there. Apart from that, a complete new start, like you suggest, might be interesting.

Bear

I'm not home right now, so I can't check, but how many combined Flyweight / Junior Flyweight / Strawweight fighters are there in the 2.5 DB?

If they all get lumped into a single weight class, there should be no problem for the initial draft.

After that, I'm guessing that Scot will add fighters to the draft pool for season 2 that would include UTBA retreads.

Also, I'm just suggesting guys from the Season 5 main rosters - not any of the guys that were dumped into the Minors or previously used guys that were dumped on the waiver wire.

Romdawg88 · 04-28-2008, 04:28 PM

As of right now there are 292 Flys, 147 Jr. Flys, and 144 Straws for 583 fighters which would be more then enough to fill up a division. If I'm not mistaken these division were already combined in the original UTBA.

Romultiltus · 04-28-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Romdawg88

As of right now there are 292 Flys, 147 Jr. Flys, and 144 Straws for 583 fighters which would be more then enough to fill up a division. If I'm not mistaken these division were already combined in the original UTBA.

Thanks for the info Romy.

Curious: How many of 583 are rated '0'? I'm guessing that they will not be used in UTBA-II. I can't believe that we will use fighters that will not count towards the cap. (I would hate to see teams w/ (10) 10-rated guys, (1) 5-rated guy, and 5 0-rated guys.

Romdawg88 · 04-28-2008, 05:32 PM

61 of them are zeros.

mh2365 · 04-28-2008, 06:22 PM

I'm not a big fan of not including guys from the past league. I'd be more in favor of being able to retain 2-4.

kenyan_cheena · 04-28-2008, 07:18 PM

I was thinking that if we get, say, 24 teams, we could divide them into four divisions of 6 and have a 16 week season. So there'd be no conferences, just one league with four divisions. Each season you'd play your divisional opponents twice plus either all the teams from one other division or two teams from each of the other divisions.

Playoffs could be four division champions plus four wildcards, who would come from any division.

This would help to avoid the situation we had where Mike's team missed the playoffs despite winning almost all their matches.

Romultiltus · 04-28-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

I was thinking that if we get, say, 24 teams, we could divide them into four divisions of 6 and have a 16 week season. So there'd be no conferences, just one league with four divisions. Each season you'd play your divisional opponents twice plus either all the teams from one other division or two teams from each of the other divisions.

Playoffs could be four division champions plus four wildcards, who would come from any division.

This would help to avoid the situation we had where Mike's team missed the playoffs despite winning almost all their matches.

That would work, but I think that the ageing formula needs to be tweaked to allow for longer careers. Fighters should at least be able to hang around for 4-5 seasons before they leave Prime.

CONN CHRIS · 04-28-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder

If there's room for new blood, I'm in.

(and if it matters at all, in favor of anything that puts styles on equal footing)

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Originally Posted by Romultiltus

Another member of the Connecticut crew!!!

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

It's like Athlete's Foot fungus! Once it appears, it just keeps spreading!

Move out of fly over country my boy. Become relevant, find self-worth; it's all here in Connecticut!

CONN CHRIS · 04-28-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

This would help to avoid the situation we had where Mike's team missed the playoffs despite winning almost all their matches.

I'm all about about keeping Mike down. I say no to this idea.

kenyan_cheena · 04-28-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Romultiltus

That would work, but I think that the ageing formula needs to be tweaked to allow for longer careers. Fighters should at least be able to hang around for 4-5 seasons before they leave Prime.

Yep, I figure that will be necessary.

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I'm all about about keeping Mike down. I say no to this idea.

LOL

kenyan_cheena · 04-28-2008, 07:35 PM

I also think it would be cool if we kept the divisional makeups similar to how they were in the original UTBA. Preserving certain rivalries would be a good thing.

mh2365 · 04-28-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I'm all about about keeping Mike down. I say no to this idea.

Connie takes a little time off and comes back fiesty

I made the playoffs exactly zero times!!!!!! But hey at least I won a match ... where is Lee????

kenyan_cheena · 04-28-2008, 08:01 PM

Will Icetea be in it?

kenyan_cheena · 04-28-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

I'm not a big fan of not including guys from the past league. I'd be more in favor of being able to retain 2-4.

I'll be very happy if I can keep Monzon and Chavez!

mh2365 · 04-28-2008, 08:11 PM

Won't be the same for me if I don't have Johnson and Arguello.

jbergey22 · 04-28-2008, 09:25 PM

Welcome back scot,

being that I thought I had a good chance of finally breaking into the playoffs I am slightly disappointed we are starting over but it is probably for the best long term. I'd like to be in if there is still room.

There has been mention of a couple a "bugs" and the need for a new patch. Is the plan to wait for patch#2 or start up ASAP.

SAL · 04-28-2008, 10:57 PM

Sign-ups for the league restart (UTBA II) will be taken on this thread.

Once we have a list of owners in place........we'll fine tune & finalize the rules and start a new thread.
The old UTBA rules will be used for starters.

Rule changes on the table so far:

I) Change the current team cap system to work within the new game.
example....a fighters overall rating will change now as he advances through the different career stages.

II) Do away with the minor leagues.

III) Give 3 points for a unanimous dec. win instead of 2.

IV) Adjust (increase) the number of fights it will take a fighter to age.

V) Split the 24 teams into 4 divisions (6 teams each) and do away with the Gold/Silver Conference. Also have 4 wildcard teams in addition to the 4 division winners in the playoffs.

************************************************** *******

The Team limit for the UTBA II will be set at 24 teams Courtesy of course will be given to any owner from the original UTBA as far as the sign ups go. Original owners will be sent a PM and have one week to respond. If they do not respond within one week, their team spot will be forfeited and given to one of the new members listed below.

