1871 Replay - Page 2

Vyper · 09-21-2007, 08:06 PM

Top 10 Prospects for 1872

P Jim Britt (Brooklyn Atlantics)
2B Ross Barnes (Boston)
P Al Spalding (Boston)
P Cy Bentley (Middletown)
3B Cap Anson (Philadelphia)
P Candy Cummings (New York)
CF Paul Hines (Washington Nationals)
P Frank Fleet (Brooklyn Eckfords)
P Bobby Mathews (Baltimore)
P Al Pratt (Cleveland)

Last Year’s Top Prospects

P Bill Stearns – Pitched 19 games for the Olympics, starting 1. He finished with a 2-1 record and a 4.92 ERA in 56.2 IP. Now playing for the cross town Nationals.
P Bobby Mathews – Started all 19 games for the Kekiongas, going 8-11 with an impressive 3.42 ERA. Now playing for Baltimore.
3B Cap Anson – Joined the Philadelphia Athletics for 1872, last year, Anson hit .308 with 2 HR and 28 runs scored.
2B Ross Barnes – His .343 average last season put him near the top of the leader board. Barnes also contributed 2 HR and batted in 27 runs, while scoring 27 himself and also winning a Gold Glove award at 2B.
P Al Spalding – Spalding’s pitching kept the Red Stockings in the pennant race, he finished with an 18-13 record and a 3.85 ERA. He also won pitcher of the month awards for June, August, and October. Like Ross Barnes, Spalding is staying with his team for the ’72 season.
P Frank Fleet – Stuck in the bullpen for the entire 1871 season, Fleet still pitched 70 innings, on his way to a league leading 2.83ERA and a 3-3 record, and found his name on almost every leader board. Fleet will find himself in the bullpen again this year, now pitching for the Brooklyn Eckfords.
P Dick McBride – McBride had an unlucky season last year, finishing 13-15 despite a 3.32 ERA. He threw a 1-hit shutout against the New York Mutuals, and won the pitcher of the month award for July.
P Al Pratt – Pratt was a major reason that Cleveland faired so well last year. He finished 19-10 with a 3.32 ERA and won numerous awards throughout the season. Pratt showed his allegiance by staying with the Forest Citys for the 1872 season.

The Teams
Boston Red Stockings
The Red Stockings have virtually the same team as last year, losing two players to retirement and backup second baseman Sam Jackson to the Brooklyn Atlantics. The addition of Andy Leonard in LF to replace Fred Cone is the only real change, and with the experience gained by playing together, this team is expected to go far in 1872.
C Cal McVey (15)
1B Charlie Gould
2B Ross Barnes (1)
3B Harry Schafer
SS George Wright (8)
LF Andy Leonard
CF Harry Wright
RF Dave Birdsall
SP Al Spalding (6)

Baltimore Canaries
The Canaries are new to the National Association and have put together a team that could take the championship. Former Troy players Lip Pike, and Tom York join George Hall from the Olympics on one of the top offenses in the game. Pitchers Cherokee Fisher and rookie Bobby Mathews are expected to split duties on the mound
C Dick Higham (18)
1B Everett Mills (17)
2B Tom Carey
3B John Radcliffe
SS Bill Craver
LF Tom York (16)
CF George Hall (4)
RF Lip Pike (7)
SP Bobby Mathews (14)
SP Cherokee Fisher (7)

New York Mutuals
Following their disappointing 1871 season, the Mutuals most important addition was that of rookie Candy Cummings, thought to be one of the greatest pitchers ever to play professional ball.
C Nat Hicks
1B Joe Start
2B John Hatfield
3B Chick Fulmer
SS Dickey Pearce
LF George Bechtel
CF Dave Eggler (19)
RF Bill Boyd
SP Candy Cummings (1)

Philadelphia Athletics
Despite being early season favorites in '71, the Athletics finished at a disappointing 13-15 record, but starting this year with four top ten players in the Philadelphia infield, opposing teams will be hard pressed to score many runs against this team.
C Mike McGeary (20)
1B Cap Anson (5)
2B Wes Fisler
3B Levi Meyerle (2)
SS Dickie Flowers (9)
LF Ned Cuthbert
CF Fred Treacey (10)
RF Al Reach
SP Dick McBride (13)

