First OOTP 9 Screenshots!! - Page 2

Markus Heinsohn · 04-11-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

One little interface observation...the Font in this version appears very different from the SI versions. Why did you change it? I thought the lettering looked very "clean" before. Also, the tabs look different, not like something you would "depress" as in the current version, but rather something that just appears when you put the arrow over it. Is the hand still in place too?

The font is the same font, but it's not bolded anymore in many cases, resulting in a much cleaner look. The changing mouse cursors are still there

Dagrims · 04-11-2008, 11:13 AM

The use of sliders for the scouting budget is a very welcome addition.

cuervo72 · 04-11-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

But that's not how these lists work in real life... that's the reason we changed it

Also, we could now use this info in news articles.

Note to Markus - often "real life" does not equal "most fun" or "most useful". I think the Top 100 once per season works fine in 1982, when you have to factor in compiling the list, printing, distribution, etc. For utility, I think an updated list works better.

treedom · 04-11-2008, 11:43 AM

How does scouting work if you have financials off?

treedom · 04-11-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Note to Markus - often "real life" does not equal "most fun" or "most useful". I think the Top 100 once per season works fine in 1982, when you have to factor in compiling the list, printing, distribution, etc. For utility, I think an updated list works better.

I agree. I have a hard time seeing how doing something at a reduced interval over the last version can be called a feature.

PSUColonel · 04-11-2008, 11:50 AM

So in all of this, do you no longer send out scouts to look a individual players, teams, etc...?

lindhsky · 04-11-2008, 11:59 AM

Any chance of showing what the good stuff for online league's are? It would be easier to convince the gm's in my league to go from OOTP8 to 9 if there were some sort of game-viewer for them, so they can enjoy some of the play by play and some of the excitement that I get to enjoy as a commish.

Or perhaps just a chance to dump play by play from selected games into html-files, inning by inning.

Well, either way, very nice looking screens. I love the scouting-reports and I like that the top 100 list is released once a year and that it will be written in the history for the players. Amazing stuff!

Chris Johnson · 04-11-2008, 12:06 PM

Add me to the list of people who think changing the top 100 from the way it currently works is - problematic to say the least. Why change what I have heard or read zero complaints about? Scratches head...

pstrickert · 04-11-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

But that's not how these lists work in real life... that's the reason we changed it

Also, we could now use this info in news articles.

I think this makes sense (whether or not everyone agrees with the decision). The value of being able to use the information in news articles, too, should not be underestimated. Thank you, Markus.

Markus Heinsohn · 04-11-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by treedom

How does scouting work if you have financials off?

Then your scouting director's skills are the only factor...

Markus Heinsohn · 04-11-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Johnson

Add me to the list of people who think changing the top 100 from the way it currently works is - problematic to say the least. Why change what I have heard or read zero complaints about? Scratches head...

Oh, I have read many complaints about the previous way it was implemented...

cuervo72 · 04-11-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

I think this makes sense (whether or not everyone agrees with the decision). The value of being able to use the information in news articles, too, should not be underestimated. Thank you, Markus.

While we're on news articles, a couple of suggestions.

This is the team page for my AAA team: Las Vegas Fates (AAA) Home Page

The 'News' box contains a headline "Hot Bat of Mckissick Burns Machines". Mckissick retired at the end of last year.

The third headline under "breaking news" is from April 28, 2028. The in-game date is now 6-18-2029.

Also, I think it would be nice if headlines on your team's page would be a little more...homerish. My team is currently mediocre, and it doesn't help to see things like "Player X Hits 500th HR", "Smokey Joe lights up LAS for Five Hits", etc. on the page for your team. It may be true, but it's darned depressing. Take Hollywood's page:

Hollywood Media Whores Home Page

Saturday, June 9th, 2029: Portland Whitewashes Media Whores
Friday, June 8th, 2029: Arden Maple Injured, Out of Lineup
Saturday, May 26th, 2029: Zullo Goes 5-5 Against Hollywood

Two butt-kickings and an injury (and injuries seem to be selective - I had my starting C go out for 7 weeks and there was nary a mention in the news). No wonder Shaw is always angry...

Stats_Enthusiast · 04-11-2008, 12:43 PM

MH,

Great job! Someone in your position can never hear that enough (IMHO).

I think it's looks great and I know it will play great.

I'm buying two copies (maybe three) because I use two different computers AND I owe a copy to someone for their help with my "Out Of The Box" template.

Can't wait for the pre-order.

Cheers.

Adam

endgame · 04-11-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Oh well, I guess I can't please everyone

Can't you feel the love, Markus? Ever feel as well received as an Olympic torch?

ctorg · 04-11-2008, 12:50 PM

I definitely prefer the top 100 list being a once-a-year thing. I actually don't like it being dynamic. I like the idea of being able to click on it and see who was predicted to be the best, and looking to see what changes have happened and how they really did.

I like the realism of it, too. I understand the utility argument, but I'd prefer realism in this case. I don't find it plausible that I would know on a constant basis who would be considered the top 100 prospects. It really is something you should only get once a year.

English_Ray · 04-11-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I definitely prefer the top 100 list being a once-a-year thing. I actually don't like it being dynamic. I like the idea of being able to click on it and see who was predicted to be the best, and looking to see what changes have happened and how they really did.

