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mh2365 · 04-07-2007, 06:25 PM

IMO the wildcard is always the 4th seed no matter what. But maybe it should be a vote.

Romdawg88 · 04-07-2007, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

IMO the wildcard is always the 4th seed no matter what. But maybe it should be a vote.

A vote might be the best way to go. Truthfully, I just kind of want to put off a rematch with the Beavers for as long as possible. If I'm not mistaken the NBA does something similar where if a lower seed as a better record then one of the division winners the lower seed gets home court advantage.

CONN CHRIS · 04-07-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

IMO the wildcard is always the 4th seed no matter what. But maybe it should be a vote.

Great, Icetea and I can fight it out for the division then face each other again in the first elimination round.

mh2365 · 04-07-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Romdawg88

A vote might be the best way to go. Truthfully, I just kind of want to put off a rematch with the Beavers for as long as possible. If I'm not mistaken the NBA does something similar where if a lower seed as a better record then one of the division winners the lower seed gets home court advantage.

Division winners always get home court in the first round I believe but I could be wrong.

Here's my idea. Wildcard can't be at home in the playoffs, but they also don't have to play the winner of their own division in the first round.

kenyan_cheena · 04-07-2007, 06:59 PM

I think that, considering the fact that we've got six divisional matches out of ten total matches, the divisional champions should be seeds #1 - #3 regardless of points scored. They have proven themselves to be the best of their group, something that the wildcard will not have done. The points scored will not always stay the same, as the schedule will change each season as far as inter-divisional matches are concerned. I can already see that my Assassins will struggle to make the playoffs next season as we'll be up against Icetea, Hebron and the Mexivilles.

Romdawg88 · 04-07-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

Division winners always get home court in the first round I believe but I could be wrong.

Here's my idea. Wildcard can't be at home in the playoffs, but they also don't have to play the winner of their own division in the first round.

I just looked it up and in the NBA the team with the best record gets home court regardless of seeding.

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

I think that, considering the fact that we've got six divisional matches out of ten total matches, the divisional champions should be seeds #1 - #3 regardless of points scored. They have proven themselves to be the best of their group, something that the wildcard will not have done. The points scored will not always stay the same, as the schedule will change each season as far as inter-divisional matches are concerned. I can already see that my Assassins will struggle to make the playoffs next season as we'll be up against Icetea, Hebron and the Mexivilles.

The thing is KC with the that the division winners might not have proven themselves the best in their groups. Just look at the wildcards right now, the Muckboys will the third highest point total in the league, have beaten all three division leaders, and if I win in week 9 will have swept the division and in all likelyhood even if I do win the next three matches I still won't win the division. Dave is probably going to win the division not because he has a better team, which he doesn't as our match showed our teams pretty much equal, but because he can blow out bad teams better then we can.

Chris is in the same boat as me. He hasn't lose since week 1 and has a ten point win over the current 1st seed. He could still be stuck in the wildcard even if he beats Icetea in week 10 depending on how things go over the next two weeks. I just think it isn't fair to penalize teams who get the wildcard simply because their stuck in the same division as some monster scoring squad even though they've outperformed the other playoff teams. Of course, Chris and myself could easily lose to Icetea, Tile Hill, or TC in the coming weeks sending all my arguments up in flames.

Damn, KC you didn't do yourself any favors on next year schedule. Good luck next year.

kenyan_cheena · 04-07-2007, 07:57 PM

The problem seems to be related to the topic I brought up before the season, about the scoring system. When we only use total points scored as the determining factor in the standings, the importance of each team's win-loss record as far as each matchup is concerned is severely diminished. Looking at the league power rankings after week six shows this. The Muckboys and Mexiveilles were the only 6-0 undefeated teams yet were ranked 5th and 6th in +/-, 5th and 7th in average points scored and 5th and 6th in average points allowed. You and Mike had beaten everyone you'd gone up against to that point but weren't ranked in the top four in any of those categories.

Romultiltus · 04-07-2007, 08:20 PM

I think the playoff seedings should be simple, the division leaders get seeds 1,2,3 and the wildcard will always be 4 (regardless of points total).

