Time Warp HOF Ballot 1981

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:22 AM

This is the annual Time Warp Baseball League Hall of Fame thread.

New to the ballot is the great centerfielder in league history.

Have at it.

John

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:23 AM

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results, 1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results, 1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results, 1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results, 1955 Results, 1956 Results, 1957 Results, 1958 Results, 1959 Results, 1960 Results (lost in board crash), 1961 Results, 1962 Results, 1963 Results, 1964 Results, 1965 Results, 1966 Results, 1967 Results, 1968 Results, 1969 Results, 1970 Results, 1971 Results, 1972 Results, 1973 Results, 1974 Results, 1975 Results, 1976 Results, 1977 Results, 1978 Results, 1979 Results, 1980 Results

All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1981 (retired after 1975 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

PLEASE NOTE:
Players who lost service time to the war are denoted with: WWII

Notes:

OPS+ and ERA+ are listed for all players now. 100 is considered league average. The higher the # the better the player. This lets you see how they did in relation to the players of their generation while also letting you compare their dominance of the league to players from different eras.

All Pros are for the Post War era only (1946-). There are traditionally voted on by a poll of the league's GM's and regular participants (1946-48, 1950-62, 1969-) or by the Sporting News (1949, 1963-68, All Decade & Centenial Teams). The year end teams are named for each league and feature one player for each field position along with 4-5 starting pitchers (depending on the rotation size of the era) and one relief pitcher.

The stats in "New Cato" are a work in progess with certain years missing.

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:23 AM

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

189 - 2B Woody Woodson
186 - LF Ray Kress
166 - CF Dark Horse Allen
163 - 2B Jason Tedford
159 - SS Whitey Kohse
158 - LF Oscar Vancini
157 - LF Leo Santiago
156 - 1B Charlton Brown
152 - 2B Jed Burke
152 - 1B Patrick Seifried
152 - 1B Arnie Stewart
152 - 1B Shigeo Oh
149 - 2B Genaro Nunez
148 - C Whiskey Allen
148 - 1B Ken Chaucer
147 - 1B Lonny Arrendale
146 - CF Peaches Badeau
146 - 3B Dave Lemmings
145 - SS Blake Crocitto
145 - LF Paul Lett
142 - C Hershel Lee
141 - CF 1B Ben Baum
141 - RF Tee Carver
141 - LF Ogden Wing
141 - RF Asa Booker
141 - RF/CF Andrew Vamos
140 - CF Bud Breckenridge
140 - RF John Falise
140 - CF Ray Brown
140 - RF Scott Podlasek
140 - 3B Dale Lamberty
140 - 2B Bobby Martin
139 - LF Dewey Mickelsen
139 - SS/2B Tom Howard
138 - RF Tyrell Chestnut
138 - LF Wolter Tjeenk-Willink
138 - C John Degal
138 - CF Rudel Dietrich
137 - 2B Kid Fite
137 - LF Will Miller
137 - 3B Steven Bussell
137 - 1B Ted McMurray
136 - C Harry Cohan
136 - 1B Jared Jarry
135 - C/1B John Klehammer
135 - OF Jimmy Ditty
134 - 3B Carl Kahle
134 - 2B Alan Liao Jr.
133 - 2B Slap Hertzog
133 - SS Flaky Arsenault
133 - CF Roy Hobbs
133 - CF Dave Arkless
133 - 2B Matt Perly
133 - CF Mark Silcox
132 - SS Adolf Greisbach
132 - LF John Schmieder
132 - 1B Cookie Parrish
131 - C Chuck Rauch
131 - RF Nick Graves
131 - 2B Hans Habermehl
131 - RF William Perry
130 - C Sunny Davie
129 - C Tom Turley
129 - RF George Ward
129 - CF Ping Hung
129 - C Herman Dunkel
129 - RF Moonlight Graham
128 - SS Morris Lutske
127 - CF Campbell Ditty
127 - 3B Troy Kinnear
127 - SS Mike Fellner
126 - LF Glendon Zegri
125 - 2B Herm Vardaman
125 - 2B Mike Kreitenberg
124 - SS Levi Walls
124 - SS Kenneth Whitt
123 - SS Dale Reneau
123 - 3B Alan Liao, Sr.
122 - CF Sam Kass
122 - 1B Sal Rossi
121 - 1B Quenton Misisca
120 - 2B/CF Ervin Skjerly
118 - 3B August Kahle
114 - 2B/SS Jonny Perly
114 - CF Jon Minzey
110 - 3B David McAuliffe
110 - SS Ted Stuart
104 - SS Dennis Ward
102 - C Harry Finley

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:23 AM

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ by position for reference:

148 - C Whiskey Allen
142 - C Hershel Lee
138 - C John Degal
136 - C Harry Cohan
135 - C/1B John Klehammer
131 - C Chuck Rauch
130 - C Sunny Davie
129 - C Tom Turley
129 - C Herman Dunkel
102 - C Harry Finley

156 - 1B Charlton Brown
152 - 1B Patrick Seifried
152 - 1B Arnie Stewart
152 - 1B Shigeo Oh
148 - 1B Ken Chaucer
147 - 1B Lonny Arrendale
137 - 1B Ted McMurray
136 - 1B Jared Jarry
135 - C/1B John Klehammer
132 - 1B Cookie Parrish
122 - 1B Sal Rossi
121 - 1B Quenton Misisca

189 - 2B Woody Woodson
163 - 2B Jason Tedford
152 - 2B Jed Burke
149 - 2B Genaro Nunez
140 - 2B Bobby Martin
139 - SS/2B Tom Howard
137 - 2B Kid Fite
134 - 2B Alan Liao Jr.
133 - 2B Slap Hertzog
133 - 2B Matt Perly
131 - 2B Hans Habermehl
125 - 2B Herm Vardaman
125 - 2B Mike Kreitenberg
120 - 2B/CF Ervin Skjerly
114 - 2B/SS Jonny Perly

