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Old 01-27-2007, 01:57 PM   #341
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lol, He's been hanging around beating stiffs for a while now. I just haven't given him a lot of thought.

This month, I saw that he was ranked 12 or 13. Oats Zaidy (another stiff, but one I like) was ranked 11. So I thought "Hey, here's a chance to get Oats in the top ten". I figured it would be his only shot so I matched them up. Danza won

He won't be there for long, the MW with under 20 fights (not ranked yet) are deep. 50 to 75 deep in fact. He needs to ponder a new career like acting or something.
He might not last long but still to make it into the Top 10 is a heck of an achievement even if he did it by beating up a bunch of stiffs. You should give him a title shot I'm sure Sands won't mind having an easier defense before having to deal with Kalambay and Makembi.
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Old 01-27-2007, 02:43 PM   #342
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He might not last long but still to make it into the Top 10 is a heck of an achievement even if he did it by beating up a bunch of stiffs. You should give him a title shot I'm sure Sands won't mind having an easier defense before having to deal with Kalambay and Makembi.
A world title fight for Daza eh? I don't know - we'll see.

There really are some hugly talented fighters - doxens of them - that will be breaking into the world rankings over the next 18 to 24 months. What I am really hoping for is to have one of Dave's brothers move into the top slot and become a mandatory for Dave. I am thinking that I might have him refuse, take a different opponent and get stripped. Then I'd have some fun controversy to play with.

Unfortunately, I don't think that there is any chance for Alfie or Ritchie to climb that high. The guys ahead of them are too good and they will easily get pushed out of the top 30 within a year or two by new comers.

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Australian First Family of the Ring: Meet the Sands Boys
In September of 1901, middleweight Dave Sands claimed the Asian and Pacific Boxing Council title with a second round KO over Arihito Naito. Earlier that month, brother Alfie took the South Sea middleweight prize belt and Russell, another of the Sands clan, claimed the APBC Featherweight title. In the two and a half years since, the six Sands brothers have claimed ten titles and have amassed a family career record of 174-52-9.
The brothers were born in Burnt Ridge, Australia to the Ritchie family but all six took the name of a kind train guard who helped some of the older brothers ride to fight locations without paying a fare. From humble beginnings, the Sands boys have proudly carried the Aboriginal and Australian banners around the globe with their excellence in the ring. Here we present a brief look at the exploits of each of the six brothers to-date:
Dave Sands, MW 36-3-0 (33)
Titles held:
Asian and Pacific Boxing Federation - September, 1901 to June, 1903 - 6 defenses (vacated)
Australian National Boxing Federation - February, 1902 to June, 1903 - 2 defenses (vacated)
Royal Explorers Club World Title - June, 1903 to present - 2 defenses
Biggest victory: 14th round TKO over Mpush Makembi for the world title
Toughest defeats: Three split decision losses to Makembi for the world title
Alfie Sands, MW 36-5-1 (25)
Titles held:
South Seas Prize Belt - September, 1901 to present - 4 defenses
Australian National Boxing Federation - October, 1903 to present - no defenses
Asian and Pacific Boxing Council - November, 1903 to present - no defenses
Biggest victory: Ninth round TKO over Lester Ellis for ANBF title
Toughest defeats: Ten round decisions to Ceferio Garcia and Hein Domgorgen
Ritchie Sands, MW 30-3-1 (23)
Titles held:
None
Biggest victory: Ninth round KO of Herb Goddard and a ten round draw with Tom Bogs
Toughest defeat: Twelve round decision to Jim Hall for the Australian title after Dave vacated
George Sands, WW 26-16-3 (21)
Titles held:
Asian and Pacific Boxing Council - November, 1901 to July, 1902 and January, 1903 to present - 3 defenses
South Seas Prize Belt - January, 1903 to present - no defenses
Biggest victory: Two round KO over Jack McNamee to retain his APBC belt
Toughest defeat: Eighth round TKO to Jan Bergman in a bid for the world title
Clem Sands, WW 26-11-2 (13)
Titles held:
Victorian State Champion - July, 1903 to present - no defenses
Biggest victory: Ten round decision over George Barnes for the VS title
Toughest defeat: Numerous losses to poor competition
Russell Sands, FW 20-14-2 (5)
Titles held:
Asian and Pacific Boxing Council - September, 1901 to November, 1903 - 3 defenses
Biggest victory: Decision over Cesar Amazan
Toughest defeat: Seventh round TKO to Ki-Young Chung to lose his APBC belt
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Dave Sands is a ducking coward who is running from the true number 1 fighter in the division, Tony Danza. He knows he would be lucky to last 30 seconds with Tony.

