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OldFatGuy · 06-29-2007, 06:44 PM

Never played OOTP X.X (any version). Total noobe. I have dial-up internet so didn't even try the download. Ordered the CD on the webstore and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. When it gets here, I hope you'll have a little patience with an old man, cause I'll probably be peppering the obvious brains on this forum with really, really, really, really, stupid questions. Sorry in advance

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1998 Yankees · 06-29-2007, 09:47 PM

OFG, no noob question is stupid. Noob questions are what this forum is for, so fire away! Just bear in mind that it may take some time to get answers, so you will need to be patient at times and wait until the obvious brains and other folks like me who just try hard can get back to you.

By the way, with dial-up access I won't bother recommending the online tutorials to you. You can hope that they include the manual with the CD that they are sending to you, but I would not count on that.

However, if you can see your way clear to tying up the phone for an hour or two, you would do well to download the manual and at least skim through that. It's 19.45 MB, so maybe you might want to download it late at night. Here's where to go: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=142142

They mention on that page that you need Adobe Reader, and provide the link to the Adobe web site. Hopefully you already have that program. Unfortunately, Adobe Reader version 8 by itself (unselecting the other stuff that they offer with it) is another 22.3 MB download; version 7 is 20.3 MB and version 6, which I believe you could still use, is 15.9 MB.

The manual is tremendous, but so is this game. I strongly recommend that you get the manual, one way or the other.

If all of this seems like too much downloading, however, then you will have to rely on the in-game help (press the F1 key) which is context-related and very helpful when it is available. Unfortunately, through the second patch, it is not completed, not available everywhere in the game, and some links take you nowhere or to error pages.

Well, I guess I and a bunch of others will be talking to you. Good luck!

Kelric · 06-29-2007, 10:37 PM

I try to pop in here when I remember to do so. No question is a bad question.

eriqjaffe · 06-29-2007, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

They mention on that page that you need Adobe Reader, and provide the link to the Adobe web site. Hopefully you already have that program. Unfortunately, Adobe Reader version 8 by itself (unselecting the other stuff that they offer with it) is another 22.3 MB download; version 7 is 20.3 MB and version 6, which I believe you could still use, is 15.9 MB.

If you don't want to download the bloated Adobe Reader, the manual works just fine with Foxit Reader, which is a nice, tidy 1.5mb.

Scottiedog · 06-30-2007, 07:30 AM

If I can help just holler. I seldom get into posting but have played OOTP from just about the start.

sofla97 · 06-30-2007, 08:26 AM

We have some very talented people here making everything from roster sets,logos,uniforms,etc. Be sure to check out the Mods section. The customization in this game is incredible.

OldFatGuy · 06-30-2007, 12:01 PM

Thanks guys. BTW, BEFORE I ordered it and paid for it, I e-mailed customer service and the assured me the CD would be the very latest version (2.02 if I'm looking correctly) AND would include the very latest manual but suggested I email (viatech???) I think it was, so as soon as I processed my credit card I fired away that email. I too, hope I get the latest manual.

Anyway, thanks again, I just hope you'll continue to be patient after I've asked questions that have already been answered a gazillioin times.
(I will do searches here as I've been perusing for some time before I finally ordered)

Raidergoo · 06-30-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Thanks guys. BTW, BEFORE I ordered it and paid for it, I e-mailed customer service and the assured me the CD would be the very latest version (2.02 if I'm looking correctly) AND would include the very latest manual but suggested I email (viatech???) I think it was, so as soon as I processed my credit card I fired away that email. I too, hope I get the latest manual.

Anyway, thanks again, I just hope you'll continue to be patient after I've asked questions that have already been answered a gazillioin times.
(I will do searches here as I've been perusing for some time before I finally ordered)

This is the place you want to be.

Welcome aboard.

Bucman · 07-03-2007, 01:57 PM

I'm new to this game too. I've been playing the demo for a couple of days now and loving it. One quick question. While playing a game there are little popup windows that appear off and on with what looks to be notes from scouts, sort of a tutorial. On my system they only appear for a second so I don't have time to read them fully. Is this a common problem?

1998 Yankees · 07-03-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucman

I'm new to this game too. I've been playing the demo for a couple of days now and loving it. One quick question. While playing a game there are little popup windows that appear off and on with what looks to be notes from scouts, sort of a tutorial. On my system they only appear for a second so I don't have time to read them fully. Is this a common problem?

If it's this kind of window, no, it's not a problem. In this year's version, they put a hints file in the game that displays whenever the program has to wait while something is loading. It's just entertainment rather than sitting and watching the progress bar move. As a matter of fact, it's a good sign that your computer is so fast that the messages go by too quickly for you to read. However, depending on what you do with the game and how long you play it, I think eventually you will have enough time to read all of the hints that come with the game.

