Time Warp HOF Ballot 1972

jdw · 04-09-2007, 08:24 PM

The Time Warp Baseball League is back up and running with the blessing of its founder, Matt. This is the annual Hall of Fame thread. While last year's class was one of the most loaded in history, this year is lighter.

Have at it.

John

jdw · 04-09-2007, 08:25 PM

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results, 1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results, 1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results, 1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results, 1955 Results, 1956 Results, 1957 Results, 1958 Results, 1959 Results, 1960 Results (lost in board crash), 1961 Results, 1962 Results, 1963 Results, 1964 Results, 1965 Results, 1966 Results, 1967 Results, 1968 Results, 1969 Results, 1970 Results, 1971 Results

All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1970 (retired after 1964 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

PLEASE NOTE:
Players who lost service time to the war are denoted with: WWII

Note: OPS+ and ERA+ are listed for all players now. 100 is considered league average. The higher the # the better the player. This lets you see how they did in relation to the players of their generation while also letting you compare their dominance of the league to players from different eras.

jdw · 04-09-2007, 08:26 PM

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

189 - Woody Woodson
186 - Ray Kress
166 - Dark Horse Allen
163 - Jason Tedford
159 - Whitey Kohse
158 - Oscar Vancini
156 - Charlton Brown
152 - Jed Burke
152 - Patrick Seifried
149 - Genaro Nunez
148 - Whiskey Allen
148 - Ken Chaucer
146 - Peaches Badeau
145 - Blake Crocitto
142 - Hershel Lee
141 - Ben Baum
141 - Tee Carver
141 - Ogden Wing
140 - Bud Breckenridge
140 - John Falise
140 - Ray Brown
140 - Scott Podlasek
140 - Dale Lamberty
140 - Bobby Martin
139 - Dewey Mickelsen
139 - Tom Howard
138 - Tyrell Chestnut
138 - Wolter Tjeenk-Willink
138 - John Degal
137 - Kid Fite
137 - Will Miller
137 - Steven Bussell
137 - Ted McMurray
136 - Harry Cohan
136 - Jared Jarry
135 - John Klehammer
135 - Jimmy Ditty
134 - Carl Kahle
133 - Slap Hertzog
133 - Flaky Arsenault
133 - Roy Hobbs
133 - Dave Arkless
133 - Matt Perly
133 - Mark Silcox
132 - Adolf Greisbach
132 - John Schmieder
132 - Cookie Parrish
131 - Chuck Rauch
131 - Nick Graves
131 - Hans Habermehl
130 - Sunny Davie
129 - Tom Turley
129 - George Ward
129 - Ping Hung
129 - Herman Dunkel
129 - Moonlight Graham
128 - Morris Lutske
127 - Campbell Ditty
127 - Troy Kinnear
127 - Mike Fellner
126 - Bull Zegri
125 - Herm Vardaman
124 - Levi Walls
123 - Dale Reneau
123 - Alan Liao
122 - Sam Kass
122 - Sal Rossi
121 - Quenton Misisca
120 - Ervin Skjerly
118 - Gus Kahle
114 - Jonny Perly
114 - Jon Minzey
110 - David McAuliffe
110 - Ted Stuart
102 - Harry Finley

jdw · 04-09-2007, 08:26 PM

Batters

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 585
RBI: 1906
2B: 665
BB: 1962
R: 2004
SB: 1297

Genarito Nunez, 3B/1B, Last Season: 1954
2432 H, 425 2B, 144 HR, 1151 RBI, 1159 R
554 K, 567 BB, 141 SB
.314 AVG, .358 OBP, .454 SLG, .812 OPS
WWII - 2 Yrs
OPS+: 127
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1974

Luther Ormiston, 3B, Last Season: 1956
1309 H, 262 2B, 281 HR, 1039 RBI, 888 R
614 K, 886 BB, 27 SB
.273 AVG, .385 OBP, .524 SLG, .909 OPS
OPS+: 150
BOY Award: 1948, 1952
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 4
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, HR 2, RBI 4
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1976