#1 faces #4 (wildcard)
#2 faces #3

The only exception would be if #1 and the WC are from the same division. Just like MLB, the WC should never face its divison leader in the first round of the playoffs. If this happens ...

#1 faces #3
#2 faces #4 (WC)

In any match including the WC, the division winner should be the home team. I don't think that the WC should ever get home-field.

A vote would be good.

Romdawg88 · 04-07-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

The problem seems to be related to the topic I brought up before the season, about the scoring system. When we only use total points scored as the determining factor in the standings, the importance of each team's win-loss record as far as each matchup is concerned is severely diminished. Looking at the league power rankings after week six shows this. The Muckboys and Mexiveilles were the only 6-0 undefeated teams yet were ranked 5th and 6th in +/-, 5th and 7th in average points scored and 5th and 6th in average points allowed. You and Mike had beaten everyone you'd gone up against to that point but weren't ranked in the top four in any of those categories.

Just like then, I agree with you. I would like to see the actual results of the matches factor into the standings somehow.

kenyan_cheena · 04-07-2007, 08:28 PM

If we did the standings based simply on matchup wins and losses, they'd look like this:

east

bonner 5-1
tile hill 4-2
boxing 2-4
stockholm 0-6

central

mccune 4-2
bears 3-2-1
brazil 3-2-1
long island 0-6

west

muck 6-0
tomato 5-1
dublin 2-4
left jab 1-5

north

hebron 5-1
icetea 5-1
nobodies 2-4
420th 0-6

midwest

oak 4-2
undisputed 3-3
hoosier 3-3
cawkney 1-5

south

mexi 6-0
jugger 4-2
punching 3-3
chilton 0-6

CONN CHRIS · 04-07-2007, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

I think the playoff seedings should be simple, the division leaders get seeds 1,2,3 and the wildcard will always be 4 (regardless of points total).

#1 faces #4 (wildcard)
#2 faces #3

The only exception would be if #1 and the WC are from the same division. Just like MLB, the WC should never face its divison leader in the first round of the playoffs. If this happens ...

#1 faces #3
#2 faces #4 (WC)

In any match including the WC, the division winner should be the home team. I don't think that the WC should ever get home-field.

A vote would be good.

I would vote for this arrangement.

Of course any arrangement will seem unfair to someone but this follows a standard at least used in some segments of the sports world.

jbergey22 · 04-07-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I would vote for this arrangement.

Of course any arrangement will seem unfair to someone but this follows a standard at least used in some segments of the sports world.

I like this format as well!

mh2365 · 04-07-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I would vote for this arrangement.

Of course any arrangement will seem unfair to someone but this follows a standard at least used in some segments of the sports world.

Considering it's exactly what I suggest I agree too

SAL · 04-07-2007, 09:57 PM

April 7, 2007

Stockholm Globe Arena, Stockholm, Sweden

McCune Mitt Slingers @ Stockholm's Finest

Bout Results:
(McCune Mitt Slingers listed first)

FLY- Eric Morel L KO 10 Yuri Arbachakov

FLY- Luis Maldonado L KO 5 Evert Briceno

BW- Alphonse Halimi W TKO 8 (CH)Akeem Anifowoshe
Bantamweight Championship bout

BW- (CH)Alphonse Halimi L MD 15 Jimmy Carruthers
Bantamweight Championship bout

FW- Eddie Santry W TKO 8 Torpedo Billy Murphy

FW- Joan Guzman L UD 12 Davey Kotey (Joan Guzman advances to pre-prime)

LW- Beau Jack W TKO 6 Michael Ayers

LW- Sergei Artemiev W KO 10 Jesus Chavez

WW- Cory Spinks W UD 12 Arturo Gatti

WW- Willie Lewis W SD 12 Thomas Damgaard

MW- Walter Cartier W UD 12 Steven Bendall

MW- Gerald McClellan L TechUD 10 Arthur Abraham

LHW- Gus Lesnevich W UD 12 David Telesco (David Telesco advances to pre-prime)

