CubbyFan23/haveband Roster Release Thread

[TartanMetsFan]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

That is certainly odd. I thought perhaps the problem may have been that the teams need to put them on waivers because they're out of option years, but the guys you're mentioning have 0 options used.

Anyone with thoughts?

I assume it is to do with making room on the 40 man roster rather than option years?

Are the teams perhaps set up to initally have more than 40 guys on the extended roster, forcing the game to DFA some of them immediately?

In that case the solution would be to re-jig the roster assignment for each team, moving some of the prospects off of the 40 man roster?

[CubbyFan23]

I thought that was what it was, but actually I turned everything off, let the computer automanage, then turned everything back on so that they have their team setup the way they want initially (so they won't DFA a ton of 40-man guys off the bat).

What's really strange is the guys they're DFAing are guys who AREN'T on the 40-man and have no reason to be DFA'd like Fernando Martinez for the Mets, etc.

[TartanMetsFan]

It might be more of a game engine thing than a roster set thing.

Just loaded up the previous set i used (airmen smith i think) and the same problem happens, day 1 has loads of prospects on waivers with no reason.

I also notice as i play through that the AI teams hardly ever make waiver claims. I can pass some decent players through waivers without claims.

[injury log]

Are you turning waivers on on Jan 1? If you wait a while to turn waivers on, does the problem still exist?

[CubbyFan23]

http://files.filefront.com/CFhb+v21z.../fileinfo.html

Newest file, fixed league totals and some FA's added.

[Go Tribe]

Originally Posted by Eddie Paxil

First, foremost, & most important. Thanks to: Cubbyfan23, haveband, Muzamba, injury.log, IcySpanish, Exodor, Underlined.i, rdklein, & everyone Cubby didn't mention. Thanks, that's a lot of hard work and sharing all that work deserves more than a thank you can cover.

As for my analysis, I ran a two year sim, and even added college & high school feeders. I find the set to be solid, but I see why you made a list of issues you already knew about.

1) The financial are solid, just arranged add is all. Second season all was good. Didn't find this to be major.

2) League Totals I found pretty solid too. Averaged out over two years more so. AL Pitchers were fine in my sim. Johan Santana even won the pitching triple crown in the AL.

3) The biggest thing which I found was the ratings of prospects. You were right on that. You may have even understated the issue. (Tim Lincecum 2007 total 300 K's) Tampa Bay has performed way too well in every test sim I've seen and done . Washington won the NL wildcard in my 2007 just beating out the Marlins. This must be a reflection of the prospect ratings. Maybe, this has some impact on my 4th point.

4)I also had a slew of weird releases like the ones you've mentioned. Craig Biggio (didn't get his 3,000 hits), Tim Wakefield, & similar players of high age & experience. I also had guys like Homer Bailey released. All before the season started. I'm wondering if the releases in general don't maybe have something to do with the AI's perception of the odd financial arrangement. Maybe, the release of older, experienced, high salary guys has to do with the very high ratings of prospects in all the teams systems.

Otherwise no crashes, errors, anything else wrong. A solid set. I thought you'd just want to see what type of results other folks are getting. I'm in waiting in one of the leagues planning on using your set, I can see it's going to be worth the wait. Thanks to all again.

PS: No Joke- I have one eye. Maybe that's why I don't see the Pulaski Blue Jays anywhere.

most gm's would cut biggio in real life if you just look at age, salary and production

[Ruthian23]

Originally Posted by Go Tribe

most gm's would cut biggio in real life if you just look at age, salary and production

They'd have to pay his salary anyway, so that wouldn't be a reason to cut him. I think that most GMs would keep him a guy like him because of his popularity (and the fact that you're going to have to pay him whether you cut him or not.) If you saved salary money by cutting a guy like they do in the NFL, a lot of the top salaried guys who aren't performing much any more would be cut.

And if I'm reading the above correctly, there are major issues when waivers are on, but as long as they're turned off things are okay?

[CubbyFan23]

Yep without them on we're okay, also I think (I'm actually playing finally!) that if you just wait to turn them on until after the teams assign their 25-man rosters after spring training for the first year you should be okay.

[swmlon]

First off, thank you and any members that had any role to play in getting this roster set out, i am happily in my 3rd season already trying to win it all with the mets (made the WS but lost out to Indians).

but one thing i noticed was that all the players years are out by one year.

for example glavine was born in 1966 but the game has him at 1967. i have checked for random players and this seems to be the case for all.

did have much of an effect on the game, as they are all a year younger i got an extra year with glaving (who now has retired with 328 wins ;-))

thank again for the work.