It's going to be hard for the other boxing families to equal the success of the Sands family. They have done some great things. I don't know how Mpush was able to take those three SDs against Sands the was one lucky cat. Also, it would be interesting if either Alfie or Richtie can get into the top spot.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:13 PM   #345
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GLASGOW PICAYUNE
Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue IV | 01 April, 1904
March Round-Up


International Test Cricket News
Kiwis Take Two In Australia

Sydney, Australia: The New Zealand Squad pulled even atop the word standing with Sri Lanka by claiming two tests in Australia. Both matches were taken by five wickets in dominating fashion. Dempster and Crowe each turned in a century in Melbourne with Dempster repeating the trick in Sydney. The story of the month was New Zealand's crack bowler Bond who turned in 4-57 and 6-52 performances in the Melbourne test. For the second month in a row, Aussie captain Bradman saw limited action. He is believed to be suffering from a viral infection of undisclosed nature.
Complete Cricket Standings and Results
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New Issue!

GLASGOW PICAYUNE
Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue IV | 01 April, 1904

March International Boxing Round-Up


World Title Fight Results
Stevenson Fells South African Giant
Gilroy Defeats Fourie
Sands Sends SABC Champ Back Home
Sobral Battles Courts, REC, Loses Belt
Saiz Downs Old Foe Once More
Lizarraga Drops Willis Late
Caballero Escapes Brawl With Blanco
Caraballo Takes Boring, Bloody Mess of a Fight
Bolano Brings a Bloody End To Martinez
Chervet Keeps Title on DQ
Upset in the Orient
Barcenas Stuns Boxing World



Explorers Cup Horse Racings News
Spend A Buck and Count Fleet Take the Honors in Sounth Africa


International Test Cricket News
Kiwis Take Two In Australia
Complete Cricket Standings and Results

- Plus other International Prize Fighting Results

Read it all here.

Heavyweight Rankings as of 01 April, 1904:

World Rankings

Major Rankings:

African and Arabian Boxing Union
Asian and Pacific Boxing Council
European Boxing Federation
North American Boxing Federation
South American Boxing Council

Minor Rankings:

All-African
Arabian Boxing Federation
Argentina
Asian Federation
Brazil
British Empire
California
Eastern European
Great Northwestern (US)
Havana Jockey Club
Isthmus Boxing Federation
Maritime
Metropolitan Athletic Club
Midwest (US)
Norse Boxing Federation
Prussian
South Seas
Southland (US)
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Good to see that after all the trouble and crap Gilroy went though with Yawe Davis and the European title that he manage to grab himself a World title. Also, what kept Sobral from fighting for two whole years?
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:35 PM   #348
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Also, what kept Sobral from fighting for two whole years?
My world champions come up for possible defenses 4 times each year. They have a 50% chance of defending each time. Generally, the champs will get 2 or more defenses in a year. Occasionally, only one will occur.

Sobral was the only one who did not come up for a year or more. I was going to force a fight but then decided to wait and perhaps have a story line that he was in trouble or embattled for some reason. Remarkably, he cycled through 8 straight potential defense opportunities without being selected randomly (2 years). This time around, I just decided to force a fight and forget about the random bit. The blurb that I put in the last GP issue was just the best story line that my feeble writer's mind could conjure.
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GLASGOW PICAYUNE
Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue V | 01 May, 1904
April Round-Up