LHW- Fabrice Tiozzo W KO 4 Mehdi Sahnoune

HW- Bruce Seldon L KO 9 Ingemar Johansson (Ingemar Johansson advances to pre-prime)

HW- Matt Skelton L TKO 8 Corrie Sanders

=======================================

Halftime Score:
McCune Mitt Slingers 9-7-0 (4) = 22
Stockholm's Finest 7-9-0 (4) = 18
=======================================

FLY- Eric Morel W KO 6 Evert Briceno (Eric Morel advances to pre-prime)

FLY- Luis Maldonado L KO 8 Yuri Arbachakov

BW- Freddie Jackson L TKO 8 (CH)Jimmy Carruthers
Bantamweight Championship bout

BW- Freddie Jackson L TKO 7 Akeem Anifowoshe

FW- Eddie Santry L KO 5 Davey Kotey

FW- Joan Guzman W KO 8 Torpedo Billy Murphy

LW- Beau Jack L DQ 6 Jesus Chavez

LW- Sergei Artemiev W KO 9 Michael Ayers

WW- Willie Lewis W UD 12 Arturo Gatti

WW- Cory Spinks W SD 12 Thomas Damgaard

MW- Gerald McClellan W KO 5 Steven Bendall

MW- Walter Cartier W TKO 12 Arthur Abraham

LHW- Gus Lesnevich W TKO 11 Mehdi Sahnoune (Gus Lesnevich advances to pre-prime)

LHW- Fabrice Tiozzo W UD 12 David Telesco

HW- Matt Skelton W TKO 9 Ingemar Johansson (Matt Skelton advances to Prime)

HW- Bruce Seldon W UD 12 Corrie Sanders

=======================================
Final Score:
McCune Mitt Slingers 20-12-0 (12) (DQ-1) = 51
Stockholm's Finest 12-20-0 (8) = 32
=======================================

* New and 2-time BW Champion.........Jimmy Carruthers

Jimmy Carruthers becomes the 4th fighter in UTBA history to become a 2-time champ in the BW division.

CONN CHRIS · 04-07-2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

Considering it's exactly what I suggest I agree too

Connie told me to ignore you.

SAL · 04-07-2007, 10:02 PM

April 7, 2007

Ricoh Arena, Foleshill, Coventry, England

Long Island Lipbusters @ Tile Hill Top Team

Bout Results:
(Long Island Lipbusters listed first)

FLY- Sot Chitalada W SD 12 Young Perez

FLY- Henry Nissen W SD 12 Dave McAuley

BW- Vic Toweel W KO 11 Lionel Rose

BW- Bernardo Caraballo L TKO 11 Digger Stanley

FW- Young Corbett L UD 12 Terry Spinks

FW- Sal Bartolo L TKO 8 Johnny Tapia

LW- Steve Johnston L TKO 2 Freddie Welsh

LW- Lou Bizzarro L TKO 7 Dave Charnley

WW- Rene Arredondo L TKO 9 Lloyd Honeyghan

WW- Chris Christensen L KO 5 Colin Jones

MW- Randy Turpin W KO 9 Terry Downes

MW- Joey Giardello L UD 12 Jock McAvoy

LHW- Rudi Koopmans L TechUD 9 Dwight Qawi

LHW- Alvaro Lopez Draw 12 Chic Calderwood

HW- Lou Nova L KO 1 Alex Stewart

HW- Jean-Marc Mormeck L TKO 8 Donovan Ruddock

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Halftime Score:
Long Island Lipbusters 4-11-1 (2) = 11
Tile Hill Top Team 11-4-1 (8) = 31
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FLY- Sot Chitalada W TKO 10 Dave McAuley

FLY- Henry Nissen L UD 12 Young Perez

BW- Vic Toweel L MD 12 Digger Stanley

BW- Bernardo Caraballo W SD 12 Lionel Rose

FW- Sal Bartolo L UD 12 Terry Spinks

FW- Young Corbett W UD 12 Johnny Tapia

LW- Lou Bizzarro L UD 12 Freddie Welsh

LW- Steve Johnston L KO 9 Dave Charnley

WW- Chris Christensen L KO 10 Lloyd Honeyghan (Chris Christensen advances to Prime)