[CubbyFan23]

Yeah I had tried to fix that before with a universal push back of age by one year, but for some reason it didn't effect all of the players. Going to look at that later as to what we can do to fix it without taking eight years.

[GXMarc]

Hello Folks there!!

I´m an absolute beginner of the game and tried to get your Roster in my OOTP 2007-Game. IO downloaded it and make an "Saved Game"-Directory.. and the only way to get the data in the game is to Import an "OOTP-2006-Game"... what am i doing wrong?!? Because with this import i cannot change the Manager-Name and so on...

I´m sorry for my bad english... hope you understand!! And thank you for any help!!

[injury log]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

That is certainly odd. I thought perhaps the problem may have been that the teams need to put them on waivers because they're out of option years, but the guys you're mentioning have 0 options used.

Anyone with thoughts?

I think the issue is this, although this is partly guesswork-

-in the roster set, there are several AAA guys with ratings close to the ratings of players on the ML roster. In OOTP, ratings fluctuate quite a lot. If an AAA guy gets a slight boost, or the ML guy a slight hit, the AAA guy seems like a better use of the roster spot, and the AI waives or releases the ML guy. Because ratings are fluctuating all the time, the AI makes a lot of these kinds of moves (although Markus pointed out once that there is a 'patience buffer' to prevent too many such moves- http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar.../t-147379.html )- Fernando Martinez with the Mets might overtake a 40-man outfielder briefly, then be overtaken a month later and be removed from the roster. Some of the quirky roster moves in the set aren't because players are rated too poorly, but because the teams have substitutes in the minors who overtake the major league players. Jeff Weaver, for example, has been released in both my sims because the AI wants to use Robert Rohrbaugh in his place. Some of the high potential prospects also quickly get Overall ratings good enough to get them on a roster, leading established players to be dropped. I expect it would help to reduce the overall ratings of many of the prospects and AAA players in the set; some are reaching the majors too fast. I've run a sim, and made a list of minor leaguers who surprisingly ended up as starters on ML rosters, which I'll post to the ratings thread.

[jff1515155]

Using the new roster, the listing for the AL ERA Leaders is all messed up. It shows relivers and minor leagues as leaders, not qualified, yet the NL ERA Leaders are OK. ???? Has anyone else seen this???

[injury log]

jff- yes, I've seen this as well, but I'm not sure why it's happening. I'm going to look in the setups now.

[cameron]

JFF
I think why this is happening is because the leaders are being taken from 2006 stats....Brian Bruney had 0.87 ERA in 19 games with the 2006 Yankees...he's now on the Trenton Thunder roster...All players will show this way if they are now on Minor League rosters and had stats on Major League teams.

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by cameron

JFF
I think why this is happening is because the leaders are being taken from 2006 stats....Brian Bruney had 0.87 ERA in 19 games with the 2006 Yankees...he's now on the Trenton Thunder roster...All players will show this way if they are now on Minor League rosters and had stats on Major League teams.

Seen this as well when I imported Jose Lima as a FA, he popped up on the Mets leaders (even though the season hadn't started).

Going through now and "dumbing down" some prospects that are overtaking the ML'ers like IL said, I'm hoping to have a 2.2 set out tonight with more FAs, coaches, and those players knocked down a notch.

[Exodor]

Anyone having trouble with "invisible" players?

For example, on the Royals Scott Elarton is listed on the salaries page and if you do a search and bring up his player card he's shown as on the KC active roster - but he's not listed on the 25 or 40 man rosters.

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by Exodor

Anyone having trouble with "invisible" players?

For example, on the Royals Scott Elarton is listed on the salaries page and if you do a search and bring up his player card he's shown as on the KC active roster - but he's not listed on the 25 or 40 man rosters.

He's on the 60-day DL

[GXMarc]

Originally Posted by GXMarc

Hello Folks there!!

I´m an absolute beginner of the game and tried to get your Roster in my OOTP 2007-Game. IO downloaded it and make an "Saved Game"-Directory.. and the only way to get the data in the game is to Import an "OOTP-2006-Game"... what am i doing wrong?!? Because with this import i cannot change the Manager-Name and so on...

I´m sorry for my bad english... hope you understand!! And thank you for any help!!

Nobody here to give me a short answer??

[injury log]

GX- would love to help, but we need more information. What operating system are you on (Mac, Windows XP, Vista)? Did you unzip the file?