159 - SS Whitey Kohse
145 - SS Blake Crocitto
139 - SS/2B Tom Howard
133 - SS Flaky Arsenault
132 - SS Adolf Greisbach
128 - SS Morris Lutske
127 - SS Mike Fellner
124 - SS Levi Walls
124 - SS Kenneth Whitt
123 - SS Dale Reneau
114 - 2B/SS Jonny Perly
110 - SS Ted Stuart
104 - SS Dennis Ward

146 - 3B Dave Lemmings
140 - 3B Dale Lamberty
137 - 3B Steven Bussell
134 - 3B Carl Kahle
127 - 3B Troy Kinnear
123 - 3B Alan Liao, Sr.
118 - 3B August Kahle
110 - 3B David McAuliffe

186 - LF Ray Kress
158 - LF Oscar Vancini
157 - LF Leo Santiago
145 - LF Paul Lett
141 - LF Ogden Wing
139 - LF Dewey Mickelsen
138 - LF Wolter Tjeenk-Willink
137 - LF Will Miller
132 - LF John Schmieder
126 - LF Glendon Zegri

166 - CF Dark Horse Allen
146 - CF Peaches Badeau
141 - CF 1B Ben Baum
141 - OF Andrew Vamos
140 - CF Bud Breckenridge
140 - CF Ray Brown
138 - CF Rudel Dietrich
135 - OF Jimmy Ditty
133 - CF Roy Hobbs
133 - CF Dave Arkless
133 - CF Mark Silcox
129 - CF Ping Hung
127 - CF Campbell Ditty
122 - CF Sam Kass
120 - 2B/CF Ervin Skjerly
114 - CF Jon Minzey

141 - RF Tee Carver
141 - RF Asa Booker
141 - OF Andrew Vamos
140 - RF John Falise
140 - RF Scott Podlasek
138 - RF Tyrell Chestnut
131 - RF Nick Graves
131 - RF William Perry
129 - RF George Ward
129 - RF Moonlight Graham

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:24 AM

Batters

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 607
RBI: 1906
2B: 665
BB: 2509
R: 2065
SB: 1297

Ben Cook, 3B/CF, Last Season: 1961
1722 H, 175 2B, 129 HR, 665 RBI, 1254 R
476 K, 1391 BB, 575 SB
.260 AVG, .389 OBP, .371 SLG, .760 OPS
OPS+: 114
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1955, 1956, 1957
Pennants: 1950, 1953, 1954, 1957, 1959
WS Victories: 1950, 1957, 1959
WS Record: .250/.342/.370/.712, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 16 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Runs 2, SB 7, BB 5
Career Top 25: SB (19), BB (20)
Final Year on Ballot: 1981

Wilford Woodworth, 3B, Last Season: 1965
1663 H, 305 2B, 408 HR, 1278 RBI, 1141 R
1286 K, 1051 BB, 57 SB
.244 AVG, .350 OBP, .483 SLG, .833 OPS
OPS+: 128
BOY Award: 1955
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1954, 1955
Pennants: 1956, 1959
WS Victories: 1956
WS Record: .150/.292/.275/.567, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 6 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: HR 1, SLG 1, TB 1
Career Top 25: HR (6)
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

"Grumpy" Abraham Noel, 1B, Last Season: 1966
2799 H, 331 2B, 253 HR, 1346 RBI, 1248 R
1436 K, 1132 BB, 3 SB
.294 AVG, .371 OBP, .416 SLG, .787 OPS
OPS+: 122
BOY Award: 1959
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
All Pros: 1959, 1960
Pennants: 1956, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962
WS Victories: 1961, 1962
WS Record: .252/.328/.383/.711, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 14 R
Batting Titles: 1959
Led League in: BA 1, OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, R 1, H 1, TB 1, RBI 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

Roger Joyce, SS, Last Season: 1967
2394 H, 341 2B, 109 HR, 837 RBI, 1128 R
746 K, 685 BB
.312 AVG, .370 OBP, .416 SLG, .785 OPS
OPS+: 122
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1956, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963
Pennants: 1956, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1966
WS Victories: 1961, 1962
WS Record: .240/.308/.339/.647, 2 HR, 7 RBI, 10 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: R 1, H 3
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1988

Lucien "Lulu" Arbour, LF, Last Season: 1969
2018 H, 315 2B, 214 HR, 1015 RBI, 1123 R
911 K, 538 BB, 443 SB
.305 AVG, .357 OBP, .482 SLG, .839 OPS
OPS+: 137
BOY Award: 1965
ROY Award: 1957
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1965
Pennants: 1965, 1967
WS Victories: 1965
WS Record: .196/.212/.353/.564, 2 HR, 3 RBI, 6 R
Batting Titles: 1965
Led League in: BA 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, R 1, H 1, 2B 2, 3B 2,, SB 2
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1989

Henry Thomas, CF, Last Season: 1970
2369 H, 367 2B, 285 HR, 1146 RBI, 1236 R
1402 K, 715 BB
.292 AVG, .349 OBP, .446 SLG, .815 OPS
OPS+: 131
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1960, 1963, 1964, 1965
Pennants: 1961, 1964, 1965
WS Victories: 1964
WS Record: .351/.390/.610/1.001, 6 HR, 16 RBI, 16 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 2
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1990

David Lawrence, 1B/3B/SS , Last Season: 1972
2352 H, 410 2B, 204 HR, 1190 RBI, 1170 R
1046 K, 922 BB
.297 AVG, .372 OBP, .445 SLG, .817 OPS
OPS+: 133
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1964
All Pros: 1967 (3B), 1968 (SS)
Pennants: 1960, 1969
WS Victories: 1960, 1969
Post Season Record: .478/.500/.696/1.196 , 1 HR, 4 RBI, 4 R
Batting Titles: 1970
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1992

Jim Alan, RF/LF, Last Season: 1973
2247 H, 337 2B, 427 HR, 1396 RBI, 1271 R
1146 K, 886 BB
.270 AVG, .340 OBP, .478 SLG, .818 OPS
OPS+: 137
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1960, 1961, 1965,
Divisions: 1971
Pennants: 1964, 1965, 1966
WS Victories: 1964
Post Season Record: .329/.366/.711/1.076, 7 HR, 20 RBI, 14 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: HR (1)
Career Top 25: HR (9th)
Final Year on Ballot: 1993