Bucman · 07-03-2007, 04:33 PM

Thanks for the reply. Now that you mention it, the screens do pop up when something is loading. I think it's between innings when I'm playing out a game. Good to know I'm not missing anything important. I need all the help I can get, I'm 4-8 starting out the season.

My pitching has been killing me but a got a complete game shutout from my starter last game. This game is awesome.

OldFatGuy, be careful of the finish today button on the home page. If you're like me and like to play a lot of the games out rather than sim them do so before you go on to the next day. Otherwise, the game will be simmed for you. Hope you get your game soon.

1998 Yankees · 07-03-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucman

This game is awesome.

Yes. Yes it is, indeed.

OldFatGuy · 07-04-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Yes. Yes it is, indeed.

Oh maaan, its July 4th and still no disc!!!! Man I want, I want, I want. Wonder how long 71 megs over dial-up would take ?????????

Raidergoo · 07-04-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Oh maaan, its July 4th and still no disc!!!! Man I want, I want, I want. Wonder how long 71 megs over dial-up would take ?????????

5-10 hours...

Zeyes · 07-05-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

5-10 hours...

FWIW, I used to download ~12 MB per hour over a piddlin' 31.2kbit line "back in the day". Maybe it's presumptious of me to think that OldFatGuy has a 56k connection, but if he does 71 MB shouldn't take much more than about 3 hours.

OldFatGuy · 07-06-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeyes

FWIW, I used to download ~12 MB per hour over a piddlin' 31.2kbit line "back in the day". Maybe it's presumptious of me to think that OldFatGuy has a 56k connection, but if he does 71 MB shouldn't take much more than about 3 hours.

Yeah, I have a 56k modem, P-4, 2.5Gig system, but in downloading other things I have timed I am getting 1 meg between 4 and 5 minutes (closer to 5). I'm guessing you're actual speeds were a bit faster than 33K (possible) or my speeds are slower than 56K (more possible.) Anyway, I did the math and I'm thinking between 5 and 6 hours. And the bad part is I actually tried once a couple of weeks ago, went to sleep, and woke up to a message saying "Your ISP has disconnected you because of lack of activity." So, I had pretty much decided I wasn't going to sit in front of my computer and press a key every few minutes for 5 or 6 hours, BUT, today is Friday and still NO DISC. Aaaarrrrrggghhh! I may have to rethink sitting in front of my computer for 5 hours, I was really hoping to play this weekend.

Bucman · 07-06-2007, 08:28 PM

I'm on dial up here too, still can't get high speed in my area yet. It took me around 6 hours to download. Some ISP's will disconnect after a certain time. Maybe you could give yours a call and see if that's the case for you. If so, they should be able to help you with that. Good luck.

OldFatGuy · 07-06-2007, 08:45 PM

Yeah, its not available here either. Everytime I see one of those Verizon (I'm on east coast in No. Va.) commercials for DSL for $14.95, I call and plead, beg, and each time I go through the motions and get the same answer, this service is not available in your area. And you know what, it's not gonna be now because they aren't running DSL lines anymore, they are running fiber optics now, for Verizons FIOS hi-speed service. I'm sure it will be blazingly fast, but I'm bettin it won't be $14.95 a month.
Anyway, guess I really have no choice but to wait for the disc. If it's not here in another week, I'll probably just have to give up.

lloydbentsen · 07-06-2007, 10:32 PM

As lame as it may sound, you could get a real cheap flash drive, which is useful anyway. Take it to the library and use their connection to DL it.

Off topic: I started out playing Baseball Mogul and I could swear that I've seen your name posting on that board before. Are you converting like me?

OldFatGuy · 07-07-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lloydbentsen

As lame as it may sound, you could get a real cheap flash drive, which is useful anyway. Take it to the library and use their connection to DL it.

Off topic: I started out playing Baseball Mogul and I could swear that I've seen your name posting on that board before. Are you converting like me?

I'll tell you the truth, I went to the nearest library, (small town of Purcellville, this was also a couple of weeks ago), and they said I could download stuff but only if I bought their storage devices because of viruses, etc. Their storage devices were, (ready for this) 3 1/2 inch diskettes, you know the old 1.44 MB (???? memory might not be right on that). My son and his other half have high speed and he offered a few days ago because I did ask him to download a few other things for me (RL related), but I was like, no I'll have my disc in a couple of days now. Guess I should've taken him up on it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I do want to get a flash drive. I don't even own one. It's a USB hook-up right?? Anyway, about how much do they run????

06-29-2007, 06:44 PM	#1
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,902	Just a Heads Up Never played OOTP X.X (any version). Total noobe. I have dial-up internet so didn't even try the download. Ordered the CD on the webstore and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. When it gets here, I hope you'll have a little patience with an old man, cause I'll probably be peppering the obvious brains on this forum with really, really, really, really, stupid questions. Sorry in advance .