WW- Rene Arredondo L TKO 6 Colin Jones

MW- Joey Giardello Draw 12 Terry Downes

MW- Randy Turpin W TKO 8 Jock McAvoy

LHW- Alvaro Lopez L TKO 10 Dwight Qawi

LHW- Rudi Koopmans L KO 2 Chic Calderwood

HW- Lou Nova L KO 7 Donovan Ruddock (Lou Nova advances to pre-prime)

HW- Jean-Marc Mormeck Draw 12 Alex Stewart

=================================
Final Score:
Long Island Lipbusters 8-21-3 (4) = 23
Tile Hill Top Team 21-8-3 (14) = 59
=================================

Romdawg88 · 04-07-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAL

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Final Score:
Long Island Lipbusters 8-21-3 (4) = 23
Tile Hill Top Team 21-8-3 (14) = 59
=================================

Damn, I thought for sure that with my 57 I would be able to put abit of distance between us and Tile Hill but it wasn't meant to be. Great win for ya Ian, I'm looking forward to our match next week.

SAL · 04-08-2007, 01:02 PM

April 8, 2007

Wembley Stadium, London, England

Hoosier Playboys @ Chilton Roughnecks

Bout Results:
(Hoosier Playboys listed first)

FLY- Pone Kingpetch L TKO 7 Pascual Perez

FLY- Johnny Buff W SD 12 Charlie Magri

BW- Luis Alberto Perez Draw 12 Johnny Bredahl

BW- Jhonny Gonzalez W TKO 3 Thomas Palmer

FW- Ike Chestnut L UD 12 Benny Bass

FW- Jaime Garza W UD 12 Wayne McCullough (Jaime Garza advances to pre-prime)

LW- Cornelius Boza-Edwards L MD 12 Jesse James Leija (Boza-Edwards advances to pre-prime)

LW- Jorge Paez L TKO 3 Norman Goins

WW- Jose Baret L SD 12 Ernie Roderick

WW- Jimmy Gardner L UD 12 Floyd Mayweather Sr

MW- Mustafa Hamsho W UD 12 Herol Graham

MW- Jimmy Flood L KO 11 Antwun Echols

LHW- Paul Smallman L KO 10 Billy Fox

LHW- Victor Galindez W MD 12 Melio Bettina

HW- Tommy Burns W UD 12 Jimmy Thunder

HW- Lamon Brewster W KO 12 Jack Sharkey

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Halftime Score:
Hoosier Playboys 7-8-1 (2) = 17
Chilton Roughnecks 8-7-1 (4) = 21
===================================

FLY- Johnny Buff W TKO 10 Pascual Perez (Pascual Perez advances to pre-prime)

FLY- Pone Kingpetch L TKO 10 Charlie Magri

BW- Luis Alberto Perez L SD 12 Thomas Palmer

BW- Jhonny Gonzalez W KO 9 Johnny Bredahl

FW- Ike Chestnut W UD 12 Wayne McCullough (Wayne McCullough advances to pre-prime)

FW- Jaime Garza L UD 12 Benny Bass

LW- Jorge Paez W TKO 8 Jesse James Leija

LW- Cornelius Boza-Edwards W KO 1 Norman Goins

WW- Jose Baret L KO 5 Floyd Mayweather Sr

WW- Jimmy Gardner W TechUD 8 Ernie Roderick

MW- Mustafa Hamsho W KO 7 Antwun Echols (Antwun Echols advances to pre-prime)

MW- Jimmy Flood L UD 12 Herol Graham

LHW- Victor Galindez W TKO 10 Billy Fox

LHW- Paul Smallman L TKO 11 Melio Bettina

HW- Lamon Brewster W TKO 3 Jimmy Thunder

HW- Tommy Burns L KO 10 Jack Sharkey

===================================
Final Score:
Hoosier Playboys 16-15-1 (9) = 42
Chilton Roughnecks 15-16-1 (8) = 39
===================================

SAL · 04-08-2007, 01:05 PM

April 8, 2007

Fenway Park, Boston, MA

Cawkney Crusaders @ Juggernaut

Bout Results:
(Cawkney Crusaders listed first)

