Do you remember Sam Horn? - Page 2

blmeanie · 04-08-2002, 04:51 PM

And look at those incredible strikeout numbers!

joshuaaaaaa · 04-08-2002, 05:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blmeanie:
And look at those incredible strikeout numbers!

Not to mention the lousy batting average and OBP. Its like Dave Kingman with better power and a better average.

Ignatius J · 04-09-2002, 03:26 AM

For you who have asked... I use the 4.0 database. Vida Blue played out his whole career as an Oakland Athletic. He finished up with 269 wins and 159 losses with a career ERA of 3.89... a fringe hall of famer. Maybe I'll throw him in in a couple of years, since I'm a fan of his, too.

bigphesta · 04-09-2002, 04:39 AM

I had good ol' Hector Villanueva go crazy in my league. Although he wasn't bad in his stint as a Cub and Cardnial, he wasn't near the player he's become in my solo league. I can still hear old Harry Carry trying to pronounce his name after about 7 innings and 14 beers... he simply called him "Hector" after that.

Killer_Bs · 04-09-2002, 05:05 AM

There's a name I haven't heard in a while

CBL-Commish · 04-09-2002, 06:32 AM

In September of 2000 I went to one of the last games played by the now-defunct Aberdeen Arsenal of the independent Atlantic League. The paid attendence was something like 75 at a little community college field. Their opponent that night was the Nashua Pride, and their DH was Sam Horn. I don't remember what he did that night, but he looked like he'd put on a few pounds since his days with the O's - that 6'5", 250 listed on BaseballReferece.com was definitely a little low. He also looked like he'd still have trouble beating Dom DeLuise in a 50 yard dash.

This got me motivated, and I just looked up the Nashua Pride, and Sam was still with them last year. He hit .295-13-47 as their DH.

joshuaaaaaa · 04-09-2002, 04:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bigphesta:
I had good ol' Hector Villanueva go crazy in my league. Although he wasn't bad in his stint as a Cub and Cardnial, he wasn't near the player he's become in my solo league. I can still hear old Harry Carry trying to pronounce his name after about 7 innings and 14 beers... he simply called him "Hector" after that.

One of the best baseball quotes I ever heard was about Hector. I think one of the Cubs coaches said it after he hit his first major league triple. The guy said "I always expected him to hit a triple. I just never expected it to be inside the park."

Jah · 04-11-2002, 06:47 PM

Someone should contact Sam and tell him about his 800-homer career in an OOTP alternate baseball universe.

blmeanie · 06-02-2002, 07:02 PM

Had to revive this post with this picture of Sam Horn's career stats to date...

Jason Moyer · 06-02-2002, 07:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by LivnLegend:
Was hoping I could find someone in this thread willing to buy 200 Sam Horn Fleer rookie cards. I'll throw in 50 Greg Jeffries rookies for free!

I sold all of my Gregg Jefferies rookie cards to a rabid Mets fan back in 88 or 89 when they were still worth $10-20.

Smartest decision I've ever made.

Jason

MannyTrillo · 06-02-2002, 08:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bigphesta:
I had good ol' Hector Villanueva go crazy in my league. Although he wasn't bad in his stint as a Cub and Cardnial, he wasn't near the player he's become in my solo league. I can still hear old Harry Carry trying to pronounce his name after about 7 innings and 14 beers... he simply called him "Hector" after that.

My favorite Harry Carray pronunciation was Ken Caminiti... he would say "Cam-a-nee-tee," with a little pause between the last two syllables.

MannyTrillo · 06-02-2002, 08:30 PM

Hey, no offense, but I've always thought of Sam Horn as the poor man's Eric Wedge... what an uproar when the Sox left him unprotected in the expansion draft so they could keep Ellis Burks, who they ended up releasing a short time later!

Ksyrup · 06-03-2002, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by MannyTrillo:
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My favorite Harry Carray pronunciation was Ken Caminiti... he would say "Cam-a-nee-tee," with a little pause between the last two syllables.[/QB][/QUOTE]

My favorite was Andres Galarraga. In later innings, you could get an additional two or three "ragas" in the middle of his name. It was like he couldn't stop pronouncing the guy's name!

Of course, my all-time favorite was during spring training when the Cubs were playing San Diego, and Harry looked at the SD on the cap and called them South Dakota.

