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12-13-2007, 10:01 AM
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This alleged leaked list has been floating around the 'Net. A few bombshells...
The List [64] Admitted Users (17) Ken Caminiti - Steroids Barry Bonds - Steroids Bobby Estalella - Steroids and hGH Jason Giambi - Steroids and hGH Jeremy Giambi - Steroids Armando Rios - Steroids and hGH Benito Santiago - Steroids and hGH Gary Sheffield - Steroids Jose Canseco - Steroids and hGH Tom House - Steroids Wally Joyner - Steroids Paxton Crawford - Steroids and hGH Jason Grimsley - Steroids and hGH Jim Leyritz - hGH David Segui - hGH John Rocker - hGH Paul Byrd - hGH Implicated Players (29) Mark McGwire - Steroids Manny Alexander - Steroids Chuck Finley - Steroids Marvin Bernard - Steroids and hGH Randy Velarde - Steroids Wilson Alvarez - Steroids and hGH Bret Boone - Steroids Ozzie Canseco - Steroids Juan Gonzalez - Steroids and hGH Dave Martinez - Steroids Ivan Rodriguez - Steroids and hGH Tony Saunders - Steroids and hGH Miguel Tejada - Steroids Lenny Dykstra - Steroids and hGH Dave Hollins - Steroids Roger Clemens - "PE Drugs" Andy Pettitte - "PE Drugs" Brian Roberts - Steroids Jay Gibbons - Steroids Gary Matthews Jr. - hGH Jerry Hairston Jr. - hGH David Bell - hCG Darren Holmes - Steroids and hGH Rick Ankiel - hGH Troy Glaus - Steroids Scott Schoeneweis - Steroids Matt Williams - Steroids and hGH Jose Guillen - Steroids and hGH Ismael Valdez - hGH MLB Posiive Tests (16) Alex Sanchez - Unknown Jorge Piedra - Unknown Agustin Montero - Unknown Jamal Strong - Unknown Juan Rincon - Unknown Rafael Betancourt - Unknown Rafael Palmeiro - Stanzolol (Steroid) Ryan Franklin - Unknown Mike Morse - Unknown Carlos Almanzar - Unknown Felix Heredia - Unknown Matt Lawton - Boldenone (Steroid) Yusaku Iriki - Unknown Guillermo Mota - Unknown Juan Salas - Unknown Dan Serafini - Unknown Non-MLB Positive Tests (2) Termel Sledge - Precursor (Andro) Derrick Turnbow - Precursor (Andro)
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12-13-2007, 10:21 AM
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12-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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So what happens once they're named, are they instantly suspended for a certain # of games? Have they said? |
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12-13-2007, 11:09 AM
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It has nothing to do with the list on the Mitchell Report. Obviously, there will be quite an overlap, though.
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12-13-2007, 11:12 AM
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So Roger Clemens' name has been floated around (and is on the list posted above). I wonder how this could affect his Hall of Fame chances. If Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire don't get in, I don't know how you could let other guys in who also are reported as taking performance enhancing drugs.
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12-13-2007, 11:53 AM
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Here's another list floating around:
http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html Correction -- 1 Red Sox .. Jason Varitek.
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12-13-2007, 11:54 AM
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DAVID BELL
DAVID ****ING BELL ahahahaha Ok, so maybe *one* good thing might come out of this report.
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"I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech |
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12-13-2007, 11:55 AM
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Edit: AAHAHAHA that second list is even better. JOSE OFFERMAN. JOSE ****ING OFFERMAN! Edit 2: MARK PRIOR! KERRY WOOD! Yeah, those injuries were due to misuse.
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"I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech Last edited by Jason Moyer; 12-13-2007 at 12:00 PM. |
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12-13-2007, 12:05 PM
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12-13-2007, 12:06 PM
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If this list is accurate, he basically outed everyone who played a prominent role on the Red Sox from 1990-2000 except Pedro.
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12-13-2007, 12:19 PM
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12-13-2007, 12:20 PM
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12-13-2007, 12:22 PM
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The best thing for Bonds is that now people can't use the excuse of baseball records to single him out. Clemens surely have a lot of records too. How about a bunch of asterisks for Clemens?
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12-13-2007, 12:23 PM
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12-13-2007, 12:24 PM
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12-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Let's start the speculation game of Clemens started to use enhancement drugs after Dan Duquette said Clemens is near the twilight of his career.
Clemens hired Brian McNamee, who later sold steroids to Jason Grimsley, as a personal strength coach in 1997.
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Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest. |
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12-13-2007, 12:48 PM
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Good call on Brian, Skip:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153129 For the love of all things good, holy, and right in the world I hope Jeter/A Rod are on that list.
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12-13-2007, 01:05 PM
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12-13-2007, 01:28 PM
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Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest. |
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12-13-2007, 01:53 PM
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still don't care
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