This is the Year! 2007 Cubs Win Thread! - Page 6

Luis_Rivera · 05-11-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

Luck? If there is such a thing in baseball, then there also must truth to the "team chemistry" theory.

Thanks, for pointing that out.

Uh, no... they're two completely unrelated things. Do some research on DIPS and you'll know what I'm saying. There's an INCREDIBLE amount of luck in baseball... especially for pitchers.

AnotherAlias · 05-11-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Uh, no... they're two completely unrelated things. Do some research on DIPS and you'll know what I'm saying. There's an INCREDIBLE amount of luck in baseball... especially for pitchers.

So, you believe in luck, but not "team chemistry?"

rudel.dietrich · 05-11-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ

Baseball Ref now has the game logs of all of Zambrano's starts. (Pretty cool, huh?) In 05, he made 33 starts and threw over 100 pitches in 26 of them. That sounds like a lot to me.

Clemens is a genetic freak

And back in the day pitchers from an early age hurled alot of pitches and either broke down or their arms got stronger.
Now days pitchers are coddled from day 1 and when asked to go beyond 100 pitches their arms just dont have the muscle and muscle flexibility to go beyond that very often.
But if they did it often enough they would fall into one of the two camps from back in the early days of baseball.
But no one does and the culture of the game has changed.

I wonder if you could put together a convincing argument that in the rush to save pitchers arms, the pendulam has swung too far the other way and todays low pitch counts actualy hurt pitchers since sufficient arm strength is never built up.
Now THAT is a study I would like to see.

But it would be a hard study since you would have to remove the static of todays modern medicine from clouding the study.

Luis_Rivera · 05-12-2007, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

So, you believe in luck, but not "team chemistry?"

I think it's there, but it doesn't really affect how good a team does. There's no reasonable basis for it.

AnotherAlias · 05-14-2007, 08:23 AM

Lilly pitched well. Their starters (minus Zambrano) have been doing quite well.

I wonder if the reason they didn't throw the bank at Carlos was because they knew he would have a poor season. Maybe management knows something???

Or, is Zambrano just having "bad luck?"

Luis_Rivera · 05-14-2007, 09:29 AM

Start at post #83 and continue reading.

AnotherAlias · 05-14-2007, 08:37 PM

Well they're spanking Glavine tonight!!!

MuertoDesagradecido · 05-14-2007, 11:07 PM

Now that's a walk off.

mauboy · 05-18-2007, 03:12 AM

Cubs win! Cubs win!

if it were an 8 inning game.

Greg Layton · 05-18-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy

Cubs win! Cubs win!

if it were an 8 inning game.

I don't know about you, but I'm hung over this morning.

AnotherAlias · 05-21-2007, 08:43 AM

Two out of three from the South Siders is okay. I'll take it!

eriqjaffe · 05-21-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

Two out of three from the South Siders is okay. I'll take it!

Have to give credit where credit is due, the Cubs (on the whole) looked a whole lot better than the Sox did - especially when the bullpens came into play. The Cubs scored 12 runs in the bottom of the 8th innings of those games, which is a good sign for you guys. For the Sox...not so much, really.

mauboy · 05-27-2007, 10:20 AM

Cubs could be on a 3 game winstreak.. but as we know, scoring 7 runs in the 7th inning is never a good thing.

I won't be updating this thread until the Cubs are back over .500, which will be next week. Yup. See you all in a week.

eriqjaffe · 06-01-2007, 05:31 PM

Wow - for all the talk recently of Buehrle and Pierzynski having "differences"...

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/art...=.jsp&c_id=chc

Zambrano & Barrett just went at it in the dugout. Now that's chemistry!

Jonzard · 06-01-2007, 05:32 PM

Barrett sure gets punched a lot

eriqjaffe · 06-01-2007, 05:36 PM

The confluence of headlines is sublimely ironic!

ihatenames · 06-01-2007, 05:38 PM

One or both of these guys will be gone come july 31st..

eriqjaffe · 06-01-2007, 05:43 PM

Neither one of them are helping their trade value lately, too.

eriqjaffe · 06-01-2007, 05:46 PM

dola,

That was fast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uLUlyWSi8

eriqjaffe · 06-01-2007, 06:46 PM

trola,

Piniella confirmed during the post-game press conference that they fought again in the clubhouse. Good times!

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Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	Barrett sure gets punched a lot __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

06-01-2007, 05:36 PM	#116
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,723	The confluence of headlines is sublimely ironic! __________________

06-01-2007, 05:38 PM	#117
ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,534	One or both of these guys will be gone come july 31st.. __________________ New Album coming soon!

06-01-2007, 05:43 PM	#118
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,723	Neither one of them are helping their trade value lately, too. __________________

05-14-2007, 08:23 AM	#105
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	Lilly pitched well. Their starters (minus Zambrano) have been doing quite well. I wonder if the reason they didn't throw the bank at Carlos was because they knew he would have a poor season. Maybe management knows something??? Or, is Zambrano just having "bad luck?"

05-14-2007, 09:29 AM	#106
Luis_Rivera Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,177	Start at post #83 and continue reading.

05-14-2007, 08:37 PM	#107
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	Well they're spanking Glavine tonight!!!

05-14-2007, 11:07 PM	#108
MuertoDesagradecido Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Saint Francisco Posts: 436 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Now that's a walk off.

05-18-2007, 03:12 AM	#109
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	Cubs win! Cubs win! if it were an 8 inning game.

05-21-2007, 08:43 AM	#111
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	Two out of three from the South Siders is okay. I'll take it!

05-27-2007, 10:20 AM	#113
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	Cubs could be on a 3 game winstreak.. but as we know, scoring 7 runs in the 7th inning is never a good thing. I won't be updating this thread until the Cubs are back over .500, which will be next week. Yup. See you all in a week.

06-01-2007, 05:46 PM	#119
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,723	dola, That was fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uLUlyWSi8 __________________

06-01-2007, 06:46 PM	#120
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,723	trola, Piniella confirmed during the post-game press conference that they fought again in the clubhouse. Good times! __________________