Utba

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

I disagree to me it's a bigger accomplishment to win the tournament by going though a bunch of Prime fighters then a fighter winning it because he was lucky to face pre-prime fighters.

But my question is what does it have to do with the UTBA at that point .. if they don't fight at the level they are at you might as well just pick names out of a hat. You are basing the fighters you pick for the tourney on how they do in the season, so they should fight at the same level they are during the season.

Why not just run the EOY tourney with them all at Prime if you are going to do that?

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by mh2365

But my question is what does it have to do with the UTBA at that point .. if they don't fight at the level they are at you might as well just pick names out of a hat. You are basing the fighters you pick for the tourney on how they do in the season, so they should fight at the same level they are during the season.

Why not just run the EOY tourney with them all at Prime if you are going to do that?

EOY tourney = something that actually matters and has an effect on the UTBA.

PfP tourney = a little side tournament that doesn't matter in the least and was only really created because SAL wanted to see if Mickey could beat up people outside of MW.

The PfP is just for fun and bragging rights that gives us something to follow in the break between the end of the season and the playoffs.

[Romultiltus]

Listed below are all Gold Conference fighters finishing Season 4 w/ > .500 record.

Please send Romdawg88 (Romy) 2 selections for the Gold Conference All-Star Team.

Heavyweight:

Elmer Ray 18-2-0 (13)
Ike Ibeabuchi 18-2-0 (11)
Tommy Farr 17-2-1 (2)
Tony Tucker 17-3-0 (14)
Earnie Shavers 14-6-0 (12)
Jerry Quarry 13-7-0 (10)
Donovan Ruddock 12-7-1 (11)
Young Stribling 12-8-0 (4)
Ingemar Johansson 11-9-0 (10)
Eddie Machen 11-9-0 (7)
Max Baer 10-9-1 (10)

Light Heavyweight:

Bob Foster 19-1-0 (19)
Archie Moore 18-2-0 (18)
Dwight Qawi 17-3-0 (10)
Eddie Cotton 16-4-0 (10)
Jimmy Adamick 15-5-0 (12)
Battling Siki 14-6-0 (6)
Glencoffe Johnson 11-7-2 (6) 1DQ
George Gardner 13-6-1 (8)
Freddie Mills 11-8-1 (5)
Fabrice Tiozzo 11-9-0 (6) 1DQ

Middleweight:

Charles Kid McCoy 19-0-1 (9)
Mickey Walker 19-1-0 (18)
Paul Pender 17-2-1 (3)
Dick Tiger 16-3-1 (5)
Anton Raadik 15-4-1 (13)
Randy Turpin 14-3-3 (8)
Ken Overlin 14-4-2 (4)
Bennie Briscoe 13-5-2 (13)
Eduardo Lausse 12-8-0 (10)
Jock McAvoy 12-8-0 (7)
Gerald McClellan 11-7-2 (11)
Joey Giardello 10-7-3 (2) 1DQ
Michael Nunn 7-5-2 (2)
Walter Cartier 6-4-0 (4)

Welterweight:

Lloyd Honeyghan 17-2-1 (10)
Cocoa Kid 16-2-2 (4)
Zab Judah 16-3-1 (7)
Mark Breland 15-3-2 (10)
Pipino Cuevas 15-4-1 (13)
Donald Curry 12-8-0 (7)
Willie Davis 12-8-0 (6)
Milton McCrory 12-8-0 (6)
John H Stracey 9-8-3 (8)
Johnny Greco 9-5-0 (5) 2DQ
Carlos Baldomir 8-6-6 (4)

Lightweight:

Beau Jack 19-1-0 (13) 1DQ
Dave Charnley 17-3-0 (7)
Sergei Artemiev 16-2-2 (12)
Freddie Welsh 16-2-2 (4)
Diego Corrales 16-4-0 (12)
Edwin Rosario 15-5-0 (15)
Rocky Kansas 15-5-0 (5)
Art Aragon 12-6-2 (4)
Ernesto Espana 11-8-1 (9)
Jim Watt 11-8-1 (8)
Sean O'Grady 11-9-0 (10)
Fabian Tejeda 11-9-0 (6)
Andy Ganigan 11-9-0 (6)
Orzubek Nazarov 7-4-1 (7)

Featherweight:

Jeff Fenech 18-2-0 (14)
Ruben Olivares 16-4-0 (13)
Battling Battalino 15-3-2 (4)
Barry McGuigan 15-5-0 (12) 1DQ
Bernard Taylor 14-6-0 (6)
Patrick Ford 12-6-2 (5)
Enrique Sanchez 12-8-0 (10)
Celestino Caballero 12-8-0 (6)
Juan Manuel Marquez 11-9-0 (6)
Terry Spinks 11-9-0 (5)

Bantamweight:

Jose Becerra 16-4-0 (9)
Jimmy Carruthers 15-4-1 (11)
Jose Medel 15-4-1 (14)
Gilberto Roman 15-4-1 (7)
Akeem Anifowoshe 15-5-0 (13)
Veeraphol Sahaprom 15-5-0 (9)
Lupe Pintor 14-6-0 (8)
Johnny Caldwell 12-7-1 (7) 1DQ
Vic Toweel 12-8-0 (8)
Pete Frissina 10-9-1 (8)

Flyweight:

Vic Darchinyan 19-1-0 (18)
Candido Tellez 16-3-1 (13)
Hilario Zapata 16-4-0 (6)
Santos Laciar 15-4-1 (5)
Hussein Hussein 13-5-2 (8)
Sot Chitalada 13-6-1 (4) 1DQ
Benny Lynch 13-7-0 (9) 2DQ
Hugo Soto 12-8-0 (11)
Guty Espadas 11-8-1 (8)
Octavio Gomez 11-8-1 (6)
Yuri Arbachakov 11-9-0 (10)
Jiro Takada 10-9-1 (3)

[Romultiltus]

Listed below are all Silver Conference fighters finishing Season 4 w/ > .500 record.

Please send Romdawg88 (Romy) 2 selections for the Silver Conference All-Star Team.

Heavyweight:

Max Schmeling 19-1-0 (12)
Ken Norton 18-2-0 (10)
Peter Jackson 17-3-0 (4)
Cleveland Williams 15-5-0 (14)
George Chuvalo 14-6-0 (14)
Bruce Woodcock 12-8-0 (12)
Lennox Lewis 12-8-0 (9)
Wladimir Klitschko 12-8-0 (8)
Chris Byrd 12-8-0 (2)
Herbie Hide 11-9-0 (10)
Lamon Brewster 11-9-0 (9)
Gerry Cooney 11-9-0 (9)
Paolino Uzcudan 10-9-1 (8)

Light Heavyweight:

Matthew Saad Muhammad 18-2-0 (15)
Mate Parlov 17-3-0 (8)
Jeff Harding 16-4-0 (12)
John Conteh 16-4-0 (4)
Paul Berlenbach 14-6-0 (13)
Darius Michalczewski 14-6-0 (11)
Victor Galindez 14-6-0 (9)
Prince Charles Williams 14-6-0 (3)
Marvin Johnson 13-6-1 (11)
Georges Carpentier 13-7-0 (11)
Leo Lomski 11-9-0 (8)
Antonio Tarver 11-9-0 (4)

Middleweight:

Carlos Monzon 20-0-0 (15)
Tiger Flowers 19-0-1 (8)
Tony Zale 17-1-2 (15)
John Mugabi 17-3-0 (16)
Carmen Basilio 16-3-1 (12)
Jermain Taylor 16-3-1 (10)
Carl "Bobo" Olson 13-7-0 (9)
Charley Fusari 11-8-1 (6)
Sam Soliman 11-9-0 (3)
George Benton 10-6-4 (3)

Welterweight:

Randy Shields 18-2-0 (4_
Marlon Starling 16-3-1 (7)
Curtis Cokes 16-3-1 (7)
Johnny Saxton 15-4-1 (2)
Carlos Quintana 15-5-0 (13)
Andrew Lewis 14-5-1 (12)
Oscar De La Hoya 14-6-0 (4)
Jimmy Gardner 13-7-0 (2)
Billy Graham 11-3-6 (1)
Oba Carr 10-8-2 (1)
Tony DeMarco 10-9-1 (7)

Lightweight:

Alexis Arguello 18-2-0 (12)
Carlos Ortiz 18-2-0 (4)
Howard Davis Jr 16-4-0 (2)
Billy Petrolle 15-5-0 (10)
Greg Haugen 14-6-0 (6)
Rodolfo Gonzalez 13-7-0 (11)
Jesse James Leija 11-9-0 (2)
Cornelius Boza-Edwards 10-7-3 (4)
Sid Terris 10-8-2 (11) 1DQ
Mando Ramos 10-9-1 (6)
Paddy DeMarco 9-8-3 (0)

Featherweight:

Young Griffo 18-1-1 (4)
Kid Chocolate 17-2-1 (10)
Sugar Ramos 15-3-2 (10)
Kevin Kelley 15-5-0 (8)
Ricardo Moreno 14-5-1 (14)
Terry McGovern 14-5-1 (14)
Howard Winstone 14-5-1 (4)
In-Jin Chi 14-6-0 (12)
Jaime Garza 12-7-1 (5)
Benny Bass 12-7-1 (2) 1DQ
Diego Morales 11-8-1 (5)
Harry Jeffra 10-9-1 (3)

Bantamweight:

Jeff Chandler 18-0-2 (3)
Alfonso Zamora 17-2-1 (16)
Paul Ferreri 14-5-1 (6)
Memphis Pal Moore 14-5-1 (3)
Oscar Muniz 13-6-1 (10)
Thomas Palmer 13-6-1 (4)
Jesus Pimentel 13-7-0 (13)
Jhonny Gonzales 13-7-0 (8)
Benny Goldberg 12-4-4 (3) 1DQ
Luis Alberto Perez 12-6-2 (4)
Eddie Cook 11-9-0 (8)

Flyweight:

Jorge Arce 18-1-1 (11)
Johnny Buff 14-5-1 (3)
Irene Pacheco 14-6-0 (9)
Fritz Chervet 13-5-2 (8)
Pascual Perez 13-5-1 (8)
Pitchit Siriwat 13-6-1 (5) 1DQ
Little "Speedy" Dado 13-6-1 (1)
Roberto Vasquez 12-8-0 (6)
Gilberto Gonzalez 11-8-1 (4)
Fermin Gomez 10-8-2 (10)
Freddie Castillo 9-8-3 (4)
Jackie Paterson 7-3-0 (3)

[SAL]

May 1, 2007 - Governor's Foot Guard Hall, Hartford, CT

UTBA Playoffs - Silver Conference
First Round

Undisputed Champions @ Hebron Haymakers

Bout Results:
(Undisputed Champions listed first)
All bouts scheduled for 15

FLY- Jackie Paterson L KO 11 Pitchit Siriwat

FLY- Bert Cano L KO 12 Johnny McCluskey

BW- Jesus Pimentel L KO 8 Alfonso Zamora

BW- Eddie Cook W TKO 6 Rodolfo Martinez

FW- Frankie Crawford L UD 12 Young Griffo

FW- Sugar Ramos W TKO 1 Jesus Meneses (Jesus Meneses advances to PRIME)

LW- Mando Ramos W KO 10 Claude Noel

LW- Billy Petrolle W TKO 11 Rodolfo Gonzalez

WW- Joey Limas L KO 6 Andrew Lewis

WW- Oba Carr Draw 15 Marlon Starling

MW- Carmen Basilio W TKO 6 Ilyas Ahmed

MW- Harry Scott L TKO 8 John Mugabi

LHW- Darius Michalczewski W TKO 4 Miguel Angel Cuello (Cuello advances to PRIME)

LHW- Bob Murphy L TKO 15 John Conteh

HW- George Chuvalo L UD 15 (CH)Max Schmeling
Championship Bout

HW- David Tua L TKO 11 Paolino Uzcudun

===================================

Halftime Score:
Undisputed Champions 6-9-1 (6) = 19
Hebron Haymakers 9-6-1 (7) = 26
===================================

FLY- Jackie Paterson W TKO 7 Johnny McCluskey

FLY- Bert Cano L KO 9 Pitchit Siriwat

BW- Eddie Cook L KO 3 Alfonso Zamora

BW- Jesus Pimentel W TKO 4 Rodolfo Martinez

FW- Sugar Ramos L UD 15 Young Griffo

FW- Frankie Crawford W UD 15 Jesus Meneses

LW- Billy Petrolle W KO 4 Claude Noel

LW- Mando Ramos L TKO 5 Rodolfo Gonzalez

WW- Joey Limas L KO 14 Marlon Starling

WW- Oba Carr W TKO 1 Andrew Lewis

MW- Harry Scott L TKO 3 Ilyas Ahmed

MW- Carmen Basilio W DQ 9 John Mugabi

LHW- Darius Michalczewski L TKO 6 John Conteh

LHW- Bob Murphy W KO 6 Miguel Angel Cuello

HW- David Tua L TKO 12 (CH)Max Schmeling
Championship Bout

HW- George Chuvalo W KO 10 Paolino Uzcudun

===================================
Final Score:
Undisputed Champions 14-17-1 (12) = 41
Hebron Haymakers 17-14-1 (14)(DQ-1) = 48
===================================

FIREWORKS!!!!!!!! Only six bouts managed to go the distance.

Congratulations Christopher on advancing your Haymakers into the
Silver Conference Championship.

Nice season jbergey. Sorry you had to be on the short end........but I
guess it had to be somebody.