Henry Cruz, C, Last Season: 1973
2056 H, 247 2B, 153 HR, 955 RBI, 852 R
761 K, 558 BB
.299 AVG, .350 OBP, .407 SLG, .757 OPS
OPS+: 116
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1958
Gold Gloves: 1958, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1969
All Pros: 1960, 1961, 1963, 1965
Divisions: 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973
Pennants: 1960, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971
WS Victories: 1960, 1966, 1967
Post Season Record: .227/.269/.267/.535, 0 HR, 13 RBI, 7 R
Batting Titles: 1969
Led League in: BA 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1993

Alberto Val, 2B, Last Season: 1973
2003 H, 342 2B, 104 HR, 1093 RBI, 743 R
805 K, 1007 BB
.287 AVG, .376 OBP, .392 SLG, .768 OPS
OPS+: 125
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1966
Divisions: 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973
Pennants: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1973
WS Victories: 1966, 1967, 1973
Post Season Record: .277/.323/.399/.721, 2 HR, 24 R, 18 RBI
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1994

NEW

Jory Akridge, 1B, Last Season: 1975
1843 H, 268 2B, 295 HR, 1142 RBI, 994 R
1203 K, 567 BB, 234 SB
.263 AVG, .321 OBP, .447 SLG, .768 OPS
OPS+: 123
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1962
Gold Gloves: 1964, 1966
All Pros: 1966
Pennants: 1966
WS Victories: None
WS Record: .333/.364/.810/1.173, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 5 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1995

Joe Corman, 3B/1B, Last Season: 1975
2118 H, 226 2B, 227 HR, 1118 RBI, 940 R
1051 K, 430 BB, 6 SB
.305 AVG, .347 OBP, .445 SLG, .792 OPS
OPS+: 131
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1970 (3B), 1971 (3B), 1972 (1B)
Divisions: 1971
Pennants: 1966
WS Victories: NONE
Post Season Record: .231/.279/.436/.715, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 6 R
Batting Titles: 1972
Led League in: BA 1, H 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1995

Harmon Dego, 1B, Last Season: 1975
2432 H, 313 2B, 363 HR, 1410 RBI, 1122 R
949 K, 684 BB, 7 SB
.277 AVG, .329 OBP, .443 SLG, .771 OPS
OPS+: 122
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
All Pros: 1965, 1967
Divisions: 1970, 1973
Pennants: 1963, 1964, 1970
WS Victories: 1963, 1970
WS Record: .317/.330/.465/.795, 3 HR, 8 RBI, 10 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: HR (19th)
Final Year on Ballot: 1995

Halan Edwards, 3B/1B, Last Season: 1975
2347 H, 291 2B, 319 HR, 1363 RBI, 1301 R
928 K, 795 BB, 17 SB
.279 AVG, .342 OBP, .445 SLG, .788 OPS
OPS+: 128
BOY Award: 1964
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
WS MVP: 1964
All Pros: 1964 (1B), 1966 (3B), 1969 (3B), 1972 (3B)
Divisions: 1972
Pennants: 1964, 1965
WS Victories: 1964
WS Record: .364/.429/.527/.956, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 10 R
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, OPS 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1995

Jed Williams, CF, Last Season: 1974
2706 H, 469 2B, 332 HR, 1253 RBI, 1666 R
1253 K, 1361 BB, 57 SB
.317 AVG, .411 OBP, .514 SLG, .925 OPS
OPS+: 168 (3rd All-Time)
BOY Award: 1960, 1965, 1966, 1969
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1961, 1967, 1971, 1972
All Pros: 1959-71 consecutively; 1960s All Decade Team
Divisions: 1971, 1972, 1974
Pennants: 1963
WS Victories: None
Post Season Record: .294/.342/.397/.740, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 6 R
Batting Titles: 1966
Led League in: OBP 8, SLG 5, OPS 7, R 8, TB 3, 2B 2
Career Top 25: OPS (5th), BB (25th), R (16th)
Final Year on Ballot: 1981

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:25 AM

Pitchers
Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 446
K: 4078
CG: 601
SHO: 95
SV: 390

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

210 - Andrew Murphy
163 - Frank Smith
162 - Tim Lopresto
161 - Raymond Gindler
158 - Allen Albertini
157 - Jethro Lee
157 - Cecil Tan
150 - Randy Liebermann
145 - Punchy Cote
145 - Howard Adams
145 - Bourbon Allen Jr.
144 - Johnny Cakes Sutton
144 - Wesley McGee
144 - Perry Wanklen
142 - Cotton Simson
138 - Dave McBean
138 - Martin Gwaltney
137 - Mark Krosser
137 - Johnny Swinson
137 - Carpenter Erickson
137 - Joe Helton
136 - Bowie Castellon
135 - Ken Zinn
134 - Otto Kahle
134 - Scott Fenner
133 - Jassen Nelson
131 - Remmy Paul
131 - Luke Riley
131 - Tobe Palmer
129 - David Wiskersham
128 - Brad De la Garza
125 - Adam Sardina
125 - Grady Ingram
125 - Levi Sellers
124 - Bourbon Allen
124 - Art Booth
121 - Ahrend Nagel
120 - Terry Schukraft
116 - John Nolting
116 - Hal Andrew
115 - Mark Ponfick

jdw · 04-10-2008, 01:25 AM

Bud Ulrich, Last Season: 1962, HOF Standard: 35
210-125, 62.7%, 3.88 ERA
3274.2 IP, 1411 BB, 2085 K, 73 CG, 16 SHO, 1.34 WHIP
ERA+: 108
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1949
All Pros: 1952, 1955
Pennants: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1959
World Championships: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1959
WS Record: 4-1, 4.77 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1983

Lex Tjeenk-Willink, Last Season: 1964, HOF Standard: 46
245-170, 59.0%, 3.79 ERA
3877 IP, 1287 BB, 3069 K, 121 CG, 19 SHO, 1.19 WHIP
ERA+: 112
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
All Pros: 1957
Pennants: NONE
World Championships: NONE
WS Record: N/A
No-Hitters: 2
Led League in: Wins 1
Career Top 25: K's (10)
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