I like the realism of it, too. I understand the utility argument, but I'd prefer realism in this case. I don't find it plausible that I would know on a constant basis who would be considered the top 100 prospects. It really is something you should only get once a year.

^^^What he said

asurob · 04-11-2008, 12:55 PM

Looks KICK ASS! I cannot wait to get my hands on this. I am glad to see the once a year top 100 thing. The other way was annoying

. Do you have a target date for pre-order yet? CC burning

a hole in my pocket.

Erik W. · 04-11-2008, 12:58 PM

Yeah, I like the once-a-year thing as well.

People have lodged many complaints about the game being too easy, and getting up-to-the-second mega-accurate reports doesn't help. But more than that, I just like the realism of the new prospect list.

pstrickert · 04-11-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

While we're on news articles, a couple of suggestions.

This is the team page for my AAA team: Las Vegas Fates (AAA) Home Page

The 'News' box contains a headline "Hot Bat of Mckissick Burns Machines". Mckissick retired at the end of last year.

The third headline under "breaking news" is from April 28, 2028. The in-game date is now 6-18-2029.

Also, I think it would be nice if headlines on your team's page would be a little more...homerish. My team is currently mediocre, and it doesn't help to see things like "Player X Hits 500th HR", "Smokey Joe lights up LAS for Five Hits", etc. on the page for your team. It may be true, but it's darned depressing. Take Hollywood's page:

Hollywood Media Whores Home Page

Saturday, June 9th, 2029: Portland Whitewashes Media Whores
Friday, June 8th, 2029: Arden Maple Injured, Out of Lineup
Saturday, May 26th, 2029: Zullo Goes 5-5 Against Hollywood

Two butt-kickings and an injury (and injuries seem to be selective - I had my starting C go out for 7 weeks and there was nary a mention in the news). No wonder Shaw is always angry...

Thanks for the input. This is something you ought to post in the in-game subforum, though.

cuervo72 · 04-11-2008, 01:05 PM

Well if the Top 100 is fighting a losing cause (though I do wonder if baseball is possibly behind on this, I'd think outfits like Rivals constantly update lists in other sports), can we have confirmation that the Top Prospects for your team will be updated, or is that also static because of the BA tie-in?

04-11-2008, 11:13 AM	#22
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	The use of sliders for the scouting budget is a very welcome addition. __________________ "Read books, get brain."

04-11-2008, 11:43 AM	#24
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	How does scouting work if you have financials off? __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

04-11-2008, 12:06 PM	#28
Chris Johnson Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 360	Add me to the list of people who think changing the top 100 from the way it currently works is - problematic to say the least. Why change what I have heard or read zero complaints about? Scratches head... __________________ IOSBL - Commissioner & Jacksonville Sharks TLB - Los Angeles Dodgers APBL - Tampa Bay Devil Rays

04-11-2008, 12:43 PM	#33
Stats_Enthusiast Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 295	MH, Great job! Someone in your position can never hear that enough (IMHO). I think it's looks great and I know it will play great. I'm buying two copies (maybe three) because I use two different computers AND I owe a copy to someone for their help with my "Out Of The Box" template. Can't wait for the pre-order. Cheers. Adam __________________ "Keep on rockin in the free world" - Neil Young ____________________ MLB - A's NFL - Bears

04-11-2008, 12:50 PM	#35
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I definitely prefer the top 100 list being a once-a-year thing. I actually don't like it being dynamic. I like the idea of being able to click on it and see who was predicted to be the best, and looking to see what changes have happened and how they really did. I like the realism of it, too. I understand the utility argument, but I'd prefer realism in this case. I don't find it plausible that I would know on a constant basis who would be considered the top 100 prospects. It really is something you should only get once a year. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

04-11-2008, 11:50 AM	#26
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,106	So in all of this, do you no longer send out scouts to look a individual players, teams, etc...?

04-11-2008, 11:59 AM	#27
lindhsky Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9	Any chance of showing what the good stuff for online league's are? It would be easier to convince the gm's in my league to go from OOTP8 to 9 if there were some sort of game-viewer for them, so they can enjoy some of the play by play and some of the excitement that I get to enjoy as a commish. Or perhaps just a chance to dump play by play from selected games into html-files, inning by inning. Well, either way, very nice looking screens. I love the scouting-reports and I like that the top 100 list is released once a year and that it will be written in the history for the players. Amazing stuff!

04-11-2008, 12:55 PM	#37
asurob Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 140	Looks KICK ASS! I cannot wait to get my hands on this. I am glad to see the once a year top 100 thing. The other way was annoying . Do you have a target date for pre-order yet? CC burning a hole in my pocket.

04-11-2008, 12:58 PM	#38
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Yeah, I like the once-a-year thing as well. People have lodged many complaints about the game being too easy, and getting up-to-the-second mega-accurate reports doesn't help. But more than that, I just like the realism of the new prospect list. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

04-11-2008, 01:05 PM	#40
cuervo72 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	Well if the Top 100 is fighting a losing cause (though I do wonder if baseball is possibly behind on this, I'd think outfits like Rivals constantly update lists in other sports), can we have confirmation that the Top Prospects for your team will be updated, or is that also static because of the BA tie-in? __________________ FOBL - Owner, Las Vegas Lightning FOFL - Owner, Bar Harbor Whitecaps IHOF - Owner, Frederick Red Menace, Former NAC President