Biggest Prospect Busts!

potatoman · 03-09-2003, 12:05 AM

In the REAL ML, i think these are the BIGGEST busts....some i don't know that much about but i researched them
1. Todd Van Poppel-reason....Braves passed him and picked Chipper Jones and As got him and everyone laughed at the Braves for passing up the hottest pitcher who was supposed to dominate baseball
2. Brien Taylor-just researched about himmm
3. Shawn Abner
4. Ruben Rivera
5. Paul Coleman
6. David Nied
7. Bill Pulsipher
8. Paul Wilson
9. Jim Pittsley
10.Ben McDonald

Anyone got any real life players to add to list? or any of ur league prospects and tell us about them

John C · 03-09-2003, 12:13 AM

Abner, yes...I'd agree with that. I'm from the same town he is, the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg PA area...he now is a hitting instructor or something, offering his services in the want ads.

I saw Pulsipher throw a no-hitter against the Harrisburg Senators to knock them out of the EL playoffs in 1994.

I'll have to research some others, because there are several I'm forgetting...I played with a former first-round pick of the Phillies, Chad McConnell, on my old sandlot team...had to retire at 30 due to back pain. Didn't even make it through the entire sandlot season...I felt horrible for him.

-John

Michael Xavier · 03-09-2003, 12:13 AM

Everyone's favorite -- Sam Horn

metball4 · 03-09-2003, 12:14 AM

I aggree with you, but not with Paul Wilson. When you pick a big prospect, 1/100 become what they were said to become..a star. But paul wilson is a decent pitcure, i dont think thats a big bust. You cant ever expect someone to be a star. Maybe you can expect somone to do well, but never become a star.

Go Tribe · 03-09-2003, 12:14 AM

i hate the braves - i hope the mets beat them like bobby cox beat his wife - but no one laughed at the braves when they passed on van poppel - van poppel's agent made outrageous contract demands prior to the draft and basically stated that todd would pull a jd drew

potatoman · 03-09-2003, 12:15 AM

maybe but i think Van Poppel was the most overated

John C · 03-09-2003, 12:20 AM

Ah...Pat Jordan, another prospect bust. A "can't miss" with the old Milwaukee Braves...of course, he turned his experiences into two unforgettable books ("A False Spring", and "A Nice Tuesday", I believe). Both are books I highly reccommend.

-John

hookman · 03-09-2003, 12:43 AM

Ryan Minor - Orioles
Shane Mack - Padres
Ron Jones - Phillies (blew out both knees in same season I believe)
Joe Charboneau - Indians
David Clyde - Rangers

MrWorkrate · 03-09-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by Go Tribe
but no one laughed at the braves when they passed on van poppel - van poppel's agent made outrageous contract demands prior to the draft and basically stated that todd would pull a jd drew

From what I remember, Van Poppel had the scholarship from the University of Texas as his bargaining point, and more or less stated that he wasn't going to play for a "horrible team" like the Braves. The Braves were the laughingstock of the National League at the time, and Van Poppel figured he'd take his scholarship and not sign if a team that he didn't like drafted him. The Braves, scared off, went and drafted Chipper.

However, the A's (who had a pretty good team then) drafted him and got him to give up the scholarship to pitch in their system.

At least he didn't shoot his entire career down the toilet because of a bar fight.

potatoman · 03-09-2003, 01:33 AM

ehh i got my facts wrong sorry....still Chipper is way better than Van Poppel

holyroller · 03-09-2003, 03:07 AM

Paul Wilson simply does not belong on that list. He got hurt, twice, and has come back and turned in to a servicable pitcher. None of the rest of the list could carry his jock.

Go Tribe · 03-09-2003, 10:30 AM

we're not saying that van poppell wasn't a bust - he was a huge one - just refuting the "everyone laughed at the braves" comment.

joe charboneau is a stretch - guy won rookie of the year and got injured.

i'd say cory snyder (sorta), mark lewis (definitely), earl cunningham, roger salkeld would be candidates

jmaness84 · 03-09-2003, 10:53 AM

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Everyone's favorite -- Sam Horn

He was Babe Ruth in my historical career

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Shane Mack - Padres

.299 lifetime hitter a career bust?? He was on my most hated baseball team of all time. The 91 Twins!!

Shane Mack Stats.

hookman · 03-09-2003, 11:42 AM

Don Peters and David Zancanaro...two of the Oakland A's "Four Aces". Kirk Dressendorfer would be included but he had an arm injury. And the other Ace? -- Todd Van Poppel.

woody5254 · 03-09-2003, 12:55 PM

Gregg Jefferies was the most hyped prospect I can remember. He ended up being a very solid player, but never quite lived up to the superstar billing.

