Players drastically getting worse 2 months into season

BBALLisLFE · 06-01-2007, 04:44 PM

Has anyone had any problems with the ratings and potential ratings of players decreasing so rapidly (2 months) into a season? I've had 4 and 5 star young potential drop to 1 star potential mid-season...and some are even hitting above .300 in the big leagues. Gary Sheffield's ratings diminished completely and was released as a result...he wasn't injured either. Anyone know how to stop this from happening?

Thanks,

Jared

molarmite · 06-01-2007, 08:26 PM

It happens to me too, and that's baseball, stuff like that happens.

BBALLisLFE · 06-01-2007, 10:11 PM

It happens to 10-12 big time prospects that are in the big leagues hitting above .300? I don't think so. Potential doesn't go from 5 stars to 1 in 2 months, especially with good numbers. Anyone else see a problem with this?

zekester91 · 06-04-2007, 11:39 AM

did you change scouts, are scouts even involved. did they change teams, they may have been A prospects to the A scout but only 1 star prospects to the AA scout.

BBALLisLFE · 06-04-2007, 05:33 PM

scouting system is off. I just have the SISA scout the players. It happened to prospects in the big leagues and prospects in the minors. It's very weird.

1998 Yankees · 06-04-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BBALLisLFE

Anyone know how to stop this from happening?

I tried to get people to talk about this in another thread with no success, but I am thinking about reducing the Talent Change Randomness setting to a fraction of default. It reduces the frequency, not the severity, of talent changes but you would see less of this kind of thing happening. Anybody else have an opinion on this option?

RonCo · 06-04-2007, 06:24 PM

Per numbers I've posted in other threads, I would expect this could happen to a few players per year--generally younger guys.

RonCo · 06-04-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BBALLisLFE

It happens to 10-12 big time prospects that are in the big leagues hitting above .300? I don't think so. Potential doesn't go from 5 stars to 1 in 2 months, especially with good numbers. Anyone else see a problem with this?

There are lots of guys who start out blazing, then have the league catch up with them, so numbers mean very little in just a few months time. The issue is related to the talent changes dynamic that we've been discussing heavily in the other thread.

AD31 · 06-04-2007, 09:41 PM

I have a fictional league, with scouts on. I traded away a bunch of guys to grab a pitcher (19 yrs old) with high poptential, above 70 on a 20-80 scale. Within the first year in my A ball league, his potential dropped to the 20's.

The next year, I recieved an email saying they had noticed a hitch in his delivery, and his potential jumped back up to high 70's (I had all my scouts scout him to confirm, as best as possible). He started to do pretty well, but then was hit with an injury that kept him out 12 months.

He is now almost 21, his potential is back down to 20. He is doing alright in A ball, I will soon promote him and see how he does at AA.

I am not sure though how I feel about this development though. On one hand, I like the way he dropped, then after discovering a "hitch" his potential went back up. This is just one example, there might be more, that I have not noticed.
But on the other hand it feels somewhat disjointed. I would like to see his potential stay the same, but tht he would continue to get rocked in the low league. Then when they correct the delivery, he would begin to put it together. Maybe for simplicity sake, this is the easiest or most efficient way to model it.
But I did like the way he went up and down, and it makes me think I will not be giving up on busted prospects in the future.
Uggh, this post was not very well worded, hope it is not too jumbled.

DrSatan · 06-04-2007, 10:36 PM

I had this same problem and changed the talent change frequency from 100 to 50. This seems to have fixed the problem. It also seems to have solved a problem I was having with guys bottoming out after the age of 30-32. Even with aging settings lowered, I still had superstars that would crap out around the age of 30. Granted that does happen in real life, but the frequency I was getting was too high.

Curtis · 07-08-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

I tried to get people to talk about this in another thread with no success, but I am thinking about reducing the Talent Change Randomness setting to a fraction of default.

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Originally Posted by DrSatan

I had this same problem and changed the talent change frequency from 100 to 50.

I also tried to start a conversation on this before I went walkabout, but nobody seemed to know how frequent changes are NOW, so no one had an idea what the frequency should be changed to.

I'd like to have potential change no more often than once a year; would changing frequency from 100 to 50 accomplish that? I'm tempted to set the frequency to 'never', but that would probably defeat the purpose of scouting and of drafting late round players.

06-01-2007, 04:44 PM	#1
BBALLisLFE Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 95	Players drastically getting worse 2 months into season Has anyone had any problems with the ratings and potential ratings of players decreasing so rapidly (2 months) into a season? I've had 4 and 5 star young potential drop to 1 star potential mid-season...and some are even hitting above .300 in the big leagues. Gary Sheffield's ratings diminished completely and was released as a result...he wasn't injured either. Anyone know how to stop this from happening? Thanks, Jared

06-01-2007, 08:26 PM	#2
molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,924	It happens to me too, and that's baseball, stuff like that happens. __________________ From the wise mind of Davey Eckstein "Now all you need is a signature. A quote or initial, perhaps." [

06-01-2007, 10:11 PM	#3
BBALLisLFE Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 95	It happens to 10-12 big time prospects that are in the big leagues hitting above .300? I don't think so. Potential doesn't go from 5 stars to 1 in 2 months, especially with good numbers. Anyone else see a problem with this?

06-04-2007, 11:39 AM	#4
zekester91 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,122	did you change scouts, are scouts even involved. did they change teams, they may have been A prospects to the A scout but only 1 star prospects to the AA scout.

06-04-2007, 05:33 PM	#5
BBALLisLFE Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 95	scouting system is off. I just have the SISA scout the players. It happened to prospects in the big leagues and prospects in the minors. It's very weird.

06-04-2007, 06:24 PM	#7
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,457	Per numbers I've posted in other threads, I would expect this could happen to a few players per year--generally younger guys.

06-04-2007, 09:41 PM	#9
AD31 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 302	I have a fictional league, with scouts on. I traded away a bunch of guys to grab a pitcher (19 yrs old) with high poptential, above 70 on a 20-80 scale. Within the first year in my A ball league, his potential dropped to the 20's. The next year, I recieved an email saying they had noticed a hitch in his delivery, and his potential jumped back up to high 70's (I had all my scouts scout him to confirm, as best as possible). He started to do pretty well, but then was hit with an injury that kept him out 12 months. He is now almost 21, his potential is back down to 20. He is doing alright in A ball, I will soon promote him and see how he does at AA. I am not sure though how I feel about this development though. On one hand, I like the way he dropped, then after discovering a "hitch" his potential went back up. This is just one example, there might be more, that I have not noticed. But on the other hand it feels somewhat disjointed. I would like to see his potential stay the same, but tht he would continue to get rocked in the low league. Then when they correct the delivery, he would begin to put it together. Maybe for simplicity sake, this is the easiest or most efficient way to model it. But I did like the way he went up and down, and it makes me think I will not be giving up on busted prospects in the future. Uggh, this post was not very well worded, hope it is not too jumbled.

06-04-2007, 10:36 PM	#10
DrSatan All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 601	I had this same problem and changed the talent change frequency from 100 to 50. This seems to have fixed the problem. It also seems to have solved a problem I was having with guys bottoming out after the age of 30-32. Even with aging settings lowered, I still had superstars that would crap out around the age of 30. Granted that does happen in real life, but the frequency I was getting was too high.