Hank Makris, Last Season: 1964
214-173, 55.3%, 3.48 ERA
3634.0 IP, 1092 BB, 1563 K, 166 CG, 32 SHO, 1.28 WHIP
ERA+: 124
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: 1953, 1958, 1961, 1963
WS MVP: 1957, 1959
All Pros: 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960
Pennants: 1957, 1959
World Championships: 1957, 1959
WS Record: 4-0, 0.82 ERA
No-Hitters: 2
Led League in: SHO 2,
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

Cal Granger, Last Season: 1968
100-104, 49.0%, 3.53 ERA
1426.3 IP, 421 BB, 609 K, 390 SV
ERA+: N/A
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
All Pros: 1952, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1962, 1964; 1950s All Decade Team
Pennants: 1951, 1957, 1958, 1963
World Championships: 1951, 1958
WS Record: 0-1, 3.49 ERA, 4 SV
Led League in: SV 6, G 1
Career Top 25: SV (1), Appearances (1), Relief Innings (1)
Final Year on Ballot: 1988

Brock Putnam, Last Season: 1971
187-106, 63.8%, 2.94 ERA
2869.7 IP, 601 BB, 1636 K, 180 CG, 36 SHO, 1.16 WHIP
ERA+: 134
Murphy Award: 1960
ROY Award: 1960
GG Award: NONE
All Pros: 1960, 1962, 1964
Pennants: 1960, 1961, 1962
World Championships: 1961, 1962
WS Record: 3-0, 2.92 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: W 1, IP 1, SHO 2
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1991

John Patterson, Last Season: 1972
121-73, 62.4%, 2.68 ERA
1301.3 IP, 192 BB, 872 K, 339 SV
ERA+: N/A
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
All Pros: 1959, 1961, 1963, 1964, 1965; 1960s All Decade Team
Divisions: 1969, 1970, 1971
Pennants: 1955, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1968, 1970, 1971
World Championships: 1955, 1963
Post Season Record: 4-1, 2.19 ERA, 1 SV
Led League in: SV 6, G 5
Career Top 25: SV (2), Appearances (2), Relief Innings (2)
Final Year on Ballot: 1992

Louis Schmit, Last Season: 1972
244-178, 57.8%, 3.47 ERA
4007.0 IP, 1523 BB, 3528 K, 112 CG, 35 SHO, 1.20 WHIP
ERA+: 118
Murphy Award: 1964, 1966
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: 1964
All Pros: 1964, 1966
Divisions: 1969
Pennants: 1964, 1965
World Championships: 1964
Post Season Record: 3-2, 3.69 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 1, W 2, W% 1, SHO 2, K 1
Career Top 25: K (7)
Final Year on Ballot: 1992

Roosevelt Wurth, Last Season: 1973
222-149, 59.8%, 3.60 ERA
3543.2 IP, 416 BB, 2065 K, 179 CG, 16 SHO, 1.11 WHIP
ERA+: 111
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
All Pros: NONE
Divisions: 1973
Pennants: 1959, 1965, 1973
World Championships: 1973
Post Season Record: 0-2, 4.13 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: W% 1, CG 1, WHIP 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1993

Charley Harrington, Last Season: 1974
246-182, 57.5%, 3.32 ERA
3972.0 IP, 1325 BB, 3437 K, 73 CG, 14 SHO, 1.15 WHIP
ERA+: 125
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
All Pros: 1966
Divisions: 1971
Pennants: 1966
World Championships: NONE
Post Season Record: 0-1, 5.69 ERA
No-Hitters: 1 (Perfect Game)
Led League in: W 1, W% 1, K 1
Career Top 25: K 11
Final Year on Ballot: 1994

NEW

Theo Torbett, Last Season: 1975
252-169, 59.9%, 3.19 ERA
4055.0 IP, 780 BB, 2848 K, 116 CG, 26 SHO, 1.09 WHIP
ERA+: 124
Murphy Award: 1961
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
All Pros: 1960, 1961, 1962
Divisions: 1969
Pennants: 1963, 1969
WS Victories: 1969
Post Season Record: 2-2, 1.82 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: W 1
Career Top 25: K (21st)
Final Year on Ballot: 1995

Roger Rembro, Last Season: 1975
223-143, 60.9%, 3.48 ERA
3368.0 IP, 744 BB, 1860 K, 145 CG, 23 SHO, 1.19 WHIP
ERA+: 115
Murphy Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
All Pros: 1967
Divisions: 1971
Pennants: 1958, 1965, 1967
WS Victories: 1958, 1965
Post Season Record: 1-2, 3.38 ERA
No-Hitters: 1
Led League in: SHO 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1995

chowbeng · 04-10-2008, 08:03 AM

SP Brock Putnam
CF Jed Williams
CF Henry Thomas

tward13 · 04-10-2008, 03:26 PM

Torbett
J. Williams
Joyce
Makris
Putnam
Lawrence
Ulrich
Alan

fhomess · 04-10-2008, 05:36 PM

CF Henry Thomas
CF Jed Williams
RF Jim Alan
SP Theo Torbett
SP Charley Harrington
SP Brock Putnam
SP Louis Schmit
SP Lex Tjeenk-Willink

FYI - You've got Rembro incorrectly credited with a World Series victory in 1967 instead of 1965.

jdw · 04-10-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhomess

FYI - You've got Rembro incorrectly credited with a World Series victory in 1967 instead of 1965.

Fixed.

John

jdw · 04-10-2008, 05:54 PM

Jim Alan (RF/LF)
Ben Cook (3B/CF)
Cal Granger (CL)
Charley Harrington (SP)
Roger Joyce (SS)
John Patterson (CL)
Henry Thomas (CF)
Theo Torbett (SP)
Jed Williams (CF)
Wilford Woodworth (3B)

John

ifspuds · 04-11-2008, 12:31 PM

Henry Thomas
Jim Alan
Lex Tjeenk-Willink
Hank Makris
Brock Putnam
John Patterson

Oh, and I guess Jed Williams too.