Troy Haymakers
The Haymakers lost a few of their top players to other teams, but were able to pick up last year’s top pitcher, George Zettlein. The middle of the infield, consisting of Davy Force and Jimmy Wood is one of the most feared in the league.
C Charlie Hodes
1B Bub McAtee
2B Jimmy Wood (13)
3B Steve Bellan
SS Davy Force (14)
LF Count Gedney
CF Candy Nelson
RF Phonney Martin
SP George Zettlein (5)

Brooklyn Atlantics
The Atlantics, a founding member of the National Association of Base Ball Players in 1857 are recognized as one of the premier teams in baseball, but are still unproven within the National Association. The the Atlantics were able to more than enough players to fill the roster, there is a distinct lack of talent, with the possible exception of SS Tom Barlow. SP Jim Britt will be just 16 years of age when he makes his debut against Middletown on May 2nd.
C John Bass
1B Herman Dehlman
2B Jim Hall
3B Jack Burdock
SS Tom Barlow (12)
LF Al Thake
CF Jack Remsen
RF Joe Higby
SP Jim Britt (8)

Cleveland Forest Citys
After making a surprise run at the pennant last year, the Forest Citys wanted this to be their year. However, almost half of the team has left for other opportunities, although star players Deacon White and Ezra Sutton, and Al Pratt have remained. Cleveland good surprise again this season.
C Deacon White (6)
1B Jim Carleton
2B Charlie Sweasy
3B Ezra Sutton (11)
SS Jim Holdsworth
LF Charlie Pabor
CF Scott Hastings
RF Joe Simmons
SP Al Pratt (11)

Middletown Mansfields
With an average age of 21.0, the Mansfields are comprised entirely of rookies. 2B Eddie Booth is the team’s veteran at 27 years old. This team is still a few years away from seriously contending, but starter Cy Bentley may be one to watch in the near future.
C John Clapp
1B Jim O’Rourke
2B Eddie Booth
3B George Fields
SS Ham Allen
LF Jim Tipper
CF Frank McCarton
RF Tim Murnane
SP Cy Bentley (3)

Brooklyn Eckfords
The Eckfords have paid their $10 entrance fee, but seem woefully outclassed by other teams in the league. Perhaps only pitcher Martin Malone can help this team put a few wins on the board.
C Joe Bestick
1B Andy Allison
2B Al Martin
3B Jim Clinton
SS Jim Snyder
LF Dan Patterson
CF Joe McDermott
RF Dick Hunt
SP Martin Malone (2)

Washington Olympics
After a respectable 16-16 record in 1871, most talent on the Olympics was raided over the off-season, leaving only star 3B Fred Waterman and P Asa Brainard behind as starters. One of two teams from Washington, they will be hard-pressed to compete with teams like Boston and Baltimore
C Frank Selman
1B Clipper Flynn
2B Tommy Beals
3B Frank Waterman (3)
SS Wally Goldsmith
LF John Glenn
CF Henry Burroughs
RF George Heubel
SP Asa Brainard (9)

Washington Nationals
Though they were the first major team to play in the nation’s capitol, the Nationals are the second Washington team to play in the National Association. Despite the fact that there are no big names on the team, and their starting pitcher was a reliever in 19 games last season for the Olympics, the Nationals still hope to show that they belong in the professional leagues.
C Bill Lennon
1B Joe Miller
2B Holly Hollingshead
3B Warren White
SS Joe Doyle
LF Ed Mincher
CF Paul Hines
RF Oscar Bielaski
SP Bill Stearns

Up Next: The 1872 Season

Vyper · 09-23-2007, 05:25 PM

Hit a bit of snag with Baltimore and Boston's starting rosters for 1872. Apparently OOTP needs at least 11 players on the roster even with injuries turned off. Baltimore picked up an extra later in the season when Troy disbanded, Boston played the entire season with 10 players.

The only way I can figure to get around it is to add a fictional player with severely decreased ratings for the period it's needed so the computer managers don't use them, then delete them. Hope to have the season posted later tonight or tomorrow.