Lonny Arrendale, 1B, Last Season: 1958
2063 H, 238 2B, 324 HR, 1148 RBI, 1050 R
914 K, 979 BB, 11 SB
.306 AVG, .393 OBP, .495 SLG, .888 OPS
WWII - 1 Yr
OPS+: 147
BOY Award: 1949
ROY Award: 1944
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: HR (24)
Final Year on Ballot: 1978

Bud Ayers, 3B, Last Season: 1959
2347 H, 393 2B, 261 HR, 1313 RBI, 1124 R
438 K, 811 BB, 3 SB
.290 AVG, .355 OBP, .443 SLG, .798 OPS
WWII - 1 Yr
OPS+: 121
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1979

Bobby Johnson, 1B, Last Season: 1960
1932 H, 380 2B, 363 HR, 1348 RBI, 989 R
861 K, 527 BB, 12 SB
.286 AVG, .338 OBP, .511 SLG, .849 OPS
WWII - 2 Yrs
OPS+: 133
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 4
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, 2B 2, HR 1, RBI 2
Career Top 25: HR (11)
Final Year on Ballot: 1980

Ben Cook, 3B/CF, Last Season: 1961
1722 H, 175 2B, 129 HR, 665 RBI, 1254 R
476 K, 1391 BB, 575 SB
.260 AVG, .389 OBP, .371 SLG, .760 OPS
OPS+: 114
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 3
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Runs 2, SB 7, BB 5
Career Top 25: SB (19), BB (20)
Final Year on Ballot: 1981

Rudel Dietrich, CF, Last Season: 1963
2277 H, 380 2B, 203 HR, 1088 RBI, 1088 R
787 K, 875 BB, 20 SB
.313 AVG, .385 OBP, .473 SLG, .858 OPS
OPS+: 138
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 3
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1983

William Perry, RF, Last Season: 1964
2510 H, 369 2B, 363 HR, 1521 RBI, 1544 R
855 K, 1199 BB, 172 SB
.282 AVG, .368 OBP, .467 SLG, .835 OPS
OPS+: 131
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Runs 1
Career Top 25: HR (11), RBI (20)
Final Year on Ballot: 1984

Wilford Woodworth, 3B, Last Season: 1965
1663 H, 305 2B, 408 HR, 1278 RBI, 1141 R
1286 K, 1051 BB, 57 SB
.244 AVG, .350 OBP, .483 SLG, .833 OPS
OPS+: 128
BOY Award: 1955
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: HR 1, SLG 1, TB 1
Career Top 25: HR (6)
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

NEW

Paul Lett, LF, Last Season: 1966
1890 H, 242 2B, 355 HR, 1196 RBI, 1089 R
686 K, 772 BB, 18 SB
.299 AVG, .373 OBP, .516 SLG, .889 OPS
OPS+: 145
BOY Award: 1961
ROY Award: 1953
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, OPS 1, R 1, TB 1, HR 1, RBI 1
Career Top 25: HR (20)
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

Chip "Buck Fifty" Sinton, RF, Last Season: 1966
1427 H, 290 2B, 280 HR, 927 RBI, 912 R
1094 K, 881 BB, 2 SB
.259 AVG, .359 OBP, .470 SLG, .829 OPS
OPS+: 129
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: K 2
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

Abraham "The Miner" Arsenault, LF, Last Season: 1966
1663 H, 210 2B, 406 HR, 1227 RBI, 1001 R
858 K, 791 BB, 40 SB
.248 AVG, .328 OBP, .469 SLG, .797 OPS
OPS+: 123
BOY Award: 1961
ROY Award: 1954
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: HR 3, RBI 1, TB 1
Career Top 25: HR (10)
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

