2007-08 NHL Thread... - Page 20

Chappy · 10-14-2007, 03:19 PM

Nice win by the Canes in Montreal last night, avenging our loss in our home opener. Cam Ward was electric, and if he keeps it up, he could break Gerber's record, right Creed?

Long_Long_Name · 10-14-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

When Brooks Orpik broke Erik Cole's neck, all Orpik got was a 3-game suspension. Although I agree that the crime should be punished regardless of injury, when you do cause a player to miss months of play, I think the offender should miss at least as much time as the victim.

I disagree with you, because a vicious hit can be inconsequential and a borderline body check can end a player's career if he doesn't land right. But, yeah, the "crime" should lead to a higher penalty than what the victim is subject to, in general, but I think throwing them out for good would do the trick

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Long_Long_Name · 10-14-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

Nice win by the Canes in Montreal last night, avenging our loss in our home opener. Cam Ward was electric, and if he keeps it up, he could break Gerber's record, right Creed?

Cam Ward wasn't nearly as good as Cristobal Huet.

But then again, the Canadien wasn't nearly as good as the Hurricanes, so it's all for naught

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Muppetus Galacticus · 10-14-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

When Brooks Orpik broke Erik Cole's neck, all Orpik got was a 3-game suspension. Although I agree that the crime should be punished regardless of injury, when you do cause a player to miss months of play, I think the offender should miss at least as much time as the victim.

Or a whole season like I suggested for Bertuzzi/Moore type situations

But yeah, I wouldn't whine about some thug sitting out longer.

Ward is really up for it this season, looks like the Canes are going back to the playoffs.

marc · 10-14-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

In the Crush, Kill and Destroy stat columns? :slurpsoup:

AND the standings!!!

Get used to it!

ukslamjam · 10-14-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

AND the standings!!!

Get used to it!

Its about time we have a decent run at the cup! Go Flyers!!

The Sens/Canes will be hard to beat though!!

marc · 10-14-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ukslamjam

Its about time we have a decent run at the cup! Go Flyers!!

The Sens/Canes will be hard to beat though!!

What's exciting about this team is how young they are. Loads of talent on the roster so the team should only improve over the next few years.

Long_Long_Name · 10-14-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ukslamjam

Its about time we have a decent run at the cup! Go Flyers!!

The Sens/Canes will be hard to beat though!!

About time? Where have you been for the past 10 years?

ukslamjam · 10-14-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

What's exciting about this team is how young they are. Loads of talent on the roster so the team should only improve over the next few years.

I couldn't wait for the season to start!!!

marc · 10-14-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

About time? Where have you been for the past 30 years?

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We are regular season heroes, playoff zeros.

ukslamjam · 10-14-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

About time? Where have you been for the past 10 years?

I should have worded that better I meant, it would be nice to see them lift the cup instead of getting in the post season and loosing to the Sens.

They haven't won the cup since 1974/75!

Long_Long_Name · 10-14-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

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We are regular season heroes, playoff zeros.

Going past the first round 6 times since 94-95 isn't so bad. I'd love for the Canadien to have that. But hey, I doubt he was talking exclusively about the playoffs in his statement considering we're a few games into the regular season. Surely he wasn't basing his run at the cup based on 2007-2008 playoff results

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Long_Long_Name · 10-14-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ukslamjam

I should have worded that better I meant, it would be nice to see them lift the cup instead of getting in the post season. They haven't won the cup since 1974/75!

There are 30 franchises in the league. 13 of them have won the cup since that time. You're not too bad!

ukslamjam · 10-14-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

There are 30 franchises in the league. 13 of them have won the cup since that time. You're not too bad!

I know I'm just being selfish. LOL

canadiancreed · 10-15-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

The Leafs blew a 3-1 lead and lost 6-4. They were outshot 52-27. To which I can only say... Ha! Ha!

Someday the Leafs supporters in this town are going to realize that management has been playing them for chumps for years and years... and maybe then Toronto will actually get a Cup contending team instead of the pretenders which have been trotted out...

I've given up hope on that. I was watching that game with some friends of mine. Obviously their all Leaf fans. So afer the game ended, what do you think teh reason was that they blamed the loss on? Was it the horrid passing that resulted in half of their passes being either completely missed or intercepted? The zoning out of thier defense, with Newbury and McCabe looking like they just got hired off the street to play? The stupid penalties that Kubina seem to get over and over again?

Niope the blame was that Pretty Bitch Tucker got called for a penalty (that IMO wasn't a penalty, but I digress) that resulted int he game winner. Never mind the fact that they gave teh Penquins over fifty shots on Taskava, or that they let their players skate circles around them, or if their defensemen didnt' have their head in the cluds it would have been at least 4-2 when the goal was scored. Nope, it was the refs fault. Their all out to get us.

Hockey zealots, thy name is Leaf Nation.

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Originally Posted by marc

Flyers in 1st place!

I'd be more confident if your opposition was stronger.

Rangers: Seem to still be trying to get a groove back after the closing of the Madison Square Retirement Home
Islanders: WE all know they suck. Next
Pittsburgh: Talent that is still green, but as the Leafs found out, will burn you if you let them
New Jersey: NO the same team they used to be.

So you've got two teams that are crap, and too that are either green or not in a groove. Add that to you're tied with the Islanders and I wouldn't be dressing up William Penn just yet.

