NC Football Game

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by jarmenia

Because Florida already has difficult schedule. They only truly gimmie games they play are the non confrence games. Can't say that about the Big Ten.

This is the argument that makes everyone hate the SEC .... they act like they don't have an off week in conference because it is so tough


Kentucky
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Alabama (recently)
Ole Miss
Mississippi St.

Should all be off weeks to a good team.

Instead SEC fans act as though USC is the worst team in their conference and every week is a life and death struggle against the greatest team ever to strap on a helmet.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Because the game meant nothing to Florida. I didn't even watch. Half the people I know that live and die Florida didn't watch. It was an exhibition game that meant little to us. We didn't care. Florida didn't care. Fans in Orlando didn't go to the game. The game meant zero, zilch, nada to us. Like I said, try playing Florida with something on the line.

Quality fans there .... only show up when your team is good?

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Quality fans there .... only show up when your team is good?

No, we show up when the game means something. A regular season game means something. This was an exhibition that didn't mean anything. The fact that we lost and still didn't get jumped in the rankings should show that.

[Go Tribe]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Because the game meant nothing to Florida. I didn't even watch. Half the people I know that live and die Florida didn't watch. It was an exhibition game that meant little to us. We didn't care. Florida didn't care. Fans in Orlando didn't go to the game. The game meant zero, zilch, nada to us. Like I said, try playing Florida with something on the line.

here's the thing...

when i bring up the big ten's WINNING record in bowl games against the SEC, the sec fans i know all say 'well yeah that's because you're counting the south carolina's and mississippi's - but if you just look at the top 2 sec against the top 2 big ten, blah blah blah

but then they claim those 'south carolina's and mississippi's' as their 'tough sec schedule'.

can't have it both ways - either they are cupcakes for us and for you, or tough games for both.

also - people bring up our 0-9 record against the sec in bowl games - if florida fans only count games that matter, why aren't we really just 0-2 against the sec? do you think losing back to back bowl games against south carolina MATTERED? maybe we should just slough them off as easily as you did losing to the team that lost to appy state?

[Go Tribe]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

The fact that we lost and still didn't get jumped in the rankings should show that.

you fell in every poll 4 or more spots.... not sure what you're talking about, maybe you don't either

guess voters arent dumb enough to believe in that same 'bowl games don't matter' fallacy

[jarmenia]

Originally Posted by Go Tribe

here's the thing...

when i bring up the big ten's WINNING record in bowl games against the SEC, the sec fans i know all say 'well yeah that's because you're counting the south carolina's and mississippi's - but if you just look at the top 2 sec against the top 2 big ten, blah blah blah

but then they claim those 'south carolina's and mississippi's' as their 'tough sec schedule'.

can't have it both ways - either they are cupcakes for us and for you, or tough games for both.

also - people bring up our 0-9 record against the sec in bowl games - if florida fans only count games that matter, why aren't we really just 0-2 against the sec? do you think losing back to back bowl games against south carolina MATTERED? maybe we should just slough them off as easily as you did losing to the team that lost to appy state?

Its a lot more difficult to beat South Carolina after playing LSU, Georgia, and Auburn in consecutive weeks than it is when you play them with 5 weeks to prepare. Its not that USoC is a super power but if you compare the worst teams in the SEC to the worst teams in other conferences the SEC teams are much better.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

No, we show up when the game means something. A regular season game means something. This was an exhibition that didn't mean anything. The fact that we lost and still didn't get jumped in the rankings should show that.

No game after the third game of the season really mattered for ND this year but our fans kept showing up, sold out every home and road game. 60,000 showed up for the spring game which was an exhibition ... but you know Florida fans only show up for a bowl game if it's the national championship because all the others are just exhibition games.

Once again great fans!

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by jarmenia

Its a lot more difficult to beat South Carolina after playing LSU, Georgia, and Auburn in consecutive weeks than it is when you play them with 5 weeks to prepare. Its not that USoC is a super power but if you compare the worst teams in the SEC to the worst teams in other conferences the SEC teams are much better.

Vandy and Northwestern are just about a wash.

Indiana and Ole Miss ... bout equal.

What was your point again?

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by mh2365

No game after the third game of the season really mattered for ND this year but our fans kept showing up, sold out every home and road game. 60,000 showed up for the spring game which was an exhibition ... but you know Florida fans only show up for a bowl game if it's the national championship because all the others are just exhibition games.

Once again great fans!

You just don't get it. Those games mean stuff because of recruiting and rivarlies. The Michigan game meant nothing. It was their Super Bowl. Florida just showed up to collect a pay check. They didn't try hard at all.