"Grumpy" Abraham Noel, 1B, Last Season: 1966
2799 H, 331 2B, 253 HR, 1346 RBI, 1248 R
1436 K, 1132 BB, 3 SB
.294 AVG, .371 OBP, .416 SLG, .787 OPS
OPS+: 122
BOY Award: 1959
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: 1959
Led League in: BA 1, OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, R 1, H 1, TB 1, RBI 1
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

Emanuel "Railroad" Ryan, LF, Last Season: 1966
1711 H, 272 2B, 193 HR, 893 RBI, 851 R
796 K, 585 BB, 33 SB
.285 AVG, .348 OBP, .439 SLG, .787 OPS
OPS+: 117
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
WS MVP: 1958
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

Walter Davis, LF, Last Season: 1966
2208 H, 332 2B, 197 HR, 960 RBI, 1274 R
948 K, 1400 BB, 36 SB
.266 AVG, .374 OBP, .390 SLG, .764 OPS
OPS+: 115
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: BB (21)
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

jdw · 04-09-2007, 08:27 PM

Pitchers
Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 446
K: 4028
CG: 601
SHO: 95

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

210 - Andrew Murphy
163 - Frank Smith
162 - Tim Lopresto
161 - Raymond Gindler
158 - Allen Albertini
157 - Jethro Lee
157 - Cecil Tan
145 - Punchy Cote
145 - Howard Adams
145 - Bourbon Allen Jr.
144 - Johnny Cakes Sutton
142 - Cotton Simson
138 - Dave McBean
138 - Martin Gwaltney
137 - Mark Krosser
137 - Johnny Swinson
137 - Carpenter Erickson
136 - Bowie Castellon
135 - Ken Zinn
134 - Otto Kahle
134 - Scott Fenner
133 - Jassen Nelson
131 - Remmy Paul
131 - Luke Riley
131 - Tobe Palmer
129 - David Wiskersham
125 - Adam Sardina
125 - Grady Ingram
124 - Bourbon Allen
124 - Art Booth
121 - Ahrend Nagel
120 - Terry Schukraft
116 - John Nolting
116 - Hal Andrew
115 - Mark Ponfick

jdw · 04-09-2007, 08:27 PM

Corky Stell, Last Season: 1956
163-108, 60.2%, 3.30 ERA
2409 IP, 820 BB, 986 K, 30 CG, 8 SHO, 1.27 WHIP
ERA+: 131
POY Award: 1949, 1952, 1953
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 4
World Championships: 4
WS Record: 2-2, 5.04 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 2, WHIP 1, Wins 2
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1977

Bud Ulrich, Last Season: 1962, HOF Standard: 35
210-125, 62.7%, 3.88 ERA
3274.2 IP, 1411 BB, 2085 K, 73 CG, 16 SHO, 1.34 WHIP
ERA+: 108
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1949
Pennants: 5
World Championships: 5
WS Record: 4-1, 4.77 ERA
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1983

Lex Tjeenk-Willink, Last Season: 1964, HOF Standard: 46
245-170, 59.0%, 3.79 ERA
3877 IP, 1287 BB, 3069 K, 121 CG, 19 SHO, 1.19 WHIP
ERA+: 112
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: NONE
World Championships: NONE
WS Record: N/A
No-Hitters: 2
Led League in: Wins 1
Career Top 25: K's (10)
Final Year on Ballot: 1985

Hank Makris, Last Season: 1964
214-173, 55.3%, 3.48 ERA
3634.0 IP, 1092 BB, 1563 K, 166 CG, 32 SHO, 1.28 WHIP
ERA+: 124
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: 1953, 1958, 1961, 1963
WS MVP: 1957, 1959
Pennants: 2
World Championships: 2
WS Record: 4-0, 0.82 ERA
No-Hitters: 2
Led League in: SHO 2,
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

NEW

SP Danny Mau, Last Season: 1966
199-151, 56.9%, 4.11 ERA
3046.0 IP, 916 BB, 1557 K, 122 CG, 20 SHO
ERA+: 106
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
Pennants: 3
World Championships: 2
WS Record: 2-0, 3.95 ERA
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