I'd like to say a few words to those who may not be familiar with John Patterson. This guy is quite possibly the greatest relief pitcher in Time Warp history. Maybe that doesn't mean a lot to you, since it's really only been in the modern era that relievers gained much notoriety, but Patterson is one of the greats. Here's a guy that threw over 80 innings in 9 of 11 years through the prime of his career, over 100 twice. A 4.5:1 K:BB ratio for his career. 121 wins as a reliever, including a 14-4 mark in 1961 with 34 saves. His career save totals were harmed by his trade to Pittsburgh late in his career, where he helped mentor a player that would eventually pass him in career saves, Lynn Willmon. He was also one of the great postseason pitchers of all time, not allowing even a single run in his first three trips to the postseason, which covered 11 innings. In the 1963 World Series, he threw 6.2 innings over 4 games, allowed 6 hits, walked none and struck out 3, winning 2 games and picking up a save. He had just one bad postseason, in 1968, though it was arguably one of his better seasons: 4-4, 9 saves, a 1.50 ERA in 54 innings, in which he struck out 31 and walked just 6 batters. Consider his 1965 campaign for the Detroit Tigers: 8-3, 26 saves, 75 games, 94 innings, 81 strikeouts. How many did he walk in those 94 innings? Four. Four batters walked. He had 5 seasons in which he pitched at least 50 innings and walked fewer than 10 batters.

Please consider giving him your vote.

jdw · 04-11-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ifspuds

I'd like to say a few words to those who may not be familiar with John Patterson. This guy is quite possibly the greatest relief pitcher in Time Warp history. Maybe that doesn't mean a lot to you, since it's really only been in the modern era that relievers gained much notoriety, but Patterson is one of the greats. Here's a guy that threw over 80 innings in 9 of 11 years through the prime of his career, over 100 twice. A 4.5:1 K:BB ratio for his career. 121 wins as a reliever, including a 14-4 mark in 1961 with 34 saves. His career save totals were harmed by his trade to Pittsburgh late in his career, where he helped mentor a player that would eventually pass him in career saves, Lynn Willmon. He was also one of the great postseason pitchers of all time, not allowing even a single run in his first three trips to the postseason, which covered 11 innings. In the 1963 World Series, he threw 6.2 innings over 4 games, allowed 6 hits, walked none and struck out 3, winning 2 games and picking up a save. He had just one bad postseason, in 1968, though it was arguably one of his better seasons: 4-4, 9 saves, a 1.50 ERA in 54 innings, in which he struck out 31 and walked just 6 batters. Consider his 1965 campaign for the Detroit Tigers: 8-3, 26 saves, 75 games, 94 innings, 81 strikeouts. How many did he walk in those 94 innings? Four. Four batters walked. He had 5 seasons in which he pitched at least 50 innings and walked fewer than 10 batters.

Please consider giving him your vote.

Putnam is a candidate on his eight year year run from 1960-67. Wins Shares for Putnam from high to low in his career, with Patterson in the same fashion:

Code:

Patterson     Putnam
25.4  1961   29.2  1964
24.0  1963   27.1  1966
23.8  1964   27.0  1963
22.8  1965   26.2  1965
20.8  1959   24.4  1961
19.2  1960   23.3  1962
19.0  1957   23.0  1967
13.4  1966   22.7  1960
12.1  1962   12.9  1968
10.8  1958    1.5  1970
10.1  1969    1.8  1959
 9.4  1970    1.0  1969
 8.8  1967    1.0  1971
 8.2  1968
 7.1  1956
 4.4  1955
 3.0  1971
 1.1  1972

That's how good Patterson was as a relief pitcher - his best seven seasons can stand up next to the best seven seasons of a starter from the same era whose whole case is based on peak seasons... and not get embrassed by it.

Putnam's 8th best season in that run does slap around Patterson's 8th best season.

The 9th is close, slight favor to Patterson.

After that, it's not even close. Take those 1969-70 seasons where Patterson was a very valuable part of a Lefty-Righty bullpen combo that closed out games for the NL Champs. In contrast, Brock was a bad starter who couldn't keep his job, then became a bad reliever:

Patterson: 13-6, 2.46 ERA, 25 SV, 102 G, 113.1 IP, 19.5 WS
Putnam: 12-9, 5.42 ERA, 2 SV, 54 G, 17 GS, 159.1 IP, 2.5 WS

And that doesn't touch on good relief seasons like 1957, 1967 and 1968.

One more batch of stats.

The 1961-65 Tigers were the second Tigers Dynasty under the exceptional duo of the calm General Manager David Lee and beloved Manager Kid Fite.

The Mighty Tigers, winners of the 1952-55 World Series, is among the most storied in league history. As the "mighty" implies, this club was famous for an offense led by the legendary Ray Kress, though it really was rotation coming together that turned a "disappointing" team into world beaters that put fear in the heart of contenders and World Series opponents.

The run of the 1962-64 Fite's Kids teams is less famous. They ran off three pennants on the trot with an upset World Title in the middle. Their offense wasn't as powerful, and they were famous in the era for the "Freaks" trio in their rotation: wicked control man Bill Lovely and the stingy duo of Joe Emig & Dick Sharkey who gave up the long ball at alarmingly low rates despite pitching half their games in the homer happy Tiger Stadium. The fourth member of the rotation was actually the most talented of the quartet and exempted from the tag of "Freak": power pitcher Perry Wanklen.

Despite that strong rotation, if you asked people at the time who was the "MVP" of the pitching staff, and frankly the entire team, in that era, they would have told you the lights out force that was John Patterson.

The Wins Shares to give a glimpse of why people thought that:

Code:

1961 Tigers (94-68 4th)
25.4 Patterson
24.1 Wanklen
19.1 Sharkey
14.6 Lovely
 7.8 Browne

1962 Tigers (103-60 AL Champs)
28.3 Emig
28.2 Wanklen
24.9 Sharkey
18.2 Lovely
12.1 Patterson

1963 Tigers (100-62 World Champs)
24.0 Patterson
23.8 Wanklen
21.3 Emig
16.9 Sharkey
16.4 Lovely

1964 Tigers (106-56 AL Champs)
25.0 Sharkey
23.8 Patterson
23.8 Emig
23.1 Wanklen
14.4 Lovely

1965 Tigers (101-61 2nd)
27.6 Wanklen
22.8 Patterson
17.7 De La Garza
14.4 Lovely
11.5 Sharkey
13.4 Bazer
 5.8 Childress

Wanklen obviously went on to big things with the Cards, Twins, Astros and O's. 1965 was the first of his three straight Murph Awards. He clearly was the best pitcher of this bunch.