FLY- Fritz Chervet W UD 12 Roberto Vasquez

FLY- Koji Kobayashi L UD 12 Irene Pacheco

BW- Jeff Chandler W MD 12 Tommy Kelly

BW- Israel Contreras W KO 6 Miguel Martinez

FW- (CH)Howard Winstone W TKO 7 Wilfredo Gomez
Featherweight Championship Bout

FW- Leo Rodak Draw 12 Diego Morales

LW- Al Davis W TKO 4 Greg Haugen

LW- Tony Pep L UD 12 Howard Davis Jr

WW- Tony DeMarco L UD 12 Randy Shields

WW- Hedgemon Lewis W SD 12 Young Jack Thompson

MW- Juan Roldan W KO 8 Rito Ruvalcaba

MW- Marcel Thil L TKO 9 Tony Zale

LHW- Lotte Mwale W KO 6 Larry Marks

LHW- Georges Carpentier L KO 1 Paul Berlenbach

HW- Bruce Woodcock W TKO 2 Ken Norton

HW- John L Sullivan L TechUD 10 Gerry Cooney

======================================

Halftime Score:
Cawkney Crusaders 9-6-1 (6) = 25
Juggernaut 6-9-1 (2) = 15
======================================

FLY- Fritz Chervet L MD 12 Irene Pacheco

FLY- Koji Kobayashi L TKO 9 Roberto Vasquez

BW- Israel Contreras L UD 12 Tommy Kelly

BW- Jeff Chandler W UD 12 Miguel Martinez

FW- (CH)Howard Winstone W KO 13 Diego Morales
Featherweight Championship Bout

FW- Leo Rodak W UD 12 Wilfredo Gomez

LW- Tony Pep L KO 11 Greg Haugen

LW- Al Davis L UD 12 Howard Davis Jr

WW- Hedgemon Lewis L SD 12 Randy Shields

WW- Tony DeMarco W UD 12 Young Jack Thompson

MW- Juan Roldan L TKO 1 Tony Zale

MW- Marcel Thil L KO 12 Rito Ruvalcaba

LHW- Georges Carpentier W KO 7 Larry Marks

LHW- Lotte Mwale W KO 4 Paul Berlenbach

HW- Bruce Woodcock L KO 8 Gerry Cooney

HW- John L Sullivan L UD 12 Ken Norton

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Final Score:
Cawkney Crusaders 15-16-1 (9) = 40
Juggernaut 16-15-1 (7) = 40
======================================

Claybor · 04-08-2007, 01:06 PM

@#$%, 40 points was not what I needed. The plan is already in jeopardy.

Young Jack Thompson has been a total disappointment.

Norton loses 2!!!

04-07-2007, 08:20 PM	#4468
Romultiltus Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Haven, CT Posts: 19,016	I think the playoff seedings should be simple, the division leaders get seeds 1,2,3 and the wildcard will always be 4 (regardless of points total). #1 faces #4 (wildcard) #2 faces #3 The only exception would be if #1 and the WC are from the same division. Just like MLB, the WC should never face its divison leader in the first round of the playoffs. If this happens ... #1 faces #3 #2 faces #4 (WC) In any match including the WC, the division winner should be the home team. I don't think that the WC should ever get home-field. A vote would be good. __________________ Season 4 Rosters Link Page Waiver/Free Agent Page UTBA-II Season 4 Standings Season 4 Schedule Season 3 Rosters Link Page

