So you won the World Series, now what?

Falcon52 · 03-13-2003, 02:46 PM

I was curious what other managers do once they achieve that World Series title. I usually tend to go straight into rebuilding mode, letting older, high priced FA's go and instead go with youth. I don't really know why, but I never really try to go for it all two years in a row. Although this time I went for it. I won the World Series in 2009, and kept intact pretty much the same squad the following year, including signing some older guys that were eligible for free agency. But perhaps the fact that after a World championship my team always does terrible the next year, might be the reason I never bother for back to back titles. Case in point, I'm 40-41 with the exact same team that won it all the previous year, and this is despite the fact I had a really young pitching staff who went UP in ratings over the offseason, yet my team is below .500 and about 6 games back of the wildcard.

sporr · 03-13-2003, 02:56 PM

I always try for the repeat if my team is still young enough.

NYJuggalo45 · 03-13-2003, 03:08 PM

after i win i quit and take the year off and watch to see how my ex team does without me. also i scout the bottom feeder teams out, and eventually take one over starting the cycle again

rasnell · 03-13-2003, 03:29 PM

I agree with Falcon that it seems wise to ditch the big salaries and players over 30. They decline so markedly that I've never had back to back contenders after a World Series.

It seems like you can trade your big-money players, even in their final year, as long as you do it before they're approaching mid-30s. Can get some front-line prospects, sometimes even two, and I rush them into the majors if they already have good enough ratings.

I know it probably slows their development, but I've gotten some very good and young players that way at $300,000 compared to those $7-8 mil salaries.

Helps build the war chest for going and getting the expensive Free Agents if you really need them.

I set team cash maximum pretty high, $50 million, to reward turning a profit and keeping payroll in line. I don't use salary caps.

SSG Troyer · 03-14-2003, 11:47 AM

I've got a player on my team with my name. This uber-1B or SP was created after a bunch of simmed seasons, and I took over the team that drafted him. After I win the WS two times in a row, I scout the league for perennial low-market cellar-dweller squads and take one over before we sign coaches. I work an AI-acceptable trade for "me," (forcing the issue if I have to, but I never have) and start the process of building a crappy team into a powerhouse all over.

This year, I simply continued my OOTP4 league, and am simming the game out until "I" retire. Then I'll sim two years, and "my" son will enter the draft, and I'll start a Managerial Career.

William4192 · 03-15-2003, 07:14 PM

You have to go for it! If you don't make it back, so be it. But you "owe" it to the fans

Even if you have to "Celtic" it.

supatrupa · 03-15-2003, 07:27 PM

I am still playing OOTP4, and am now playing in the year 2045.

I've made the playoffs many, many times, but only to the World Series twice. My pitching always fails in the play-offs. Is it my coaching staff, or is it the pitcher's 'consistency' or 'clutch' rating?

DHS23 · 03-15-2003, 08:04 PM

I'm having trouble keeping a good team intact in v5, and I love it.

I squeaked in to the postseason in 2004, swept the first two rounds, then lost in 7 games in the WS. In 2005, I got in to the postseason easily, but once again lost in the WS, this time in 6 games. The next season, I got to the championship series, then lost.

That next season, I didn't even make the playoffs. I was two games out of the wild card race, and my team doesn't look like it'll be improving this season.

twins15 · 03-15-2003, 08:27 PM

I always try to repeat.

VT Os fan · 03-15-2003, 09:09 PM

Repeat as often as possible. I try to jack up the teams market and fan loyalty with a bunch of postseason appearances before I move to rebuild another team. Manager Mode will change this aspect of my play. Been too busy working to play enough seasons in OOTP5.

03-13-2003, 02:46 PM	#1
Falcon52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 615	So you won the World Series, now what? I was curious what other managers do once they achieve that World Series title. I usually tend to go straight into rebuilding mode, letting older, high priced FA's go and instead go with youth. I don't really know why, but I never really try to go for it all two years in a row. Although this time I went for it. I won the World Series in 2009, and kept intact pretty much the same squad the following year, including signing some older guys that were eligible for free agency. But perhaps the fact that after a World championship my team always does terrible the next year, might be the reason I never bother for back to back titles. Case in point, I'm 40-41 with the exact same team that won it all the previous year, and this is despite the fact I had a really young pitching staff who went UP in ratings over the offseason, yet my team is below .500 and about 6 games back of the wildcard.

03-13-2003, 03:08 PM	#3
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	after i win i quit and take the year off and watch to see how my ex team does without me. also i scout the bottom feeder teams out, and eventually take one over starting the cycle again __________________ This space for rent

03-13-2003, 03:29 PM	#4
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 3,746	I agree with Falcon that it seems wise to ditch the big salaries and players over 30. They decline so markedly that I've never had back to back contenders after a World Series. It seems like you can trade your big-money players, even in their final year, as long as you do it before they're approaching mid-30s. Can get some front-line prospects, sometimes even two, and I rush them into the majors if they already have good enough ratings. I know it probably slows their development, but I've gotten some very good and young players that way at $300,000 compared to those $7-8 mil salaries. Helps build the war chest for going and getting the expensive Free Agents if you really need them. I set team cash maximum pretty high, $50 million, to reward turning a profit and keeping payroll in line. I don't use salary caps. __________________ Charlie Root won more games for the Cubs than any pitcher (201), yet was remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth. Find out more about the 1929 World Series in my book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs." See the web site at www.rootforthecubs.com. The book is at http://www.amazon.com/Root-Cubs-Char...t+for+the+cubs. Beta tester, OOTP 2007-2023 and iOOTP 2011-2014.

03-14-2003, 11:47 AM	#5
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,598	I've got a player on my team with my name. This uber-1B or SP was created after a bunch of simmed seasons, and I took over the team that drafted him. After I win the WS two times in a row, I scout the league for perennial low-market cellar-dweller squads and take one over before we sign coaches. I work an AI-acceptable trade for "me," (forcing the issue if I have to, but I never have) and start the process of building a crappy team into a powerhouse all over. This year, I simply continued my OOTP4 league, and am simming the game out until "I" retire. Then I'll sim two years, and "my" son will enter the draft, and I'll start a Managerial Career. __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

03-15-2003, 07:14 PM	#6
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	You have to go for it! If you don't make it back, so be it. But you "owe" it to the fans Even if you have to "Celtic" it. __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com

03-13-2003, 02:56 PM	#2
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	I always try for the repeat if my team is still young enough.

03-15-2003, 07:27 PM	#7
supatrupa Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 11	still trying I am still playing OOTP4, and am now playing in the year 2045. I've made the playoffs many, many times, but only to the World Series twice. My pitching always fails in the play-offs. Is it my coaching staff, or is it the pitcher's 'consistency' or 'clutch' rating?

03-15-2003, 08:04 PM	#8
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	I'm having trouble keeping a good team intact in v5, and I love it. I squeaked in to the postseason in 2004, swept the first two rounds, then lost in 7 games in the WS. In 2005, I got in to the postseason easily, but once again lost in the WS, this time in 6 games. The next season, I got to the championship series, then lost. That next season, I didn't even make the playoffs. I was two games out of the wild card race, and my team doesn't look like it'll be improving this season.

03-15-2003, 08:27 PM	#9
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	I always try to repeat. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

03-15-2003, 09:09 PM	#10
VT Os fan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia Tech (Blacksburg, Virginia) Posts: 226	Repeat as often as possible. I try to jack up the teams market and fan loyalty with a bunch of postseason appearances before I move to rebuild another team. Manager Mode will change this aspect of my play. Been too busy working to play enough seasons in OOTP5. __________________ "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." -- Ayn Rand