Emig also went on to build a HOF case with the O's and Halos, making the post season as regularly as Wank seemed to... if not even more.

Yet if you look at that second Tigers Dynasty, Patterson doesn't take a back seat to anyone. He had one "off" year in five, which really wasn't that off - an injury limited him to less than a full year.

As Jeff points out, he was a beast in the post season. His performance in the 1963 Series was as good as any reliever in Series history as he was lights out against the best offense of the era, one with a reputation for abusing relievers once they chased starters from the game.

I advocate Granger for the HOF because he truly was the innovator in TWB for relievers to have long, strong and successful careers. I wish he'd gone in first before Patterson hit the ballot. But obviously Patterson was the best. He was the one pitcher in TWB history who consistently ranked with the best *starters* in the league in his prime.

John

haggis007 · 04-12-2008, 01:38 AM

Alan
Joyce
Thomas
Williams
Woodworth

Harrington
Patterson
Torbett

cogs1 · 04-12-2008, 09:51 PM

Roger Joyce
Henry Thomas
Henry Cruz
Jed Williams
Cal Granger
Hank Makris
John Patterson

Vris · 04-14-2008, 12:36 PM

Thomas
Alan
Williams
Woodworth
Joyce

Tjeenk-Willink
Makris
Putnam
Torbett

NCBeachBum · 04-15-2008, 01:33 AM

David Lawrence
Brock Putnam
Jed Williams

jeheinz72 · 04-15-2008, 02:28 PM

Cook
Lawrence
Alan
Williams
Tjeek-Willink
Granger
Putnam
Patterson
Torbett

knightni · 04-17-2008, 01:19 PM

Wil Woodworth
Grumpy Noel
Louis Schmit
Jim Alan
Roosevelt Wurth
Charley Harrington
Jed Williams
Harmon Dego
Theo Torbett
Roger Rembro

04-10-2008, 01:22 AM	#1
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Time Warp HOF Ballot 1981 This is the annual Time Warp Baseball League Hall of Fame thread. New to the ballot is the great centerfielder in league history. Have at it. John