Ankit · 06-03-2002, 09:58 AM

Here's what Sam Horn did in my replay league (1904-2001):

Pretty wacky! 1,925 Ks in slightly less than 10 seasons!

spleen1015 · 06-03-2002, 10:10 AM

He stuck out more than he got a hit, almost twice as many Ks as hits.

Hillbilly Nick · 06-03-2002, 10:48 AM

I'm also a lifelong Oriole fan and remember watching him play. Big guy. Of course everybody was big when I was 11 years old. I have no trouble remembering watching him play though. He's also in the genesis game "sports talk baseball" on the orioles. Which was I beleive the first incarnation of the World Series Baseball games.

SufferingSoxFan · 06-14-2002, 09:22 AM

I used to play Baseball Mogul before I discovered STB. In every league I had in Mogul, Jose Cruz Jr was the most dominant player in the history of baseball always ending up with like 800 home runs. That's whats great about STB is that there are so many more variables at play, no league trends the same way. In my 2002 league, Trot Nixon had a career ending injury. I'm sure that Trot would not like to hear about that.

KC · 06-23-2002, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by Modern Relic
When you guys run these "baseball history" sims, how do you set it so that cup of coffee guys can be stars?

For those who have Kevin Mass and Sam Horn as stars, I'm wondering how Alan Knicely did (Astros farm hand who came up for cups of coffee from 1979 to 1982 then went to the Reds).

The reason I ask is that when I was younger and playing Micro League Baseball, a friend of mine and I use to enter in true stats from the backs of baseball cards. Kincely was one of those guys who played in the last week of the season, belted three home runs in 16 ABs, and became Micro League's all-time home run king.

Dark Horse · 06-23-2002, 09:46 PM

How did the teams that Sam Horn played on did? In that league where he was with Milwaukee where he'd actually hit over .250 i'm guessing his team did well. But the league where he's with Boston and batting below the Mendoza line... how much did the home runs help the Red Sox?

William4192 · 06-27-2003, 12:50 PM

I used to love Sam Horn. Funny that Kevin Maas came up.

Anyone remember Wayne Simpson of the (60's) Reds teams? he was like 16-1 at the All Star Break and hurt his arm and slowly ended his career. They say he was unhittable.

04-08-2002, 04:51 PM	#21
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joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	quote: Originally posted by blmeanie: And look at those incredible strikeout numbers! Not to mention the lousy batting average and OBP. Its like Dave Kingman with better power and a better average. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

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04-09-2002, 06:32 AM	#26
CBL-Commish All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,999	In September of 2000 I went to one of the last games played by the now-defunct Aberdeen Arsenal of the independent Atlantic League. The paid attendence was something like 75 at a little community college field. Their opponent that night was the Nashua Pride, and their DH was Sam Horn. I don't remember what he did that night, but he looked like he'd put on a few pounds since his days with the O's - that 6'5", 250 listed on BaseballReferece.com was definitely a little low. He also looked like he'd still have trouble beating Dom DeLuise in a 50 yard dash. This got me motivated, and I just looked up the Nashua Pride, and Sam was still with them last year. He hit .295-13-47 as their DH. __________________ For the best in O's news: Orioles' Hangout.com

04-09-2002, 04:19 PM	#27
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	quote: Originally posted by bigphesta: I had good ol' Hector Villanueva go crazy in my league. Although he wasn't bad in his stint as a Cub and Cardnial, he wasn't near the player he's become in my solo league. I can still hear old Harry Carry trying to pronounce his name after about 7 innings and 14 beers... he simply called him "Hector" after that. One of the best baseball quotes I ever heard was about Hector. I think one of the Cubs coaches said it after he hit his first major league triple. The guy said "I always expected him to hit a triple. I just never expected it to be inside the park." __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-09-2002, 03:26 AM	#23
Ignatius J Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 76	For you who have asked... I use the 4.0 database. Vida Blue played out his whole career as an Oakland Athletic. He finished up with 269 wins and 159 losses with a career ERA of 3.89... a fringe hall of famer. Maybe I'll throw him in in a couple of years, since I'm a fan of his, too.

04-09-2002, 04:39 AM	#24
bigphesta Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,366	I had good ol' Hector Villanueva go crazy in my league. Although he wasn't bad in his stint as a Cub and Cardnial, he wasn't near the player he's become in my solo league. I can still hear old Harry Carry trying to pronounce his name after about 7 innings and 14 beers... he simply called him "Hector" after that.