09-21-2007, 08:06 PM	#21
Vyper Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 114	Top 10 Prospects for 1872 P Jim Britt (Brooklyn Atlantics) 2B Ross Barnes (Boston) P Al Spalding (Boston) P Cy Bentley (Middletown) 3B Cap Anson (Philadelphia) P Candy Cummings (New York) CF Paul Hines (Washington Nationals) P Frank Fleet (Brooklyn Eckfords) P Bobby Mathews (Baltimore) P Al Pratt (Cleveland) Last Year’s Top Prospects P Bill Stearns – Pitched 19 games for the Olympics, starting 1. He finished with a 2-1 record and a 4.92 ERA in 56.2 IP. Now playing for the cross town Nationals. P Bobby Mathews – Started all 19 games for the Kekiongas, going 8-11 with an impressive 3.42 ERA. Now playing for Baltimore. 3B Cap Anson – Joined the Philadelphia Athletics for 1872, last year, Anson hit .308 with 2 HR and 28 runs scored. 2B Ross Barnes – His .343 average last season put him near the top of the leader board. Barnes also contributed 2 HR and batted in 27 runs, while scoring 27 himself and also winning a Gold Glove award at 2B. P Al Spalding – Spalding’s pitching kept the Red Stockings in the pennant race, he finished with an 18-13 record and a 3.85 ERA. He also won pitcher of the month awards for June, August, and October. Like Ross Barnes, Spalding is staying with his team for the ’72 season. P Frank Fleet – Stuck in the bullpen for the entire 1871 season, Fleet still pitched 70 innings, on his way to a league leading 2.83ERA and a 3-3 record, and found his name on almost every leader board. Fleet will find himself in the bullpen again this year, now pitching for the Brooklyn Eckfords. P Dick McBride – McBride had an unlucky season last year, finishing 13-15 despite a 3.32 ERA. He threw a 1-hit shutout against the New York Mutuals, and won the pitcher of the month award for July. P Al Pratt – Pratt was a major reason that Cleveland faired so well last year. He finished 19-10 with a 3.32 ERA and won numerous awards throughout the season. Pratt showed his allegiance by staying with the Forest Citys for the 1872 season. The Teams Boston Red Stockings The Red Stockings have virtually the same team as last year, losing two players to retirement and backup second baseman Sam Jackson to the Brooklyn Atlantics. The addition of Andy Leonard in LF to replace Fred Cone is the only real change, and with the experience gained by playing together, this team is expected to go far in 1872. C Cal McVey (15) 1B Charlie Gould 2B Ross Barnes (1) 3B Harry Schafer SS George Wright (8) LF Andy Leonard CF Harry Wright RF Dave Birdsall SP Al Spalding (6) Baltimore Canaries The Canaries are new to the National Association and have put together a team that could take the championship. Former Troy players Lip Pike, and Tom York join George Hall from the Olympics on one of the top offenses in the game. Pitchers Cherokee Fisher and rookie Bobby Mathews are expected to split duties on the mound C Dick Higham (18) 1B Everett Mills (17) 2B Tom Carey 3B John Radcliffe SS Bill Craver LF Tom York (16) CF George Hall (4) RF Lip Pike (7) SP Bobby Mathews (14) SP Cherokee Fisher (7) New York Mutuals Following their disappointing 1871 season, the Mutuals most important addition was that of rookie Candy Cummings, thought to be one of the greatest pitchers ever to play professional ball. C Nat Hicks 1B Joe Start 2B John Hatfield 3B Chick Fulmer SS Dickey Pearce LF George Bechtel CF Dave Eggler (19) RF Bill Boyd SP Candy Cummings (1) Philadelphia Athletics Despite being early season favorites in '71, the Athletics finished at a disappointing 13-15 record, but starting this year with four top ten players in the Philadelphia infield, opposing teams will be hard pressed to score many runs against this team. C Mike McGeary (20) 1B Cap Anson (5) 2B Wes Fisler 3B Levi Meyerle (2) SS Dickie Flowers (9) LF Ned Cuthbert CF Fred Treacey (10) RF Al Reach SP Dick McBride (13) Troy Haymakers The Haymakers lost a few of their