04-10-2008, 01:24 AM	#5
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Batters Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): AVG: .364 Hits: 4000 HR: 607 RBI: 1906 2B: 665 BB: 2509 R: 2065 SB: 1297 Ben Cook, 3B/CF, Last Season: 1961 1722 H, 175 2B, 129 HR, 665 RBI, 1254 R 476 K, 1391 BB, 575 SB .260 AVG, .389 OBP, .371 SLG, .760 OPS OPS+: 114 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1955, 1956, 1957 Pennants: 1950, 1953, 1954, 1957, 1959 WS Victories: 1950, 1957, 1959 WS Record: .250/.342/.370/.712, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 16 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: Runs 2, SB 7, BB 5 Career Top 25: SB (19), BB (20) Final Year on Ballot: 1981 Wilford Woodworth, 3B, Last Season: 1965 1663 H, 305 2B, 408 HR, 1278 RBI, 1141 R 1286 K, 1051 BB, 57 SB .244 AVG, .350 OBP, .483 SLG, .833 OPS OPS+: 128 BOY Award: 1955 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1954, 1955 Pennants: 1956, 1959 WS Victories: 1956 WS Record: .150/.292/.275/.567, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 6 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: HR 1, SLG 1, TB 1 Career Top 25: HR (6) Final Year on Ballot: 1985 "Grumpy" Abraham Noel, 1B, Last Season: 1966 2799 H, 331 2B, 253 HR, 1346 RBI, 1248 R 1436 K, 1132 BB, 3 SB .294 AVG, .371 OBP, .416 SLG, .787 OPS OPS+: 122 BOY Award: 1959 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 All Pros: 1959, 1960 Pennants: 1956, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962 WS Victories: 1961, 1962 WS Record: .252/.328/.383/.711, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 14 R Batting Titles: 1959 Led League in: BA 1, OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, R 1, H 1, TB 1, RBI 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1986 Roger Joyce, SS, Last Season: 1967 2394 H, 341 2B, 109 HR, 837 RBI, 1128 R 746 K, 685 BB .312 AVG, .370 OBP, .416 SLG, .785 OPS OPS+: 122 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1956, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963 Pennants: 1956, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1966 WS Victories: 1961, 1962 WS Record: .240/.308/.339/.647, 2 HR, 7 RBI, 10 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: R 1, H 3 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1988 Lucien "Lulu" Arbour, LF, Last Season: 1969 2018 H, 315 2B, 214 HR, 1015 RBI, 1123 R 911 K, 538 BB, 443 SB .305 AVG, .357 OBP, .482 SLG, .839 OPS OPS+: 137 BOY Award: 1965 ROY Award: 1957 Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1965 Pennants: 1965, 1967 WS Victories: 1965 WS Record: .196/.212/.353/.564, 2 HR, 3 RBI, 6 R Batting Titles: 1965 Led League in: BA 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, R 1, H 1, 2B 2, 3B 2,, SB 2 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1989 Henry Thomas, CF, Last Season: 1970 2369 H, 367 2B, 285 HR, 1146 RBI, 1236 R 1402 K, 715 BB .292 AVG, .349 OBP, .446 SLG, .815 OPS OPS+: 131 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1960, 1963, 1964, 1965 Pennants: 1961, 1964, 1965 WS Victories: 1964 WS Record: .351/.390/.610/1.001, 6 HR, 16 RBI, 16 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 2 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1990 David Lawrence, 1B/3B/SS , Last Season: 1972 2352 H, 410 2B, 204 HR, 1190 RBI, 1170 R 1046 K, 922 BB .297 AVG, .372 OBP, .445 SLG, .817 OPS OPS+: 133 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1964 All Pros: 1967 (3B), 1968 (SS) Pennants: 1960, 1969 WS Victories: 1960, 1969 Post Season Record: .478/.500/.696/1.196 , 1 HR, 4 RBI, 4 R Batting Titles: 1970 Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1992 Jim Alan, RF/LF, Last Season: 1973 2247 H, 337 2B, 427 HR, 1396 RBI, 1271 R 1146 K, 886 BB .270 AVG, .340 OBP, .478 SLG, .818 OPS OPS+: 137 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1960, 1961, 1965, Divisions: 1971 Pennants: 1964, 1965, 1966 WS Victories: 1964 Post Season Record: .329/.366/.711/1.076, 7 HR, 20 RBI, 14 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: HR (1) Career Top 25: HR (9th) Final Year on Ballot: 1993 Henry Cruz, C, Last Season: 1973 2056 H, 247 2B, 153 HR, 955 RBI, 852 R 761 K, 558 BB .299 AVG, .350 OBP, .407 SLG, .757 OPS OPS+: 116 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1958 Gold Gloves: 1958, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1969 All Pros: 1960, 1961, 1963, 1965 Divisions: 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973 Pennants: 1960, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971 WS Victories: 1960, 1966, 1967 Post Season Record: .227/.269/.267/.535, 0 HR, 13 RBI, 7 R Batting Titles: 1969 Led League in: BA 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1993 Alberto Val, 2B, Last Season: 1973 2003 H, 342 2B, 104 HR, 1093 RBI, 743 R 805 K, 1007 BB .287 AVG, .376 OBP, .392 SLG, .768 OPS OPS+: 125 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1966 Divisions: 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973 Pennants: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1973 WS Victories: 1966, 1967, 1973 Post Season Record: .277/.323/.399/.721, 2 HR, 24 R, 18 RBI Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1994 NEW Jory Akridge, 1B, Last Season: 1975 1843 H, 268 2B, 295 HR, 1142 RBI, 994 R 1203 K, 567 BB, 234 SB .263 AVG, .321 OBP, .447 SLG, .768 OPS OPS+: 123 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1962 Gold Gloves: 1964, 1966 All Pros: 1966 Pennants: 1966 WS Victories: None WS Record: .333/.364/.810/1.173, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 5 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1995 Joe Corman, 3B/1B, Last Season: 1975 2118 H, 226 2B, 227 HR, 1118 RBI, 940 R 1051 K, 430 BB, 6 SB .305 AVG, .347 OBP, .445 SLG, .792 OPS OPS+: 131 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1970 (3B), 1971 (3B), 1972 (1B) Divisions: 1971 Pennants: 1966 WS Victories: NONE Post Season Record: .231/.279/.436/.715, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 6 R Batting Titles: 1972 Led League in: BA 1, H 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1995 Harmon Dego, 1B, Last Season: 1975 2432 H, 313 2B, 363 HR, 1410 RBI, 1122 R 949 K, 684 BB, 7 SB .277 AVG, .329 OBP, .443 SLG, .771 OPS OPS+: 122 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE All Pros: 1965, 1967 Divisions: 1970, 1973 Pennants: 1963, 1964, 1970 WS Victories: 1963, 1970 WS Record: .317/.330/.465/.795, 3 HR, 8 RBI, 10 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: HR (19th) Final Year on Ballot: 1995 Halan Edwards, 3B/1B, Last Season: 1975 2347 H, 291 2B, 319 HR, 1363 RBI, 1301 R 928 K, 795 BB, 17 SB .279 AVG, .342 OBP, .445 SLG, .788 OPS OPS+: 128 BOY Award: 1964 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE WS MVP: 1964 All Pros: 1964 (1B), 1966 (3B), 1969 (3B), 1972 (3B) Divisions: 1972 Pennants: 1964, 1965 WS Victories: 1964 WS Record: .364/.429/.527/.956, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 10 R Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 1, OPS 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1995 Jed Williams, CF, Last Season: 1974 2706 H, 469 2B, 332 HR, 1253 RBI, 1666 R 1253 K, 1361 BB, 57 SB .317 AVG, .411 OBP, .514 SLG, .925 OPS OPS+: 168 (3rd All-Time) BOY Award: 1960, 1965, 1966, 1969 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1961, 1967, 1971, 1972 All Pros: 1959-71 consecutively; 1960s All Decade Team Divisions: 1971, 1972, 1974 Pennants: 1963 WS Victories: None Post Season Record: .294/.342/.397/.740, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 6 R Batting Titles: 1966 Led League in: OBP 8, SLG 5, OPS 7, R 8, TB 3, 2B 2 Career Top 25: OPS (5th), BB (25th), R (16th) Final Year on Ballot: 1981 Last edited by jdw; 04-10-2008 at 05:46 PM.