RP Loren Cost, Last Season: 1966
73-53, 57.9%, 2.89 ERA
827.1 IP, 296 BB, 562 K, 231 SV
ERA+: N/A
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
GG Award: NONE
WS MVP: NONE
Pennants: 6
World Championships: 2
WS Record: 0-1, 0.00 ERA, 3 SV
Led League in: SV 1
Career Top 25: SV (7)
Final Year on Ballot: 1986

metsgeek · 04-09-2007, 10:38 PM

Nunez
Arrendale
Ayers
Dietrich
Lett
Noel
Ulrich
Stell
Tjeenk-Willink

tward13 · 04-09-2007, 11:08 PM

Stell
Arrendale
Dietrich
Makris
Ormiston

jdw · 04-09-2007, 11:34 PM

Lonny Arrendale
Ben Cook
Rudel Dietrich
Paul Lett
Hank Makris
William Perry
Luther Ormiston
Corky Stell
Wilford Woodworth

John

knightni · 04-10-2007, 01:22 AM

Nunez
Arrendale
Ayers
Perry
Noel
Tjeenk-Willink

jeheinz72 · 04-10-2007, 10:51 AM

Lett
Ormiston
Arrendale
Dietrich
Tjeek-Willink
Cook
Makris

Elendil · 04-10-2007, 11:24 AM

Ormiston
Arrendale
Dietrich
Davis
Tjeenk-Willink

fvamos · 04-10-2007, 01:12 PM

Nunez
Arrendale
Perry
Lett
Willink
Makris
Ulrich

fhomess · 04-10-2007, 01:24 PM

RF William Perry
1B Lonny Arrendale
CF Rudel Dietrich
LF Paul Lett
SP Lex Tjeenk-Willink

Vris · 04-11-2007, 08:54 AM

Bump to remind myself.

Y0DA55 · 04-11-2007, 01:19 PM

Arrendale
Ormiston
Cook
Perry
Lett
Stell
Ulrich
Tjeenk-Willink

Vris · 04-11-2007, 01:53 PM

OF Lett
3B Ormiston
1B Arrendale
OF Perry
3B Cook
1B Johnson
3B Ayers

haggis007 · 04-11-2007, 04:51 PM

Arrendale
Cook
Dietrich
Lett
Perry
Ormiston
Woodworth (when I have time, I will make the case again...)

Stell

ifspuds · 04-11-2007, 05:56 PM

Arrendale
Perry
Tjeenk-Willink
Makris

Elendil · 04-11-2007, 06:01 PM

Arrendale looks to be (almost?) unanimous this time, but Ormiston is getting the cold shoulder. Aren't they more or less the same player, but with Arrendale lasting three full seasons longer and playing a somewhat less valuable defensive position?

04-09-2007, 08:24 PM	#1
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Time Warp HOF Ballot 1972 The Time Warp Baseball League is back up and running with the blessing of its founder, Matt. This is the annual Hall of Fame thread. While last year's class was one of the most loaded in history, this year is lighter. Have at it. John

04-09-2007, 10:38 PM	#7
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04-09-2007, 08:25 PM	#2
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results, 1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results, 1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results, 1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results, 1955 Results, 1956 Results, 1957 Results, 1958 Results, 1959 Results, 1960 Results (lost in board crash), 1961 Results, 1962 Results, 1963 Results, 1964 Results, 1965 Results, 1966 Results, 1967 Results, 1968 Results, 1969 Results, 1970 Results, 1971 Results All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1970 (retired after 1964 season). All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected. Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10. PLEASE NOTE: Players who lost service time to the war are denoted with: WWII Note: OPS+ and ERA+ are listed for all players now. 100 is considered league average. The higher the # the better the player. This lets you see how they did in relation to the players of their generation while also letting you compare their dominance of the league to players from different eras.