[SAL]

May 1, 2007 - Fenway Park, Boston, MA

UTBA Playoffs - Silver Conference
First Round

Iceteaboxing @ Juggernaut

Bout Results:
(Iceteaboxing listed first)
All bouts scheduled for 15

FLY- Miguel Angel Granados L KO 14 Irene Pacheco

FLY- Jackie Brown L UD 15 Roberto Vasquez

BW- Harry Forbes W TechUD 13 Miguel Martinez

BW- Robert Cohen W TKO 11 Tommy Kelly

FW- Ricardo Moreno W TKO 6 Wilfredo Gomez

FW- Kid Chocolate L KO 6 Diego Morales (Kid Chocolate advances to PRIME)

LW- Jimmy Britt L DQ 15 Greg Haugen

LW- Sid Terris W TKO 10 Howard Davis Jr

WW- Johnny Saxton L TKO 11 Young Jack Thompson

WW- Curtis Cokes W KO 12 Randy Shields

MW- Eugene Hart W TKO 4 Rito Ruvalcaba

MW- Tiger Flowers W TKO 14 Tony Zale

LHW- Prince Charles Williams W UD 15 Paul Berlenbach

LHW- Mate Parlov W TKO 6 Larry Marks

HW- Peter Jackson W UD 15 Gerry Cooney

HW- Herbie Hide L KO 11 Ken Norton

===================================

Halftime Score:
Iceteaboxing 10-6-0 (7)(DQ-1) = 26
Juggernaut 6-10-0 (4) = 16
===================================

FLY- Miguel Angel Granados L KO 9 Roberto Vasquez

FLY- Jackie Brown L TKO 8 Irene Pacheco

BW- Robert Cohen W UD 15 Miguel Martinez

BW- Harry Forbes W KO 10 Tommy Kelly

FW- Ricardo Moreno L KO 9 Diego Morales

FW- Kid Chocolate W UD 15 Wilfredo Gomez

LW- Sid Terris W UD 15 Greg Haugen

LW- Jimmy Britt W SD 15 Howard Davis Jr

WW- Curtis Cokes W SD 15 Young Jack Thompson

WW- Johnny Saxton L MD 15 Randy Shields

MW- Tiger Flowers L DQ 11 Rito Ruvalcaba

MW- Eugene Hart L KO 4 Tony Zale

LHW- Mate Parlov L SD 15 Paul Berlenbach

LHW- Prince Charles Williams W KO 7 Larry Marks

HW- Herbie Hide L KO 9 Gerry Cooney

HW- Peter Jackson W TKO 8 Ken Norton

===================================
Final Score:
Iceteaboxing 18-14-0 (10)(DQ-2) = 44
Juggernaut 14-18-0 (9) = 37
===================================

Though luck Claybor but congrats on making an apperance in the playoffs. Nice season.

Congrats to Iceteaboxing as they advance to the Silver Conference Champioship!

Silver Conference Champioship match is set:

Iceteaboxing @ Hebron Haymakers - Governor's Foot Guard Hall, Hartford, CT

[kenyan_cheena]

Congrats to Hebron and especially congrats to Icetea. Three consecutive conference championship appearances is a great achievement.

[mh2365]

Too bad the Mexivilles had Icetea's # too.

[SAL]

I will update the team rosters after the individual tournaments are complete.

I added links to the bout results for the team playoffs after week 10 in the schedule. When the playoffs are over and before we start season 5, I'll move the entire season 4 schedule over to the UTBA almanac thread. That way if for any reason someone wants to take a look back, it should be somewhat easy to find. Wish I'd thought of doing this back in season one. As the league grows older and these posts get scattered throughout the threads, I'll post some links to each season schedule (and whatever else someone might want) on the first page of the almanac thread. Then you will only have to look in one place to find what you are looking for.......hopefully.

[Romdawg88]

Congrats to the Haymakers and Icetea for winning their games. So can the Haymakers make it three in a row against Icetea. It'll be interesting to see.

[jbergey22]

Nice job Chris, and also again to Ice Tea...

The endless hours figuring out trade proposals have paid off

[vistaman44]

... Chris and Mark. Should be a great conference final!

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by SAL

Gotta agree!

Me three. PfP I can see your point. But the all-star game should showcase guys in their current stages. Also, since belts are potentially at stake in these contests, I think it would be unfair to do it any other way.

[bigMatt]

Congrats to the Haymakers and Iceteaboxing!

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Nice job Chris, and also again to Ice Tea...

The endless hours figuring out trade proposals have paid off

The difference between this match and our first must be the Tua factor.

David Tua is the kiss of death in this league.

MW- Harry Scott L TKO 3 Ilyas Ahmed

[Claybor]

Too bad the Mexivilles had Icetea's # too.

Sorry, we let down the south division.

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Congrats to the Haymakers and Icetea for winning their games. So can the Haymakers make it three in a row against Icetea. It'll be interesting to see.

* Hope I can beat him this time!

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by Claybor

Sorry, we let down the south division.

Didn't mean it that way, we just matched up well against Icetea. I'm making a few changes to my team, hopefully it doesn't hurt me too much this season.

[Claybor]

Juggernaut was on a pretty good roll there at the end of the season but I knew Iceteaboxing was going to be a tough match up for me. I had hoped for better, mostly to prove that I belonged there. :] I think you will see pretty much the same Juggernaut team next year as this with the possible exception of a few changes of the lower rated fighters.

[Ian Lord]

Well done to Hebron and Icetea.