Rasmuth · 03-10-2003, 02:53 PM

Steve Henderson of the Mets...late 70's era

Steve Kuffrey · 03-10-2003, 10:24 PM

Oh man, I thought this said "Biggest Busts"......

potatoman · 03-10-2003, 10:35 PM

lol

spleen1015 · 03-11-2003, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by Michael Xavier
Everyone's favorite -- Sam Horn

I'm still trying to get him into the ABA!

jrdoa · 03-11-2003, 10:23 AM

I could be wrong, but wasn't Cle/Atl Brad Komminsk regarded a can't miss prospect? Also, the White Sox pitching staff of the late 80's...Scott Ruffcorn, Johhny Ruffin.

03-09-2003, 12:05 AM	#1
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Biggest Prospect Busts! In the REAL ML, i think these are the BIGGEST busts....some i don't know that much about but i researched them 1. Todd Van Poppel-reason....Braves passed him and picked Chipper Jones and As got him and everyone laughed at the Braves for passing up the hottest pitcher who was supposed to dominate baseball 2. Brien Taylor-just researched about himmm 3. Shawn Abner 4. Ruben Rivera 5. Paul Coleman 6. David Nied 7. Bill Pulsipher 8. Paul Wilson 9. Jim Pittsley 10.Ben McDonald Anyone got any real life players to add to list? or any of ur league prospects and tell us about them

03-09-2003, 12:13 AM	#2
John C Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Albion, RI Posts: 2,285 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Abner, yes...I'd agree with that. I'm from the same town he is, the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg PA area...he now is a hitting instructor or something, offering his services in the want ads. I saw Pulsipher throw a no-hitter against the Harrisburg Senators to knock them out of the EL playoffs in 1994. I'll have to research some others, because there are several I'm forgetting...I played with a former first-round pick of the Phillies, Chad McConnell, on my old sandlot team...had to retire at 30 due to back pain. Didn't even make it through the entire sandlot season...I felt horrible for him. -John __________________ Facebook \| My Videos

03-09-2003, 12:13 AM	#3
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03-09-2003, 12:14 AM	#4
metball4 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 328	I aggree with you, but not with Paul Wilson. When you pick a big prospect, 1/100 become what they were said to become..a star. But paul wilson is a decent pitcure, i dont think thats a big bust. You cant ever expect someone to be a star. Maybe you can expect somone to do well, but never become a star. __________________ Mets in 2003...or 2074 Lets Go Mets!

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potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	maybe but i think Van Poppel was the most overated __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

03-09-2003, 12:14 AM	#5
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	i hate the braves - i hope the mets beat them like bobby cox beat his wife - but no one laughed at the braves when they passed on van poppel - van poppel's agent made outrageous contract demands prior to the draft and basically stated that todd would pull a jd drew

03-09-2003, 12:20 AM	#7
John C Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Albion, RI Posts: 2,285 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Ah...Pat Jordan, another prospect bust. A "can't miss" with the old Milwaukee Braves...of course, he turned his experiences into two unforgettable books ("A False Spring", and "A Nice Tuesday", I believe). Both are books I highly reccommend. -John __________________ Facebook \| My Videos

03-09-2003, 12:43 AM	#8
hookman Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 19	Ryan Minor - Orioles Shane Mack - Padres Ron Jones - Phillies (blew out both knees in same season I believe) Joe Charboneau - Indians David Clyde - Rangers

03-09-2003, 01:33 AM	#10
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	ehh i got my facts wrong sorry....still Chipper is way better than Van Poppel __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

03-09-2003, 03:07 AM	#11
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Paul Wilson simply does not belong on that list. He got hurt, twice, and has come back and turned in to a servicable pitcher. None of the rest of the list could carry his jock. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

03-09-2003, 10:30 AM	#12
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	we're not saying that van poppell wasn't a bust - he was a huge one - just refuting the "everyone laughed at the braves" comment. joe charboneau is a stretch - guy won rookie of the year and got injured. i'd say cory snyder (sorta), mark lewis (definitely), earl cunningham, roger salkeld would be candidates

03-09-2003, 11:42 AM	#14
hookman Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 19	Don Peters and David Zancanaro...two of the Oakland A's "Four Aces". Kirk Dressendorfer would be included but he had an arm injury. And the other Ace? -- Todd Van Poppel.

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jrdoa Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 151	I could be wrong, but wasn't Cle/Atl Brad Komminsk regarded a can't miss prospect? Also, the White Sox pitching staff of the late 80's...Scott Ruffcorn, Johhny Ruffin.