04-10-2008, 01:25 AM	#7
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Bud Ulrich, Last Season: 1962, HOF Standard: 35 210-125, 62.7%, 3.88 ERA 3274.2 IP, 1411 BB, 2085 K, 73 CG, 16 SHO, 1.34 WHIP ERA+: 108 Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: 1949 All Pros: 1952, 1955 Pennants: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1959 World Championships: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1959 WS Record: 4-1, 4.77 ERA No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1983 Lex Tjeenk-Willink, Last Season: 1964, HOF Standard: 46 245-170, 59.0%, 3.79 ERA 3877 IP, 1287 BB, 3069 K, 121 CG, 19 SHO, 1.19 WHIP ERA+: 112 Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE All Pros: 1957 Pennants: NONE World Championships: NONE WS Record: N/A No-Hitters: 2 Led League in: Wins 1 Career Top 25: K's (10) Final Year on Ballot: 1985 Hank Makris, Last Season: 1964 214-173, 55.3%, 3.48 ERA 3634.0 IP, 1092 BB, 1563 K, 166 CG, 32 SHO, 1.28 WHIP ERA+: 124 Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE GG Award: 1953, 1958, 1961, 1963 WS MVP: 1957, 1959 All Pros: 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960 Pennants: 1957, 1959 World Championships: 1957, 1959 WS Record: 4-0, 0.82 ERA No-Hitters: 2 Led League in: SHO 2, Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1986 Cal Granger, Last Season: 1968 100-104, 49.0%, 3.53 ERA 1426.3 IP, 421 BB, 609 K, 390 SV ERA+: N/A Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: NONE All Pros: 1952, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1962, 1964; 1950s All Decade Team Pennants: 1951, 1957, 1958, 1963 World Championships: 1951, 1958 WS Record: 0-1, 3.49 ERA, 4 SV Led League in: SV 6, G 1 Career Top 25: SV (1), Appearances (1), Relief Innings (1) Final Year on Ballot: 1988 Brock Putnam, Last Season: 1971 187-106, 63.8%, 2.94 ERA 2869.7 IP, 601 BB, 1636 K, 180 CG, 36 SHO, 1.16 WHIP ERA+: 134 Murphy Award: 1960 ROY Award: 1960 GG Award: NONE All Pros: 1960, 1962, 1964 Pennants: 1960, 1961, 1962 World Championships: 1961, 1962 WS Record: 3-0, 2.92 ERA No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: W 1, IP 1, SHO 2 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1991 John Patterson, Last Season: 1972 121-73, 62.4%, 2.68 ERA 1301.3 IP, 192 BB, 872 K, 339 SV ERA+: N/A Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: NONE All Pros: 1959, 1961, 1963, 1964, 1965; 1960s All Decade Team Divisions: 1969, 1970, 1971 Pennants: 1955, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1968, 1970, 1971 World Championships: 1955, 1963 Post Season Record: 4-1, 2.19 ERA, 1 SV Led League in: SV 6, G 5 Career Top 25: SV (2), Appearances (2), Relief Innings (2) Final Year on Ballot: 1992 Louis Schmit, Last Season: 1972 244-178, 57.8%, 3.47 ERA 4007.0 IP, 1523 BB, 3528 K, 112 CG, 35 SHO, 1.20 WHIP ERA+: 118 Murphy Award: 1964, 1966 ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: 1964 All Pros: 1964, 1966 Divisions: 1969 Pennants: 1964, 1965 World Championships: 1964 Post Season Record: 3-2, 3.69 ERA No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: ERA 1, W 2, W% 1, SHO 2, K 1 Career Top 25: K (7) Final Year on Ballot: 1992 Roosevelt Wurth, Last Season: 1973 222-149, 59.8%, 3.60 ERA 3543.2 IP, 416 BB, 2065 K, 179 CG, 16 SHO, 1.11 WHIP ERA+: 111 Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: NONE All Pros: NONE Divisions: 1973 Pennants: 1959, 1965, 1973 World Championships: 1973 Post Season Record: 0-2, 4.13 ERA No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: W% 1, CG 1, WHIP 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1993 Charley Harrington, Last Season: 1974 246-182, 57.5%, 3.32 ERA 3972.0 IP, 1325 BB, 3437 K, 73 CG, 14 SHO, 1.15 WHIP ERA+: 125 Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: NONE All Pros: 1966 Divisions: 1971 Pennants: 1966 World Championships: NONE Post Season Record: 0-1, 5.69 ERA No-Hitters: 1 (Perfect Game) Led League in: W 1, W% 1, K 1 Career Top 25: K 11 Final Year on Ballot: 1994 NEW Theo Torbett, Last Season: 1975 252-169, 59.9%, 3.19 ERA 4055.0 IP, 780 BB, 2848 K, 116 CG, 26 SHO, 1.09 WHIP ERA+: 124 Murphy Award: 1961 ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: NONE All Pros: 1960, 1961, 1962 Divisions: 1969 Pennants: 1963, 1969 WS Victories: 1969 Post Season Record: 2-2, 1.82 ERA No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: W 1 Career Top 25: K (21st) Final Year on Ballot: 1995 Roger Rembro, Last Season: 1975 223-143, 60.9%, 3.48 ERA 3368.0 IP, 744 BB, 1860 K, 145 CG, 23 SHO, 1.19 WHIP ERA+: 115 Murphy Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE GG Award: NONE WS MVP: NONE All Pros: 1967 Divisions: 1971 Pennants: 1958, 1965, 1967 WS Victories: 1958, 1965 Post Season Record: 1-2, 3.38 ERA No-Hitters: 1 Led League in: SHO 1 Career Top 25: NONE Final Year on Ballot: 1995 Last edited by jdw; 04-10-2008 at 05:44 PM.

04-10-2008, 05:36 PM	#10
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04-11-2008, 12:31 PM	#13
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,117	Henry Thomas Jim Alan Lex Tjeenk-Willink Hank Makris Brock Putnam John Patterson Oh, and I guess Jed Williams too. I'd like to say a few words to those who may not be familiar with John Patterson. This guy is quite possibly the greatest relief pitcher in Time Warp history. Maybe that doesn't mean a lot to you, since it's really only been in the modern era that relievers gained much notoriety, but Patterson is one of the greats. Here's a guy that threw over 80 innings in 9 of 11 years through the prime of his career, over 100 twice. A 4.5:1 K:BB ratio for his career. 121 wins as a reliever, including a 14-4 mark in 1961 with 34 saves. His career save totals were harmed by his trade to Pittsburgh late in his career, where he helped mentor a player that would eventually pass him in career saves, Lynn Willmon. He was also one of the great postseason pitchers of all time, not allowing even a single run in his first three trips to the postseason, which covered 11 innings. In the 1963 World Series, he threw 6.2 innings over 4 games, allowed 6 hits, walked none and struck out 3, winning 2 games and picking up a save. He had just one bad postseason, in 1968, though it was arguably one of his better seasons: 4-4, 9 saves, a 1.50 ERA in 54 innings, in which he struck out 31 and walked just 6 batters. Consider his 1965 campaign for the Detroit Tigers: 8-3, 26 saves, 75 games, 94 innings, 81 strikeouts. How many did he walk in those 94 innings? Four. Four batters walked. He had 5 seasons in which he pitched at least 50 innings and walked fewer than 10 batters. Please consider giving him your vote. __________________ Jeff Watson Former dynasty writer and online league player, now mostly retired

04-10-2008, 01:23 AM	#2
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04-10-2008, 08:03 AM	#8
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04-10-2008, 05:54 PM	#12
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