Computer makes strange decisions..

AsTrOFaN · 03-24-2003, 05:31 PM

On 2/13/07, Arizona signs Nick Neugebauer to a 3 year, $1.55 mil per year deal. Then, on 3/31/07, just out of the blue, they decide to release him. Its not very logical. True, he would be in the hunt for the #5 starting job (Arizona's #5 has the same ERA rating as Neugebauer), but they could have just kept him as trade bait or something. 26 year old starters shouldn't be cut right after signing contracts. Kind of unusual..

Steve Kuffrey · 03-24-2003, 05:32 PM

Did he refuse assignment possibly?

AsTrOFaN · 03-24-2003, 05:35 PM

Doesn't say so in his player history..Maybe its because he has no endurance as a reliever, and thus, no "use" to Arizona?

AsTrOFaN · 03-24-2003, 05:38 PM

They just randomly released 6 guys on that day, 2 of whom have 6 ERA ratings and are starters and 1 who has a 6 ERA rating and is a reliever. Arizona did not even attempt to send them to the minors, just flat out cut them.

asamford · 03-24-2003, 06:11 PM

maybe they talked smack about the AI Owner in the AI Press...

AsTrOFaN · 03-25-2003, 06:19 PM

Even stranger .. Philly just released Jose Contreras, who was signed in the offseason to a deal for 3 years worth about 3 million per. He has an ERA rating of 7, which would make him the Phillies 3/4 starter. Their #5 starter has an ERA rating of 3. They sent him down to the minors, and he accepted the demotion. Yet, they cut him a few weeks later. They could at least cut him at the end of the season or something, in case he would be needed (which, he would have been since their #2 starter went out for 3 weeks 10 days after he was cut)...

Anyone else getting strange AI moves ?

captainstarball · 03-25-2003, 06:24 PM

I think the problem is the AI doesn't try very hard to trade a player when he refuses assignment to the minors. I have seen teams drop players they might not necessarily need on their majors roster with a few million dollar contract but could probably have easily traded.

Rockpile · 03-25-2003, 08:25 PM

They probably did try to "trade" him to the other computer teams looking for starters...

I Am The Game · 03-25-2003, 08:32 PM

Maybe it's just poor planning. They sign these guys, then maybe sign a couple more or make a trade or two, and then they are in money problems and need to cut guys. Remember, there's reason it's called Artificial Intelligence, they don't think like we do. As much as Markus is trying to code it so the game thinks more like we do, it just can't happen. So while trying to trade someone, even for a fringe prospect just to get something for him seems great to us, the AI might think "We didn't get anything worth him", not thinking the "I'll take that just to get something for him" logic.

03-24-2003, 05:31 PM	#1
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	Computer makes strange decisions.. On 2/13/07, Arizona signs Nick Neugebauer to a 3 year, $1.55 mil per year deal. Then, on 3/31/07, just out of the blue, they decide to release him. Its not very logical. True, he would be in the hunt for the #5 starting job (Arizona's #5 has the same ERA rating as Neugebauer), but they could have just kept him as trade bait or something. 26 year old starters shouldn't be cut right after signing contracts. Kind of unusual..

03-24-2003, 05:32 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,035	Did he refuse assignment possibly? __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-24-2003, 05:35 PM	#3
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	Doesn't say so in his player history..Maybe its because he has no endurance as a reliever, and thus, no "use" to Arizona?

03-24-2003, 05:38 PM	#4
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	They just randomly released 6 guys on that day, 2 of whom have 6 ERA ratings and are starters and 1 who has a 6 ERA rating and is a reliever. Arizona did not even attempt to send them to the minors, just flat out cut them.

03-24-2003, 06:11 PM	#5
asamford Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 1,769	maybe they talked smack about the AI Owner in the AI Press...

03-25-2003, 06:19 PM	#6
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	Even stranger .. Philly just released Jose Contreras, who was signed in the offseason to a deal for 3 years worth about 3 million per. He has an ERA rating of 7, which would make him the Phillies 3/4 starter. Their #5 starter has an ERA rating of 3. They sent him down to the minors, and he accepted the demotion. Yet, they cut him a few weeks later. They could at least cut him at the end of the season or something, in case he would be needed (which, he would have been since their #2 starter went out for 3 weeks 10 days after he was cut)... Anyone else getting strange AI moves ?

03-25-2003, 06:24 PM	#7
captainstarball Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 112	I think the problem is the AI doesn't try very hard to trade a player when he refuses assignment to the minors. I have seen teams drop players they might not necessarily need on their majors roster with a few million dollar contract but could probably have easily traded.

03-25-2003, 08:25 PM	#8
Rockpile All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 620	They probably did try to "trade" him to the other computer teams looking for starters...

03-25-2003, 08:32 PM	#9
I Am The Game All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 691	Maybe it's just poor planning. They sign these guys, then maybe sign a couple more or make a trade or two, and then they are in money problems and need to cut guys. Remember, there's reason it's called Artificial Intelligence, they don't think like we do. As much as Markus is trying to code it so the game thinks more like we do, it just can't happen. So while trying to trade someone, even for a fringe prospect just to get something for him seems great to us, the AI might think "We didn't get anything worth him", not thinking the "I'll take that just to get something for him" logic.