2007 New York Yankees Thread

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Astros33Resurrected

Is there anyone coming up in the minors that is expected to be in this class? I've heard good things about a few guys like Brandon Wood, Josh Fields and a few others.

Alex Gordon is expected to be All-Star quality in his rookie season, but he's off to a spectacularly awful start for the Royals. 'Course, Willie Mays first month in the bigs was embarrassing.

[CMH]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Alex Gordon is expected to be All-Star quality in his rookie season, but he's off to a spectacularly awful start for the Royals. 'Course, Willie Mays first month in the bigs was embarrassing.

He hit a 2-run shot on Tuesday. Followed it with a 1-3 performance on Wednesday. But, of course, then went 0-4 with 2k's and 3 LOB last night.

The kid can hit, though. He just needs to get comfortable.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by YankeePride

The kid can hit, though. He just needs to get comfortable.

I've heard a Royals fan or two remark that Smilin' Alex looks too comfortable.

[CMH]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

I've heard a Royals fan or two remark that Smilin' Alex looks too comfortable.

Ha, I wouldn't doubt that.

He's made comments that he isn't worried about his early lack of performance.

Perhaps it's overconfidence in his ability. As long as he doesn't start trying too hard then he'll be fine.

Yankee fans across the world never thought Robinson Cano could become a .300 hitter when he kept swinging at the first, second, and eventually the third pitch in an at-bat during his rookie season.

Fans are really the last place I'll look for information on a player.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by YankeePride

Yankee fans across the world never thought Robinson Cano could become a .300 hitter when he kept swinging at the first, second, and eventually the third pitch in an at-bat during his rookie season.

I wasn't too surprised that Cano could skipaway from a utililty infielder career.

[CMH]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

I wasn't too surprised that Cano could skipaway from a utililty infielder career.

Neither was Michael Kay, considering Cano was likened to Rod Carew at least once during every at-bat in 2005.

Of course, with Cano in 2005, Kay had to get the name out quickly before Cano swung at the first pitch.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

I wasn't too surprised that Cano could skipaway from a utililty infielder career.

In fairness, I remember that discussion between you two, and at that point, Cano hadn't shown much in the way of plate discipline or doubles ability (aside from his one year in the majors, so that was just as likely not to stick as much as it did). Last year, the doubles came back and advanced even further, however he had a hit-lucky season so he likely won't be hitting .340 again anytime soon.

I projected him this year to hit 301/333/471 with the doubles power sticking. PECOTA sees most of the doubles sticking and a little bit of plate discipline coming (which makes sense considering his age) giving him a projected line of 308/345/472.

What skip was pointing to in that discussion was PECOTA's projected line of (pulling out my 2006 BP) 283/316/425. What they missed was that they regressed his BABIP too far to the mean. He appears to have pretty above average BABIP ability. At that point, it was reasonable to expect him to regress to that line which really isn't too much better than a utility infielder.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by YankeePride

Neither was Michael Kay, considering Cano was likened to Rod Carew at least once during every at-bat in 2005.

Just a non-sequitur here, because you will want to get back to what Luis has just discussed, but YES the other night put up side-by-side tapes of Carew and Cano at the plate. They did look remarkably alike in their stances and swings. That's all. Carry on.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Just a non-sequitur here, because you will want to get back to what Luis has just discussed

Mine was more of a non-sequitur than yours, d00d!

Also, any comparisons to Rod Carew will likely be purely aesthetic unless the man learns to take a walk.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Also, any comparisons to Rod Carew will likely be purely aesthetic unless the man learns to take a walk.

LOL . . . That's one side-by-side video they did not show!

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Also, any comparisons to Rod Carew will likely be purely aesthetic unless the man learns to take a walk.

Cano takes his first two free passes of the season hours after L_R makes this appraisal. Cowinky dink? I think not!

Hey, L_R, isn't it great that Johnny Damon doesn't play CF for the Red Sox?

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Hey, L_R, isn't it great that Johnny Damon doesn't play CF for the Red Sox?

Based on the information that was available at that time, I'm happy with the non-sign. So, sure... it doesn't bother me one bit.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Based on the information that was available at that time, I'm happy with the non-sign. So, sure... it doesn't bother me one bit.

Just think. The Yankees invested one year less, and a crisp two million dollars more than the Halos have in Gary Matthews, Jr.

What a difference a year made, 8,760 little hours.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Just think. The Yankees invested one year less, and a crisp two million dollars more than the Halos have in Gary Matthews, Jr.

What a difference a year made, 8,760 little hours.

Haha yea... that's true. Either way, I probably wouldn't want Damon blocking Ellesbury when he's 35.

Also, if Crisp didn't get injured, I'd likely be praising the move regardless. When considering Crisp at his expected production from 06-09 at his price v. Damon at his price over the same period, I'd take Crisp.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

When considering Crisp at his expected production from 06-09 at his price v. Damon at his price over the same period, I'd take Crisp.

I like Crisp's production as a corner OF. Not so much in the more demanding position.

Who's Ellesbury?

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

I like Crisp's production as a corner OF. Not so much in the more demanding position.

Who's Ellesbury?

Production at the plate is very good for a CF... and his defense is disputable. I trust PMR about 100x more than I trust BP's, and he rated very well last year. Either way, it's probably somewhere in between, I would wager he's in the "slightly above average" category.

Jacoby Ellsbury is the Sox best hitting prospect. He's a CF and should be just about major league ready by the end of the year. If he has a good year in AAA, I would imagine that he'll be a September call up and Crisp will be moved in the offseason.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Production at the plate is very good for a CF... and his defense is disputable. I trust PMR about 100x more than I trust BP's, and he rated very well last year. Either way, it's probably somewhere in between, I would wager he's in the "slightly above average" category.

I wasn't talking about his glove. Moreso, the fact that he doesn't hit/stay healthy when playing CF.

[darkhorse]

dola,

I gotta stop talking about other teams players in this thread.

Firstinning.com. Interesting new site. Well, new to me. Thanks for the link.

[darkhorse]

triola,

Really, I promise. I'll stop now.

Hey, L_R, you really should start a 2007 Boston Red Sox thread for the forum. Jacoby is a strange first name. I'm guessing his parents are Indians fans.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

I wasn't talking about his glove. Moreso, the fact that he doesn't hit/stay healthy when playing CF.

I don't think there's enough information to determine that. Especially since a significant portion of his at bats while playing CF came while recovering from the finger injury from last year.