4th round steal - Page 3

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:01 PM

The Steelers got a pretty solid blocking tight end in Matt Spaeth back in round 3.

http://minnesota.rivals.com/cviewpla...layer=3628#bio

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

I hope you are right and individually Moss succeeds. But maybe this move speaks to the desperation the Pats are facing. And why would they agree to pay Moss a lot more than Branch wanted?? A move that likely cost them a Super Bowl trip.

Are you serious? Deion Branch is nowhere near Moss at even 75%.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/MossRa00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/BranDe00.htm

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:06 PM

See especially this part

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Deion Branch never finished in the top 10 in any major category.

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[Randy Moss'] Seasons among the league's top 10
Receptions: 2002-3, 2003-2
Receiving yards: 1998-3, 1999-3, 2000-5, 2001-9, 2002-2, 2003-2
Receiving TDs: 1998-1, 1999-6t, 2000-1, 2001-4, 2003-1, 2004-4t
Rush/Receive TDs: 1998-2t, 2000-5t, 2001-10t, 2003-3t, 2004-10t

bababui · 04-29-2007, 03:18 PM

Clearly the braintrust in the NFL think Branch is a much better player..traded for a 1st round pick vs a 4th. Unlike prima donna Randy Moss, Branch is a complete WR being able to block on running plays. He is also a team player happy to trade statistics for Super Bowls.

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Clearly the braintrust in the NFL think Branch is a much better player..traded for a 1st round pick vs a 4th. Unlike prima donna Randy Moss, Branch is a complete WR being able to block on running plays. He is also a team player happy to trade statistics for Super Bowls.

Think that might have something to do with the difference in ages?

And where is his Super Bowl in Seattle? This post reads like Joe Morgan.

bababui · 04-29-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

Think that might have something to do with the difference in ages?

Thats part of it...but Branch is a complete WR and Moss isnt. Thats the other part of it.

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Thats part of it...but Branch is a complete WR and Moss isnt. Thats the other part of it.

He's more well rounded, I'll give you that. Branch is NOT a "complete" WR.

bababui · 04-29-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

Think that might have something to do with the difference in ages?

And where is his Super Bowl in Seattle? This post reads like Joe Morgan.

I believe the Seahawks made the playoffs last year and had a few key injuries. They didnt quit when their QB was injured like Mossie would have.

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

I believe the Seahawks made the playoffs last year and had a few key injuries. They didnt quit when their QB was injured like Mossie would have.

Did you SEE who was throwing to him in Oakland?

The correct answer is no one. It's hard to throw when you get planted face first into the turf every other play.

Jonzard · 04-29-2007, 03:34 PM

Randy Moss at his worst is twice the player Branch will ever be.

magnet · 04-29-2007, 03:34 PM

I do think we all agree on one thing; this trade is good for both sides.

bababui · 04-29-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

I do think we all agree on one thing; this trade is good for both sides.

Absolutely.

bababui · 04-29-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonzard

Randy Moss at his worst is twice the player Branch will ever be.

Only in a fantasy league. And only for the 15-20 plays a game directed at him. For the reast of the game he is amongst the worst WR's in football.

AD31 · 04-29-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

Think that might have something to do with the difference in ages?

And where is his Super Bowl in Seattle? This post reads like Joe Morgan.

Cheap shot

. Branch had only a partial year in Seattle, no training camp and the team as a whole was decimated by injury. Branch adjusted well considering the situation and not having a training camp with the team.

AD31 · 04-29-2007, 04:03 PM

And as a Hawks fan, if you offered me Moss for Branch straight up I would turn it down.

Jordan · 04-29-2007, 04:14 PM

Chicago Bears picking Garrett Wolfe 3rd round?

This reeks of Leon Joe all over again.

darkhorse · 04-29-2007, 04:21 PM

After all the moves the Patriots have made this offseason, they should just ship the Super Bowl trophy to New England and cancel next season. Save a lot of trouble.

mh2365 · 04-29-2007, 04:30 PM

Hmm the Topic was about Michael Bush .... Bush should be ready to go by camp from the foot injury (or at least that's what the L'ville docs have been saying) .... If he returns to form then the Raiders got a top 10 player in the 4th round.

He catches the ball extremely well, can throw the ball (if they want to use it) and is a bruiser of a runner.

USN Squid · 04-29-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

But maybe this move speaks to the desperation the Pats are facing.

Are you on drugs? How exactly is 3 championships in this decade + an AFC championship visit last year (where I could have lined up at WR) desperation time?

Oh, and I have two words for your Randy Moss attitude concerns:

COREY DILLON.

AD31 · 04-29-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonzard

Randy Moss at his worst is twice the player Branch will ever be.

That has been Randy the last few yars, and he is not twice the player.

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Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	Randy Moss at his worst is twice the player Branch will ever be. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

04-29-2007, 04:03 PM	#55
AD31 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 302	And as a Hawks fan, if you offered me Moss for Branch straight up I would turn it down. Last edited by AD31; 04-29-2007 at 04:04 PM.

04-29-2007, 03:01 PM	#41
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	The Steelers got a pretty solid blocking tight end in Matt Spaeth back in round 3. http://minnesota.rivals.com/cviewpla...layer=3628#bio

04-29-2007, 03:18 PM	#44
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Clearly the braintrust in the NFL think Branch is a much better player..traded for a 1st round pick vs a 4th. Unlike prima donna Randy Moss, Branch is a complete WR being able to block on running plays. He is also a team player happy to trade statistics for Super Bowls.

04-29-2007, 04:14 PM	#56
Jordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 2,023	Chicago Bears picking Garrett Wolfe 3rd round? This reeks of Leon Joe all over again.

04-29-2007, 04:21 PM	#57
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	After all the moves the Patriots have made this offseason, they should just ship the Super Bowl trophy to New England and cancel next season. Save a lot of trouble.

04-29-2007, 04:30 PM	#58
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Hmm the Topic was about Michael Bush .... Bush should be ready to go by camp from the foot injury (or at least that's what the L'ville docs have been saying) .... If he returns to form then the Raiders got a top 10 player in the 4th round. He catches the ball extremely well, can throw the ball (if they want to use it) and is a bruiser of a runner.