NFL Offseason Stuff

[Papi 54]

With free agency and the NFL Draft looming, all of the teams in the NFL will look to pick up the pieces they need to make a push for next year. Right now my favorite rumor is Asante Samuel being signed by the Eagles and Lito Sheppard being traded to the Patriots. I heard that on SI.com. As far as the draft goes, it is looking increasingly hard for any of the top ten picks to be traded, especially is the Cowboys have lost interest in Darren McFadden. Let's hope the Patriots find a suitor for the #7 pick and don't waste is on Vernon Gholston, ew.

[marc]

Originally Posted by Papi 54

With free agency and the NFL Draft looming, all of the teams in the NFL will look to pick up the pieces they need to make a push for next year. Right now my favorite rumor is Asante Samuel being signed by the Eagles and Lito Sheppard being traded to the Patriots. I heard that on SI.com. As far as the draft goes, it is looking increasingly hard for any of the top ten picks to be traded, especially is the Cowboys have lost interest in Darren McFadden. Let's hope the Patriots find a suitor for the #7 pick and don't waste is on Vernon Gholston, ew.

What is wrong with Gholston? Other than the fact that he would be a perfect fit for the Pats 3-4 scheme and that he's an athletic freak who was the only player in the last 3 years to dominate Michigan OL Jake Long?

[Big Hugg]

I hope they don't "waste" it on him either.

I want him to fall to 9.

[mikev]

Originally Posted by marc

What is wrong with Gholston? Other than the fact that he would be a perfect fit for the Pats 3-4 scheme and that he's an athletic freak who was the only player in the last 3 years to dominate Michigan OL Jake Long?

He's not Patrick Willis.

[marc]

Originally Posted by mikev

He's not Patrick Willis.

True, but that only makes him Jesus to Willis's God.

You best believe Big Vern is gonna have his own thread on here at some point.

[Papi 54]

OSU players are almost always overrated heading into the NFL. He's sick, yes, but overrated.

My mock draft, by the way:

1- MIA - QB Matt Ryan
2 - STL - OT Jake Long
3 - ATL - DT Glenn Dorsey
4 - OAK - RB Darren McFadden
5 - KC - CB Mike Jenkins
6 - NYJ - DE Chris Long
7 - PHI (f. NE for Lito Sheppard, 1st, 4th) - DE Vernon Gholston
8 - DAL (f. BAL for both 1st) - OT Ryan Clady
9 - CIN - DT Sedrick Ellis
#10 - NO - CB Leodis McKelvin
#11 - BUF - CB Aqib Talib
#12 - DEN - OT Jeff Otah
#13 - CAR - WR Malcolm Kelly
#14 - CHI - OT Chris Williams
#15 - DET - RB Jonathan Stewart
#16 - ARI - OT Sam Baker
#17 - MIN - WR DeSean Jackson
#18 - HOU - RB Rashard Mendenhall
#19 - NE (f. PHI) - OLB/DE Derrick Harvey
#20 - TB - CB Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie
#21 - WAS - DE Calais Campbell
#22 - BAL (f. DAL) - LB Keith Rivers
#23 - PIT - OT Gosder Cherilus
#24 - TEN - WR Mario Manningham
#25 - SEA - RB Felix Jones
#26 - JAX - DE Philip Merling
#27 - SD - S Kenny Phillips
#28 - BAL (f. DAL) - QB Brian Brohm
#29 - SF - WR James Hardy
#30 - GB - TE Fred Davis
#31 - NYG - LB Dan Conner

[marc]

Originally Posted by Papi 54

OSU players are almost always overrated heading into the NFL. He's sick, yes, but overrated.

lol How do you figure that? The bust rate on OSU 1st round picks historically is absurdly low. If anything, OSU prospects are among the safest bets of any school out there. Scouts aren't dumb, if OSU prospects were overrated and consistently bombed, they wouldn't keep taking them in record numbers.

I don't see anything overrated about being the 2nd best player (and most versatile) at one of the most important positions on the field.

If you want an overrated OSU NFL prospect go ahead and wait until next year when Laurinaitis goes somewhere in the 5-7 range overall.

[jbergey22]

Apparently the Vikings have dealt WR Troy Williamson for Jacksonville for a 6th round pick. This could go down as steal of the year for the Vikings. I cant believe the vikings found someone stupid enough to take him.

[mikev]

I don't think the Niners go WR with thier 1st rounder.

[jbergey22]

I dont think Chris Long will slip. His combine was impressive.

[Zoso1515]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I cant believe found someone stupid enough to take him.

lol this is what i thought when they took him in the first round

[marc]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I dont think Chris Long will slip. His combine was impressive.

Chris Long = stud. Can't see him falling past #4.

I know he played in a 3-4 in college but I don't see him fitting in well with the Parcells 3-4 scheme at Miami. Parcells likes DE's in the 290-300 lbs range that take up space and blockers and it would actually be a total waste of Long's skills to play him there. Not sure he can make the transition to OLB in that scheme so it will be interesting to see if the Dolphins feel that he can.

I definitely can't see the Rams, Falcons, and Raiders all passing on him.

[Papi 54]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I dont think Chris Long will slip. His combine was impressive.

I don't really consider him slipping, just the teams there not needing him. The big difference is how St. Louis plays it, DL or OL.

As far as the 49ers go, with receivers having little difference between them in the first, I could agree with them letting it slide to the later rounds, but who would they take at #29? OL? DB?

[Cryomaniac]

I can't see Miami drafting a QB, although John Beck was hardly impressive when he played. Defense would probably be a good start for the Dolphins.

[kenyan_cheena]

I thought this would be another mgom thread when I saw the title.