Gushiken In Tough Battle

Hokkaido, Japan: Asian Federation and Japanese Jr. Flyweight champion Yoko Gushiken stepped into deeper water to face veteran Asian and Pacific champ Hwan-Jin Kim (35-7-2). Gushiken stabbed Kim's sides often in the first and snapped his jab in the champion's face repeatedly as he claimed the first and second rounds with relative ease. Kim moved to the outside for the third. The crafty veteran worked the angles and picked off Gushiken's jabs as he regained control of the bout and placed the next three rounds on his side of the ledger. The sixth frame was rather even until a stinging jab from Gushiken opened a deep cut over Kim's right eye. Billy Mascott worked feverishly in the corner to get the blood under control but Kim was clearly in trouble. Kim took the seventh round despite covering his wound only to have it re-opened in the eighth. Referee Ian John Lewis halted the action briefly to have the doc take a look. The fight went on but Kim was gushing blood by round's end. Mascott again worked some magic between rounds but it simply wasn't enough. Gushiken ripped open the cut again in the ninth and began to score at will as Kim struggled to see through the blood. At 1:38 of the ninth with the fighters even on his card, referee Lewis stepped in and declared Gushiken the winner via technical knockout. The victory crowned Gushiken as the new APBC champ and improved his spotless record to 17(15)-0-0.


APBC Jr Flyweight Top Ten - 01 May, 1904

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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Yoko Gushiken (a) Japan 17 0 0 15 1. Muangchai Kittikasem Thailand 36 1 0 33 2. Mohammad Ali Qamar (b) India 31 6 3 16 3. Hwan-Jin Kim South Korea 35 7 2 15 4. Sung-Jun Kim (c) South Korea 27 10 2 3 5. Sor-Pol Vorasingh Thailand 36 10 0 18 6. Hideyuki Ohashi Japan 30 7 1 22 7. Kaaj Chartbandit Thailand 14 1 1 6 8. Shigeo Nakajima Japan 14 1 0 2 9. Masato Hatakeyama Japan 14 2 0 3 10. Hiroki Ioka (d) Japan 23 3 0 10
(a) - Asian Federation & Wajin Bokushingu Yuushou Champion
(b) - British Empire Champion
(c) - Korean National Champion
(d) - South Seas Champion
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GLASGOW PICAYUNE
Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue V | 01 May, 1904
April Round-Up

Gushiken In Tough Battle

Hokkaido, Japan: Asian Federation and Japanese Jr. Flyweight champion Yoko Gushiken stepped into deeper water to face veteran Asian and Pacific champ Hwan-Jin Kim (35-7-2). Gushiken stabbed Kim's sides often in the first and snapped his jab in the champion's face repeatedly as he claimed the first and second rounds with relative ease. Kim moved to the outside for the third. The crafty veteran worked the angles and picked off Gushiken's jabs as he regained control of the bout and placed the next three rounds on his side of the ledger. The sixth frame was rather even until a stinging jab from Gushiken opened a deep cut over Kim's right eye. Billy Mascott worked feverishly in the corner to get the blood under control but Kim was clearly in trouble. Kim took the seventh round despite covering his wound only to have it re-opened in the eighth. Referee Ian John Lewis halted the action briefly to have the doc take a look. The fight went on but Kim was gushing blood by round's end. Mascott again worked some magic between rounds but it simply wasn't enough. Gushiken ripped open the cut again in the ninth and began to score at will as Kim struggled to see through the blood. At 1:38 of the ninth with the fighters even on his card, referee Lewis stepped in and declared Gushiken the winner via technical knockout. The victory crowned Gushiken as the new APBC champ and improved his spotless record to 17(15)-0-0.


APBC Jr Flyweight Top Ten - 01 May, 1904

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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Yoko Gushiken (a) Japan 17 0 0 15 1. Muangchai Kittikasem Thailand 36 1 0 33 2. Mohammad Ali Qamar (b) India 31 6 3 16 3. Hwan-Jin Kim South Korea 35 7 2 15 4. Sung-Jun Kim (c) South Korea 27 10 2 3 5. Sor-Pol Vorasingh Thailand 36 10 0 18 6. Hideyuki Ohashi Japan 30 7 1 22 7. Kaaj Chartbandit Thailand 14 1 1 6 8. Shigeo Nakajima Japan 14 1 0 2 9. Masato Hatakeyama Japan 14 2 0 3 10. Hiroki Ioka (d) Japan 23 3 0 10
(a) - Asian Federation & Wajin Bokushingu Yuushou Champion
(b) - British Empire Champion
(c) - Korean National Champion
(d) - South Seas Champion