Any new member wanting a spot in the UTBA that does not get a spot this time around, will be placed on a waiting list in the order their sign up was received.

List of interested owners for the restart so far......
Ex-owners:
1) mh2365 - Mike
2) Ian Lord - Ian
3) CONN CHRIS - Christopher
4) Romultiltus - Dave
5) Romdawg88 - Romy
6) Tommysixfingers - Tommy
7) kenyan_cheena - Dan
8) bigMatt - Matt
9) Claybor - Steve
10) bear - Don
11) jbergey22 - Jeremy
12) umk - Kerwin
13) Bronx Bomber 15 - Jim
14) Mad Bomber - Greg
15) Thunder - Will
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17)
18)
19)
20)
21)
22)
23)
24)

New members list:
1) Brooks TVB

*Edit.....I just sent out the PMs to all of the past owners that have not signed up yet. They have until May 5, 2008 to respond.
Two past owners have already responded and I've gave their spots to the Mad Bomber & Thunder.

SAL · 04-28-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Welcome back scot,

being that I thought I had a good chance of finally breaking into the playoffs I am slightly disappointed we are starting over but it is probably for the best long term. I'd like to be in if there is still room.

There has been mention of a couple a "bugs" and the need for a new patch. Is the plan to wait for patch#2 or start up ASAP.

Hey Jeremy,
Thanks for the welcome back.

I'm waiting for May 5th as that is the deadline I've set for the past owners in the UTBA to let me know if they are in this one (UTBA II) or not.

After we fill the league up, it will then be on to rule changes and then the draft. So I'd say we are a good 3 to 4 weeks away from starting anything.

04-28-2008, 02:50 PM	#6321
Brooks TVB All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Loudon, TN. Posts: 1,439	I wouldn't mind getting involved. __________________ UTBA II Member (Brooks Battlers 5-16-0) Career Record UTBA Owners Cup Record 1-1 (1) UTBA II Season 2 (Battlers 2-9-0) Mike Hanson's LBA Complete Fighter Management

04-28-2008, 04:28 PM	#6324
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	As of right now there are 292 Flys, 147 Jr. Flys, and 144 Straws for 583 fighters which would be more then enough to fill up a division. If I'm not mistaken these division were already combined in the original UTBA. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You.

04-28-2008, 05:32 PM	#6326
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	61 of them are zeros. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You.

04-28-2008, 09:25 PM	#6338
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	Welcome back scot, being that I thought I had a good chance of finally breaking into the playoffs I am slightly disappointed we are starting over but it is probably for the best long term. I'd like to be in if there is still room. There has been mention of a couple a "bugs" and the need for a new patch. Is the plan to wait for patch#2 or start up ASAP. Last edited by jbergey22; 04-28-2008 at 09:27 PM.

04-28-2008, 10:57 PM	#6339
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Update........... Sign-ups for the league restart (UTBA II) will be taken on this thread. Once we have a list of owners in place........we'll fine tune & finalize the rules and start a new thread. The old UTBA rules will be used for starters. Rule changes on the table so far: I) Change the current team cap system to work within the new game. example....a fighters overall rating will change now as he advances through the different career stages. II) Do away with the minor leagues. III) Give 3 points for a unanimous dec. win instead of 2. IV) Adjust (increase) the number of fights it will take a fighter to age. V) Split the 24 teams into 4 divisions (6 teams each) and do away with the Gold/Silver Conference. Also have 4 wildcard teams in addition to the 4 division winners in the playoffs. ************************************************ *** The Team limit for the UTBA II will be set at 24 teams** Courtesy of course will be given to any owner from the original UTBA as far as the sign ups go. Original owners will be sent a PM and have one week to respond. If they do not respond within one week, their team spot will be forfeited and given to one of the new members listed below. Any new member wanting a spot in the UTBA that does not get a spot this time around, will be placed on a waiting list in the order their sign up was received. List of interested owners for the restart so far...... Ex-owners: 1) mh2365 - Mike 2) Ian Lord - Ian 3) CONN CHRIS - Christopher 4) Romultiltus - Dave 5) Romdawg88 - Romy 6) Tommysixfingers - Tommy 7) kenyan_cheena - Dan 8) bigMatt - Matt 9) Claybor - Steve 10) bear - Don 11) jbergey22 - Jeremy 12) umk - Kerwin 13) Bronx Bomber 15 - Jim 14) Mad Bomber - Greg 15) Thunder - Will 16) 17) 18) 19) 20) 21) 22) 23) 24) New members list: 1) Brooks TVB Edit.....I just sent out the PMs to all of the past owners that have not signed up yet. They have until May 5, 2008 to respond. Two past owners have already responded and I've gave their spots to the Mad Bomber & Thunder.* Last edited by SAL; 04-29-2008 at 09:29 AM.

04-28-2008, 06:22 PM	#6327
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I'm not a big fan of not including guys from the past league. I'd be more in favor of being able to retain 2-4.

04-28-2008, 07:18 PM	#6328
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	I was thinking that if we get, say, 24 teams, we could divide them into four divisions of 6 and have a 16 week season. So there'd be no conferences, just one league with four divisions. Each season you'd play your divisional opponents twice plus either all the teams from one other division or two teams from each of the other divisions. Playoffs could be four division champions plus four wildcards, who would come from any division. This would help to avoid the situation we had where Mike's team missed the playoffs despite winning almost all their matches.

04-28-2008, 07:35 PM	#6333
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	I also think it would be cool if we kept the divisional makeups similar to how they were in the original UTBA. Preserving certain rivalries would be a good thing.

04-28-2008, 08:01 PM	#6335
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	Will Icetea be in it?

04-28-2008, 08:11 PM	#6337
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Won't be the same for me if I don't have Johnson and Arguello.