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Originally Posted by Jestre

Its the NHL's crackdown on the game that has caused this problem, used to be the players would take care of policing the cheapshot artists by beating them senseless. Cheapshots were much rarer during the rough and tumble 70's and 80's before Bettman pansified the league. The worst cheapshot guys back then were guys like Cashman and Dale Hunter that would just swat at guys legs/ankles with their lumber otherwise they knew Tiger Williams or Dave Schultz would beat the crap out of them. Go back to the way the game was played back in the 70's and guys like Boulerice would disappear.

Like Disco and platform shoes, this is another thing that should stay buried in the 70's

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Originally Posted by Chappy

When Brooks Orpik broke Erik Cole's neck, all Orpik got was a 3-game suspension. Although I agree that the crime should be punished regardless of injury, when you do cause a player to miss months of play, I think the offender should miss at least as much time as the victim.

He got it back last Saturday. I think he had the orbital bone broken on his right eye.

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Originally Posted by Chappy

Nice win by the Canes in Montreal last night, avenging our loss in our home opener. Cam Ward was electric, and if he keeps it up, he could break Gerber's record, right Creed?

Anything's possible

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Cam Ward wasn't nearly as good as Cristobal Huet.

But then again, the Canadien wasn't nearly as good as the Hurricanes, so it's all for naught

.

Sounds like Brodeur and the Devils right now.

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Originally Posted by marc

AND the standings!!!

Get used to it!

TO them being the best of the worst? Well I guess if you keep your sights low, you wont' be disapointed...

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Originally Posted by ukslamjam

I should have worded that better I meant, it would be nice to see them lift the cup instead of getting in the post season and loosing to the Sens.

But you guys own the Leafs. There's.......something.........right?

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Originally Posted by ukslamjam

They haven't won the cup since 1974/75!

William Penn strikes again. (for those that are wondering wtf I'm talking about >- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Billy_Penn)

darkenigma510 · 10-15-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Bomber

I remember quite vividly back in the 80's when I started working at CBC, and many of the Leaf fans I worked with at the time would say, I can't wait until Harold Ballard dies and we finally win the Stanley Cup!! well guess what guys
Ballard passed away years ago, and the team has had several owners since then, and they still can't stop the bleeding.

Greg

The current owners are just a more benevolent version of Ballard. They can maximize their profit by putting out a mediocre team.

At least post-Ballard they had a few good runs, first under Fletcher then under Quinn but the post-lockout Leafs are terrible because the organization has never been great at drafting (and when they were they gave away those prospects for old guys). Now in the new NHL, they actually have to build the team properly and don't know how/don't have the gut to do it right.

darkenigma510 · 10-15-2007, 04:19 PM

dola

hopefully this year is a total washout which forces JF Jr to be fired and the team to actually realize they need to rebuild. The worst thing that can happen to the Leafs is to either just make or just miss the playoffs, thus perpetuating the illusion to the top brass they are only a few peices away from...something.

canadiancreed · 10-15-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by darkenigma510

dola

hopefully this year is a total washout which forces JF Jr to be fired and the team to actually realize they need to rebuild. The worst thing that can happen to the Leafs is to either just make or just miss the playoffs, thus perpetuating the illusion to the top brass they are only a few peices away from...something.

Well ehre's hoping that the illusion of being a competitive is snapped soon, then maybe both management and fans will realize that they realyl havent' been Stanley Cup bound for any of the seasons (sans 1993) since '67.

Of course I used to be hopeful that Leaf zealots weren't blind to reality as well so....

ukslamjam · 10-15-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

I've given up hope on that. I was watching that game with some friends of mine. Obviously their all Leaf fans. So afer the game ended, what do you think teh reason was that they blamed the loss on? Was it the horrid passing that resulted in half of their passes being either completely missed or intercepted? The zoning out of thier defense, with Newbury and McCabe looking like they just got hired off the street to play? The stupid penalties that Kubina seem to get over and over again?

Niope the blame was that Pretty Bitch Tucker got called for a penalty (that IMO wasn't a penalty, but I digress) that resulted int he game winner. Never mind the fact that they gave teh Penquins over fifty shots on Taskava, or that they let their players skate circles around them, or if their defensemen didnt' have their head in the cluds it would have been at least 4-2 when the goal was scored. Nope, it was the refs fault. Their all out to get us.

Hockey zealots, thy name is Leaf Nation.

I'd be more confident if your opposition was stronger.

Rangers: Seem to still be trying to get a groove back after the closing of the Madison Square Retirement Home
Islanders: WE all know they suck. Next
Pittsburgh: Talent that is still green, but as the Leafs found out, will burn you if you let them
New Jersey: NO the same team they used to be.

So you've got two teams that are crap, and too that are either green or not in a groove. Add that to you're tied with the Islanders and I wouldn't be dressing up William Penn just yet.

Like Disco and platform shoes, this is another thing that should stay buried in the 70's

He got it back last Saturday. I think he had the orbital bone broken on his right eye.

Anything's possible

Sounds like Brodeur and the Devils right now.

TO them being the best of the worst? Well I guess if you keep your sights low, you wont' be disapointed...

But you guys own the Leafs. There's.......something.........right?

William Penn strikes again. (for those that are wondering wtf I'm talking about >- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Billy_Penn)

I salute you sir, that was a fine rant.

Its probably one of the finest I have seen for many a year! I hope after you finished you cracked open a cold one and sat back smiling! (I know I would of!)

To be honest that's why I like this site, people are free to give their opinions and not be influenced by others. Bravo!!

By the way I honestly think its way too early to say who will win the cup but all I ask for is some good, clean, skillful hockey.

canadiancreed · 10-15-2007, 05:29 PM

And that wasn't even a rant, ti was jsut me catching up on posts.

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