top players to other teams, but were able to pick up last year’s top pitcher, George Zettlein. The middle of the infield, consisting of Davy Force and Jimmy Wood is one of the most feared in the league. C Charlie Hodes 1B Bub McAtee 2B Jimmy Wood (13) 3B Steve Bellan SS Davy Force (14) LF Count Gedney CF Candy Nelson RF Phonney Martin SP George Zettlein (5) Brooklyn Atlantics The Atlantics, a founding member of the National Association of Base Ball Players in 1857 are recognized as one of the premier teams in baseball, but are still unproven within the National Association. The the Atlantics were able to more than enough players to fill the roster, there is a distinct lack of talent, with the possible exception of SS Tom Barlow. SP Jim Britt will be just 16 years of age when he makes his debut against Middletown on May 2nd. C John Bass 1B Herman Dehlman 2B Jim Hall 3B Jack Burdock SS Tom Barlow (12) LF Al Thake CF Jack Remsen RF Joe Higby SP Jim Britt (8) Cleveland Forest Citys After making a surprise run at the pennant last year, the Forest Citys wanted this to be their year. However, almost half of the team has left for other opportunities, although star players Deacon White and Ezra Sutton, and Al Pratt have remained. Cleveland good surprise again this season. C Deacon White (6) 1B Jim Carleton 2B Charlie Sweasy 3B Ezra Sutton (11) SS Jim Holdsworth LF Charlie Pabor CF Scott Hastings RF Joe Simmons SP Al Pratt (11) Middletown Mansfields With an average age of 21.0, the Mansfields are comprised entirely of rookies. 2B Eddie Booth is the team’s veteran at 27 years old. This team is still a few years away from seriously contending, but starter Cy Bentley may be one to watch in the near future. C John Clapp 1B Jim O’Rourke 2B Eddie Booth 3B George Fields SS Ham Allen LF Jim Tipper CF Frank McCarton RF Tim Murnane SP Cy Bentley (3) Brooklyn Eckfords The Eckfords have paid their $10 entrance fee, but seem woefully outclassed by other teams in the league. Perhaps only pitcher Martin Malone can help this team put a few wins on the board. C Joe Bestick 1B Andy Allison 2B Al Martin 3B Jim Clinton SS Jim Snyder LF Dan Patterson CF Joe McDermott RF Dick Hunt SP Martin Malone (2) Washington Olympics After a respectable 16-16 record in 1871, most talent on the Olympics was raided over the off-season, leaving only star 3B Fred Waterman and P Asa Brainard behind as starters. One of two teams from Washington, they will be hard-pressed to compete with teams like Boston and Baltimore C Frank Selman 1B Clipper Flynn 2B Tommy Beals 3B Frank Waterman (3) SS Wally Goldsmith LF John Glenn CF Henry Burroughs RF George Heubel SP Asa Brainard (9) Washington Nationals Though they were the first major team to play in the nation’s capitol, the Nationals are the second Washington team to play in the National Association. Despite the fact that there are no big names on the team, and their starting pitcher was a reliever in 19 games last season for the Olympics, the Nationals still hope to show that they belong in the professional leagues. C Bill Lennon 1B Joe Miller 2B Holly Hollingshead 3B Warren White SS Joe Doyle LF Ed Mincher CF Paul Hines RF Oscar Bielaski SP Bill Stearns Up Next: The 1872 Season Last edited by Vyper; 09-21-2007 at 08:20 PM.

09-23-2007, 05:25 PM	#22
Vyper Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 114	Hit a bit of snag with Baltimore and Boston's starting rosters for 1872. Apparently OOTP needs at least 11 players on the roster even with injuries turned off. Baltimore picked up an extra later in the season when Troy disbanded, Boston played the entire season with 10 players. The only way I can figure to get around it is to add a fictional player with severely decreased ratings for the period it's needed so the computer managers don't use them, then delete them. Hope to have the season posted later tonight or tomorrow. Last edited by Vyper; 09-23-2007 at 05:53 PM.