04-11-2002, 06:47 PM	#28
Jah Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 148	Someone should contact Sam and tell him about his 800-homer career in an OOTP alternate baseball universe.

06-02-2002, 07:02 PM	#29
blmeanie All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,044	Had to revive this post with this picture of Sam Horn's career stats to date... __________________ blmeanie email me at blmeanie Above link works for some email client programs but not all, email me at blmeanie33@earthlink.net

06-02-2002, 07:34 PM	#30
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,076	quote: Originally posted by LivnLegend: Was hoping I could find someone in this thread willing to buy 200 Sam Horn Fleer rookie cards. I'll throw in 50 Greg Jeffries rookies for free! I sold all of my Gregg Jefferies rookie cards to a rabid Mets fan back in 88 or 89 when they were still worth $10-20. Smartest decision I've ever made. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

06-02-2002, 08:23 PM	#31
MannyTrillo All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 664	quote: Originally posted by bigphesta: I had good ol' Hector Villanueva go crazy in my league. Although he wasn't bad in his stint as a Cub and Cardnial, he wasn't near the player he's become in my solo league. I can still hear old Harry Carry trying to pronounce his name after about 7 innings and 14 beers... he simply called him "Hector" after that. My favorite Harry Carray pronunciation was Ken Caminiti... he would say "Cam-a-nee-tee," with a little pause between the last two syllables. __________________ Poster emeritus "Not butchery, dining!!" obt sk cmh ct President, A-1 Aces OT Posting Club Click here to join

06-02-2002, 08:30 PM	#32
MannyTrillo All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 664	Hey, no offense, but I've always thought of Sam Horn as the poor man's Eric Wedge... what an uproar when the Sox left him unprotected in the expansion draft so they could keep Ellis Burks, who they ended up releasing a short time later! __________________ Poster emeritus "Not butchery, dining!!" obt sk cmh ct President, A-1 Aces OT Posting Club Click here to join

06-03-2002, 08:07 AM	#33
Ksyrup Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 413	quote: Originally posted by MannyTrillo: [/qb] My favorite Harry Carray pronunciation was Ken Caminiti... he would say "Cam-a-nee-tee," with a little pause between the last two syllables.[/QB][/QUOTE] My favorite was Andres Galarraga. In later innings, you could get an additional two or three "ragas" in the middle of his name. It was like he couldn't stop pronouncing the guy's name! Of course, my all-time favorite was during spring training when the Cubs were playing San Diego, and Harry looked at the SD on the cap and called them South Dakota.

06-03-2002, 09:58 AM	#34
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	Here's what Sam Horn did in my replay league (1904-2001): Pretty wacky! 1,925 Ks in slightly less than 10 seasons! __________________

06-03-2002, 10:10 AM	#35
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,000	He stuck out more than he got a hit, almost twice as many Ks as hits.

06-03-2002, 10:48 AM	#36
Hillbilly Nick Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oriole Country Posts: 72	I'm also a lifelong Oriole fan and remember watching him play. Big guy. Of course everybody was big when I was 11 years old. I have no trouble remembering watching him play though. He's also in the genesis game "sports talk baseball" on the orioles. Which was I beleive the first incarnation of the World Series Baseball games. __________________ They called him the Human Vacuum Cleaner.

06-14-2002, 09:22 AM	#37
SufferingSoxFan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Attleboro, MA Posts: 150	I used to play Baseball Mogul before I discovered STB. In every league I had in Mogul, Jose Cruz Jr was the most dominant player in the history of baseball always ending up with like 800 home runs. That's whats great about STB is that there are so many more variables at play, no league trends the same way. In my 2002 league, Trot Nixon had a career ending injury. I'm sure that Trot would not like to hear about that.

06-23-2002, 09:46 PM	#39
Dark Horse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas! Posts: 2,633	??? How did the teams that Sam Horn played on did? In that league where he was with Milwaukee where he'd actually hit over .250 i'm guessing his team did well. But the league where he's with Boston and batting below the Mendoza line... how much did the home runs help the Red Sox? __________________ A Justafan Fan LBA Geo Bahn Rock Hounds fan of the ISLANDIAN PRO ALLIANCE

06-27-2003, 12:50 PM	#40
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	I used to love Sam Horn. Funny that Kevin Maas came up. Anyone remember Wayne Simpson of the (60's) Reds teams? he was like 16-1 at the All Star Break and hurt his arm and slowly ended his career. They say he was unhittable. __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com