06-30-2007, 07:30 AM	#5
Scottiedog All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a van...down by the river! Posts: 745	If I can help just holler. I seldom get into posting but have played OOTP from just about the start. __________________ President Ronald Wilson Reagan "Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem. " ******** Giovani della Casa "I cannot divine how it happens that the man who knows the least is the most argumentative”**

07-06-2007, 10:32 PM	#19
lloydbentsen Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 146	As lame as it may sound, you could get a real cheap flash drive, which is useful anyway. Take it to the library and use their connection to DL it. Off topic: I started out playing Baseball Mogul and I could swear that I've seen your name posting on that board before. Are you converting like me? Last edited by lloydbentsen; 07-06-2007 at 10:35 PM.

06-29-2007, 09:47 PM	#2
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	OFG, no noob question is stupid. Noob questions are what this forum is for, so fire away! Just bear in mind that it may take some time to get answers, so you will need to be patient at times and wait until the obvious brains and other folks like me who just try hard can get back to you. By the way, with dial-up access I won't bother recommending the online tutorials to you. You can hope that they include the manual with the CD that they are sending to you, but I would not count on that. However, if you can see your way clear to tying up the phone for an hour or two, you would do well to download the manual and at least skim through that. It's 19.45 MB, so maybe you might want to download it late at night. Here's where to go: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=142142 They mention on that page that you need Adobe Reader, and provide the link to the Adobe web site. Hopefully you already have that program. Unfortunately, Adobe Reader version 8 by itself (unselecting the other stuff that they offer with it) is another 22.3 MB download; version 7 is 20.3 MB and version 6, which I believe you could still use, is 15.9 MB. The manual is tremendous, but so is this game. I strongly recommend that you get the manual, one way or the other. If all of this seems like too much downloading, however, then you will have to rely on the in-game help (press the F1 key) which is context-related and very helpful when it is available. Unfortunately, through the second patch, it is not completed, not available everywhere in the game, and some links take you nowhere or to error pages. Well, I guess I and a bunch of others will be talking to you. Good luck!

06-29-2007, 10:37 PM	#3
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I try to pop in here when I remember to do so. No question is a bad question.

06-30-2007, 08:26 AM	#6
sofla97 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 169	We have some very talented people here making everything from roster sets,logos,uniforms,etc. Be sure to check out the Mods section. The customization in this game is incredible.

06-30-2007, 12:01 PM	#7
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,902	Thanks guys. BTW, BEFORE I ordered it and paid for it, I e-mailed customer service and the assured me the CD would be the very latest version (2.02 if I'm looking correctly) AND would include the very latest manual but suggested I email (viatech???) I think it was, so as soon as I processed my credit card I fired away that email. I too, hope I get the latest manual. Anyway, thanks again, I just hope you'll continue to be patient after I've asked questions that have already been answered a gazillioin times. (I will do searches here as I've been perusing for some time before I finally ordered)

07-03-2007, 01:57 PM	#9
Bucman Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 10	I'm new to this game too. I've been playing the demo for a couple of days now and loving it. One quick question. While playing a game there are little popup windows that appear off and on with what looks to be notes from scouts, sort of a tutorial. On my system they only appear for a second so I don't have time to read them fully. Is this a common problem?

07-03-2007, 04:33 PM	#11
Bucman Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 10	Thanks for the reply. Now that you mention it, the screens do pop up when something is loading. I think it's between innings when I'm playing out a game. Good to know I'm not missing anything important. I need all the help I can get, I'm 4-8 starting out the season. My pitching has been killing me but a got a complete game shutout from my starter last game. This game is awesome. OldFatGuy, be careful of the finish today button on the home page. If you're like me and like to play a lot of the games out rather than sim them do so before you go on to the next day. Otherwise, the game will be simmed for you. Hope you get your game soon.

07-06-2007, 08:28 PM	#17
Bucman Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 10	I'm on dial up here too, still can't get high speed in my area yet. It took me around 6 hours to download. Some ISP's will disconnect after a certain time. Maybe you could give yours a call and see if that's the case for you. If so, they should be able to help you with that. Good luck.

07-06-2007, 08:45 PM	#18
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,902	Yeah, its not available here either. Everytime I see one of those Verizon (I'm on east coast in No. Va.) commercials for DSL for $14.95, I call and plead, beg, and each time I go through the motions and get the same answer, this service is not available in your area. And you know what, it's not gonna be now because they aren't running DSL lines anymore, they are running fiber optics now, for Verizons FIOS hi-speed service. I'm sure it will be blazingly fast, but I'm bettin it won't be $14.95 a month. Anyway, guess I really have no choice but to wait for the disc. If it's not here in another week, I'll probably just have to give up.