[Big Hugg]

Then can we officially start referring to OSU's bowl record vs. the SEC as 0-2. Since the other 7 losses were in mediocre bowls that we obviously didn't care about. I mean clearly South Carolina only beat them 2 years in a row because the game meant way more to them than it did to Ohio State.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

You just don't get it. Those games mean stuff because of recruiting and rivarlies. The Michigan game meant nothing. It was their Super Bowl. Florida just showed up to collect a pay check. They didn't try hard at all.

Well then that is really bad coaching ..... I still don't get your justification if there is any.

Your main points

1) Florida didn't try because it wasn't the NC

2) Florida fans didn't show up because it wasn't the NC

3) Michigan cared more about the game because they want to win a meaningless bowl game but Florida doesn't ---- your point about sending Carr out on a winning note is a joke because they could have lost to FLA by 57 and if the had beaten OSU it wouldn't have mattered so in reality they played for Carr against OSU not FLA.


Good argument ... BTW I think all these opinions are only yours and I'm really not basing my opinion of Florida fans on this.

So your college basketball team stands virtually no chance of winning the championship this year so are all these games meaningless?

[yankeesrule]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

You just don't get it. Those games mean stuff because of recruiting and rivarlies. The Michigan game meant nothing. It was their Super Bowl. Florida just showed up to collect a pay check. They didn't try hard at all.

So the players care more about a BS game against Kentucky than they do in a new years bowl game on national tv. hmm, says something about your players, coaches, and fan base

[His Own Bad Self]

Part of me wishes the SEC would simply play its own schedule without participating in the postseason, like the Ivy League. It's a 12-team conference - they can play an 11-game schedule, have the conference title game, and there you have it.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

Part of me wishes the SEC would simply play its own schedule without participating in the postseason, like the Ivy League. It's a 12-team conference - they can play an 11-game schedule, have the conference title game, and there you have it.

I don't think the Ivy League participates in the postseason because nobody invites them.

[Elendil]

Originally Posted by Eric

I don't think the Ivy League participates in the postseason because nobody invites them.

No, usually the Ivy winner is ranked in I-AA, but school policy forbids them from participating in the I-AA tournament.

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Well then that is really bad coaching ..... I still don't get your justification if there is any.

Your main points

1) Florida didn't try because it wasn't the NC

2) Florida fans didn't show up because it wasn't the NC

3) Michigan cared more about the game because they want to win a meaningless bowl game but Florida doesn't ---- your point about sending Carr out on a winning note is a joke because they could have lost to FLA by 57 and if the had beaten OSU it wouldn't have mattered so in reality they played for Carr against OSU not FLA.


Good argument ... BTW I think all these opinions are only yours and I'm really not basing my opinion of Florida fans on this.

So your college basketball team stands virtually no chance of winning the championship this year so are all these games meaningless?

I probably should have said this from the start. We don't feel this way every year. Just after having 3 National Titles, not playing for one seems like a meaningless thing.

Next year you can bet we will be as excited as Notre Dame to win any game.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I probably should have said this from the start. We don't feel this way every year. Just after having 3 National Titles, not playing for one seems like a meaningless thing.

Next year you can bet we will be as excited as Notre Dame to win any game.

Considering how young your team was and the fact that you had no running backs on the team whatsoever, you should have been very excited to have the season you did.

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Considering how young your team was and the fact that you had no running backs on the team whatsoever, you should have been very excited to have the season you did.

I agree, but it followed such unprecedented sucess that it felt meaningless. I was one of the people excited about winning 9 games. I thought Florida would lose to LSU, Auburn, South Carolina, FSU and Georgia. And then I wasn't even sure they would be able to beat Tennessee or Kentucky. So I was excited about their year, but I know they got real lucky to be in a New Years game. They shouldn't have been.

But saying that, it followed such sucess that it almost felt anticlimatic. I knew they were going to lose. They were going to have the same problem with Michigan that they had with Georgia. They couldn't stop the run and they wouldn't be able to stop Michigan Offesne. Which they did not. Yeah they had 4 turnovers but 2 of them were better for Michigan than punts because they pinned Florida deep. They only really stoped Michigan 3 times. You are not going to win when you do that. So that is why they game felt meaningless. It followed a year and a half of sucess that has never been matched and it was a game that everyone expected them to win. It was a no win for Florida. If they beat Michigan, good for them, they should have, but if they lost, is the sky falling? No they shouldn't have even been there this year.