04-09-2007, 08:26 PM	#3
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference: 189 - Woody Woodson 186 - Ray Kress 166 - Dark Horse Allen 163 - Jason Tedford 159 - Whitey Kohse 158 - Oscar Vancini 156 - Charlton Brown 152 - Jed Burke 152 - Patrick Seifried 149 - Genaro Nunez 148 - Whiskey Allen 148 - Ken Chaucer 146 - Peaches Badeau 145 - Blake Crocitto 142 - Hershel Lee 141 - Ben Baum 141 - Tee Carver 141 - Ogden Wing 140 - Bud Breckenridge 140 - John Falise 140 - Ray Brown 140 - Scott Podlasek 140 - Dale Lamberty 140 - Bobby Martin 139 - Dewey Mickelsen 139 - Tom Howard 138 - Tyrell Chestnut 138 - Wolter Tjeenk-Willink 138 - John Degal 137 - Kid Fite 137 - Will Miller 137 - Steven Bussell 137 - Ted McMurray 136 - Harry Cohan 136 - Jared Jarry 135 - John Klehammer 135 - Jimmy Ditty 134 - Carl Kahle 133 - Slap Hertzog 133 - Flaky Arsenault 133 - Roy Hobbs 133 - Dave Arkless 133 - Matt Perly 133 - Mark Silcox 132 - Adolf Greisbach 132 - John Schmieder 132 - Cookie Parrish 131 - Chuck Rauch 131 - Nick Graves 131 - Hans Habermehl 130 - Sunny Davie 129 - Tom Turley 129 - George Ward 129 - Ping Hung 129 - Herman Dunkel 129 - Moonlight Graham 128 - Morris Lutske 127 - Campbell Ditty 127 - Troy Kinnear 127 - Mike Fellner 126 - Bull Zegri 125 - Herm Vardaman 124 - Levi Walls 123 - Dale Reneau 123 - Alan Liao 122 - Sam Kass 122 - Sal Rossi 121 - Quenton Misisca 120 - Ervin Skjerly 118 - Gus Kahle 114 - Jonny Perly 114 - Jon Minzey 110 - David McAuliffe 110 - Ted Stuart 102 - Harry Finley

04-09-2007, 08:27 PM	#5
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Pitchers Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): ERA: 2.10 W: 446 K: 4028 CG: 601 SHO: 95 Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference: 210 - Andrew Murphy 163 - Frank Smith 162 - Tim Lopresto 161 - Raymond Gindler 158 - Allen Albertini 157 - Jethro Lee 157 - Cecil Tan 145 - Punchy Cote 145 - Howard Adams 145 - Bourbon Allen Jr. 144 - Johnny Cakes Sutton 142 - Cotton Simson 138 - Dave McBean 138 - Martin Gwaltney 137 - Mark Krosser 137 - Johnny Swinson 137 - Carpenter Erickson 136 - Bowie Castellon 135 - Ken Zinn 134 - Otto Kahle 134 - Scott Fenner 133 - Jassen Nelson 131 - Remmy Paul 131 - Luke Riley 131 - Tobe Palmer 129 - David Wiskersham 125 - Adam Sardina 125 - Grady Ingram 124 - Bourbon Allen 124 - Art Booth 121 - Ahrend Nagel 120 - Terry Schukraft 116 - John Nolting 116 - Hal Andrew 115 - Mark Ponfick

04-09-2007, 11:08 PM	#8
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04-09-2007, 11:34 PM	#9
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Lonny Arrendale Ben Cook Rudel Dietrich Paul Lett Hank Makris William Perry Luther Ormiston Corky Stell Wilford Woodworth John

04-10-2007, 01:12 PM	#13
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04-11-2007, 06:01 PM	#20
Elendil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the dynasty forum Posts: 2,318	Arrendale looks to be (almost?) unanimous this time, but Ormiston is getting the cold shoulder. Aren't they more or less the same player, but with Arrendale lasting three full seasons longer and playing a somewhat less valuable defensive position? __________________ Heaven is kicking back with a double Talisker and a churchwarden stuffed with latakia.