2007-08 NHL Thread... - Page 41

Muppetus Galacticus · 02-26-2008, 11:45 AM

To DAL: Brad Richards and Johan Holmqvist

To TB: Mike Smith, Jusse Jokinen and Jeff Halpern

Bluenoser · 02-26-2008, 11:45 AM

Smith, Jokinen, Halpern for Richards & Holmqvist.

Bluenoser · 02-26-2008, 11:50 AM

Christobal Huet to Washington for a 2nd.

I think this is leading up to something else.

Muppetus Galacticus · 02-26-2008, 11:50 AM

To the Caps: Cristobal Huet

To the Habs: 2nd round pick

Confirmed.

Erik W. · 02-26-2008, 11:50 AM

Holy crap. Huet to the Caps for a second round pick.

Edit: Muppet and BruceM beat me to it.

Long_Long_Name · 02-26-2008, 11:52 AM

My brother's pissed that it was only a 2nd round pick. They were in good position, from what I've heard, to sign him at the end of the year.

Elendil · 02-26-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Well, if it's a rental, I don't think it's worth it. I hate rental players, I really do, I'd rarely get one if I was a GM. In any case, I was assuming San Jose would re-sign Campbell, if they don't I think it's not fantastic.

Well, word is that Campbell will demand $6 million for 5+ years. I haven't heard anything to suggest he would take anything less than market value from SJ, but I guess we'll see.

Erik W. · 02-26-2008, 11:54 AM

I'm kind of shocked. It seems to be a cheap return for a good goalie, and I'm not sure Price is ready to take the reins of a playoff contender.

Elendil · 02-26-2008, 11:54 AM

Wow, an arms race in the West. As if the disparity between conferences weren't big enough...

Bluenoser · 02-26-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

My brother's pissed that it was only a 2nd round pick. They were in good position, from what I've heard, to sign him at the end of the year.

True, they probably could have resigned him, but this trade doesn't surprise me at all. Carey Price is their goalie of the future and it would have been tough next year with two #1's. I like that they made this move, but think they could have gotten a decent prospect along with the pick.

I guess this means that Ollie the Goalie won't be resigned as he's a UFA after this season.

Long_Long_Name · 02-26-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

I wouldn't describe myself as "pissed." Just kind of shocked. It seems to be a cheap return for a good goalie, and I'm not sure Price is ready to take the reins of a playoff contender.

Is Cristobal good, or is he just a fluke? That's a legitimate question, I think. If José Théodore can have a Hart-level season and fall down to Earth, Cristobal Huet can sink back to his LA-level.

If Bob Gainey and Roland Melanson saw things the didn't like in Huet and didn't intend to re-sign him, this isn't a bad return for it. Not a great return, but it beats nothing. Timmins can do wonders with a 2nd round pick

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Muppetus Galacticus · 02-26-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

I'm kind of shocked. It seems to be a cheap return for a good goalie, and I'm not sure Price is ready to take the reins of a playoff contender.

I can't see them giving up what it would take to get both Hossa AND Lehtenon out of Atlanta. What of Heeeeeeeedbeeeeeeeeeerg? What other goalies are out there if they have something else in the works? Roloson? Surely not Gerber or Khabibulin

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Originally Posted by Elendil

Wow, an arms race in the West. As if the disparity between conferences weren't big enough...

The West is ****ing insane!

Big Hugg · 02-26-2008, 12:00 PM

So Tampa gives up Richards to get Marc Denis Version 2.0 when they could have gotten Huet for a 2nd round pick?

And yes, I'm just bitter because the CBJ didn't get Richards.

Long_Long_Name · 02-26-2008, 12:02 PM

I want to comment on the Brad Richards trade.

Tampa had to move him. Seriously. The team was so top-heavy (and still is), that they needed room for depth. However... I'm not convinced they got enough in return. Halpern and Jokinen aren't enough, and Mike Smith is yet another ordinary goalie in Tampa.

Erik W. · 02-26-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Is Cristobal good, or is he just a fluke? That's a legitimate question, I think. If José Théodore can have a Hart-level season and fall down to Earth, Cristobal Huet can sink back to his LA-level.

If Bob Gainey and Roland Melanson saw things the didn't like in Huet and didn't intend to re-sign him, this isn't a bad return for it. Not a great return, but it beats nothing. Timmins can do wonders with a 2nd round pick

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No, sure, I get why they did it. They like Price more for the future and wanted something in return for Huet. It makes sense. But it also reeks of giving up on the Cup hopes for this season, and I also have a hard time believing they couldn't get something more for him.

Long_Long_Name · 02-26-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

I can't see them giving up what it would take to get both Hossa AND Lehtenon out of Atlanta. What of Heeeeeeeedbeeeeeeeeeerg? What other goalies are out there if they have something else in the works? Roloson? Surely not Gerber or Khabibulin

I don't think the Habs are after Lehtonen. Roloson would be a good fit, and that's probably why we heard about him. Khabibulin was set to become a Canadien a few years ago, but he was to be traded along with Aucoin, who got injured before the deal was officially made.

Bluenoser · 02-26-2008, 12:05 PM

Given that Smith is only 25 and has played a grand total of 44 NHL games, I'll reserve judgement on him until he's been a full time starter for a season or two. With a few exceptions, most goalies don't blossom at that young an age.

Elendil · 02-26-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I want to comment on the Brad Richards trade.

Tampa had to move him. Seriously. The team was so top-heavy (and still is), that they needed room for depth. However... I'm not convinced they got enough in return. Halpern and Jokinen aren't enough, and Mike Smith is yet another ordinary goalie in Tampa.

I thought so too at first, but Smith's stats are pretty good, and he's young and cheap. In terms of a salary dump, this was a good move for one of the worst teams in the league.

Long_Long_Name · 02-26-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Given that Smith is only 25 and has played a grand total of 44 NHL games, I'll reserve judgement on him until he's been a full time starter for a season or two. With a few exceptions, most goalies don't blossom at that young an age.

According to hockeydb, he's never, in the juniors, the AHL or ECHL, had a save percentage higher than 91.7%. That's decent in the NHL, but not fantastic in the AHL. Anyway, sure, he could pan out, but it's not too inspiring.

Muppetus Galacticus · 02-26-2008, 12:14 PM

Halek has been called up from Hamilton. Could that just be for tonight or will they really stick with Price leading them into the playoffs?

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Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	I'm kind of shocked. It seems to be a cheap return for a good goalie, and I'm not sure Price is ready to take the reins of a playoff contender. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

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Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	I want to comment on the Brad Richards trade. Tampa had to move him. Seriously. The team was so top-heavy (and still is), that they needed room for depth. However... I'm not convinced they got enough in return. Halpern and Jokinen aren't enough, and Mike Smith is yet another ordinary goalie in Tampa. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

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Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,526	Smith, Jokinen, Halpern for Richards & Holmqvist.

02-26-2008, 11:50 AM	#803
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,526	Christobal Huet to Washington for a 2nd. I think this is leading up to something else.

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Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	So Tampa gives up Richards to get Marc Denis Version 2.0 when they could have gotten Huet for a 2nd round pick? And yes, I'm just bitter because the CBJ didn't get Richards.

02-26-2008, 12:05 PM	#817
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,526	Given that Smith is only 25 and has played a grand total of 44 NHL games, I'll reserve judgement on him until he's been a full time starter for a season or two. With a few exceptions, most goalies don't blossom at that young an age.