Good stuff! I've been waiting for an update.
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WOOOOOO, The Glasgow Picayune is back up and running. I was worried that the last round of fights made you quit it.
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WOOOOOO, The Glasgow Picayune is back up and running. I was worried that the last round of fights made you quit it.
I haven't had time to do this and the horse racing in months. I have run April of 1904 through the LW division (Tanveer Ahmed had his first manditory as AABU champ) and am glad to be back at it.

Thanks Tommy and Romy.
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This is one amazing Universe! I can not understand how you manage to keep track of eveything. It must cost you tons of time! All respect for this, I can never manage to handle a project like the Glasgow Picayune. Do you have 80 hours days over there?
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This is one amazing Universe! I can not understand how you manage to keep track of eveything. It must cost you tons of time! All respect for this, I can never manage to handle a project like the Glasgow Picayune. Do you have 80 hours days over there?
The key for me is to pick at it very s-l-o-w-l-y. After I built the base up to 1901, it has taken me two plus real life years to advance 3 1/4 years.
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Good fight.

Is a rematch on the cards?
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Glad to see you are back at updating the Glasgow Picayune. Chris does such an amazing job with his universe. I don't run a universe but i've incorporated some of his ideas into my own personal database. Have you decided who Gushiken will be facing next? IMO I think a rematch with Kim is in order.
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I don't generally allow rematches unless the vanquished can maintain a number one ranking (ala the Sands-Makembe epic). A more likely scenario would be for Gushiken to dispatch Kittikasem and Ali Qamar over the balance of 1904. With one other tune-up fight (defending his Asian Federation or Japanese belt) in there somewhere he will be ranked on the world level (20 fight minimum) by year's end. So, he may be world champion and have left these belts behind before Kim climbs back to number one in the APBC.

We'll see, thanks for looking!
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Gushiken/Kittikasem would be something to see and a hell of a step up for Gushiken. I look forward to happening. Man, I remember Ali Qamar getting some major hype at the beginning of the REC but it seems like he's fallen of the face of the earth lately. I don't remember hearing anything about him for awhile.

Edit: Just checked your rankings and I saw that Ali Qamar and Sugar Ray Mike, one of my early favorites, are both very highly ranked so how long do you think both they get title shots?
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Ali Quamar and Kittikasem are definitely stiffer tests and if Gushiken gets past them, a world title shot in early 1905 is not out of the question. Hopefully Kim will get another crack at regaining the APBC title.
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Edit: Just checked your rankings and I saw that Ali Qamar and Sugar Ray Mike, one of my early favorites, are both very highly ranked so how long do you think both they get title shots?
Two of my 'pets' that I have babied along in some respects.

Ali Qamar has had a nice career. He got his world title shot against Cob Castro early in 03. Lost a UD fifteen rounder but held up better than could be expected. He then lost his APBC belt to Kittikasem in August of 03. He and Hwan-Jin Kim fought for the APBC belt only five months later when Kittikasem vacated for his brief world title stint.

He should get a shot at Gushiken this year but will likely get crushed. Mike's best days may be in the past. he is the number one SW in the APBC and will be facing Oh-Kon Kim soon. Kim is undefeated but beatable. If Mike loses that one, it may be a long way back if at all for him.

On a side note, I am perplexed about the real life Ali Qamar. He was a huge hero in India (or Calcutta at least) when he took a Commonwealth Gold Medel (India's first in boxing, I believe) from an Englishman at the games in Manchester. Then, he went into the 04 Olympic trials with high hopes only to be de-railed by a Pakistani in an unbelievable upset. Word from a Sri Lankan paper was that he would turn pro; and then absolutely nothing. I have seen not a single word written about him anywhere (and I actualy do search every few months because it is such a mystery to me)since 2004.

Edit: I should note that I have a number of Indian friends which is why I took an interest in him. If not for them, I wouldn't know him from Adam.
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