04-07-2007, 09:57 PM	#4474
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Week 7 April 7, 2007 Stockholm Globe Arena, Stockholm, Sweden McCune Mitt Slingers @ Stockholm's Finest Bout Results: (McCune Mitt Slingers listed first) FLY- Eric Morel L KO 10 Yuri Arbachakov FLY- Luis Maldonado L KO 5 Evert Briceno BW- Alphonse Halimi W TKO 8 (CH)Akeem Anifowoshe Bantamweight Championship bout BW- (CH)Alphonse Halimi L MD 15 Jimmy Carruthers Bantamweight Championship bout FW- Eddie Santry W TKO 8 Torpedo Billy Murphy FW- Joan Guzman L UD 12 Davey Kotey (Joan Guzman advances to pre-prime) LW- Beau Jack W TKO 6 Michael Ayers LW- Sergei Artemiev W KO 10 Jesus Chavez WW- Cory Spinks W UD 12 Arturo Gatti WW- Willie Lewis W SD 12 Thomas Damgaard MW- Walter Cartier W UD 12 Steven Bendall MW- Gerald McClellan L TechUD 10 Arthur Abraham LHW- Gus Lesnevich W UD 12 David Telesco (David Telesco advances to pre-prime) LHW- Fabrice Tiozzo W KO 4 Mehdi Sahnoune HW- Bruce Seldon L KO 9 Ingemar Johansson (Ingemar Johansson advances to pre-prime) HW- Matt Skelton L TKO 8 Corrie Sanders ======================================= Halftime Score: McCune Mitt Slingers 9-7-0 (4) = 22 Stockholm's Finest 7-9-0 (4) = 18 ======================================= FLY- Eric Morel W KO 6 Evert Briceno (Eric Morel advances to pre-prime) FLY- Luis Maldonado L KO 8 Yuri Arbachakov BW- Freddie Jackson L TKO 8 (CH)Jimmy Carruthers Bantamweight Championship bout BW- Freddie Jackson L TKO 7 Akeem Anifowoshe FW- Eddie Santry L KO 5 Davey Kotey FW- Joan Guzman W KO 8 Torpedo Billy Murphy LW- Beau Jack L DQ 6 Jesus Chavez LW- Sergei Artemiev W KO 9 Michael Ayers WW- Willie Lewis W UD 12 Arturo Gatti WW- Cory Spinks W SD 12 Thomas Damgaard MW- Gerald McClellan W KO 5 Steven Bendall MW- Walter Cartier W TKO 12 Arthur Abraham LHW- Gus Lesnevich W TKO 11 Mehdi Sahnoune (Gus Lesnevich advances to pre-prime) LHW- Fabrice Tiozzo W UD 12 David Telesco HW- Matt Skelton W TKO 9 Ingemar Johansson (Matt Skelton advances to Prime) HW- Bruce Seldon W UD 12 Corrie Sanders ======================================= Final Score: McCune Mitt Slingers 20-12-0 (12) (DQ-1) = 51 Stockholm's Finest 12-20-0 (8) = 32 ======================================= * New and 2-time BW Champion.........Jimmy Carruthers Jimmy Carruthers becomes the 4th fighter in UTBA history to become a 2-time champ in the BW division. Last edited by SAL; 04-07-2007 at 09:58 PM.

04-07-2007, 10:02 PM	#4476
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Week 7 April 7, 2007 Ricoh Arena, Foleshill, Coventry, England Long Island Lipbusters @ Tile Hill Top Team Bout Results: (Long Island Lipbusters listed first) FLY- Sot Chitalada W SD 12 Young Perez FLY- Henry Nissen W SD 12 Dave McAuley BW- Vic Toweel W KO 11 Lionel Rose BW- Bernardo Caraballo L TKO 11 Digger Stanley FW- Young Corbett L UD 12 Terry Spinks FW- Sal Bartolo L TKO 8 Johnny Tapia LW- Steve Johnston L TKO 2 Freddie Welsh LW- Lou Bizzarro L TKO 7 Dave Charnley WW- Rene Arredondo L TKO 9 Lloyd Honeyghan WW- Chris Christensen L KO 5 Colin Jones MW- Randy Turpin W KO 9 Terry Downes MW- Joey Giardello L UD 12 Jock McAvoy LHW- Rudi Koopmans L TechUD 9 Dwight Qawi LHW- Alvaro Lopez Draw 12 Chic Calderwood HW- Lou Nova L KO 1 Alex Stewart HW- Jean-Marc Mormeck L TKO 8 Donovan Ruddock ================================= Halftime Score: Long Island Lipbusters 4-11-1 (2) = 11 Tile Hill Top Team 11-4-1 (8) = 31 ================================= FLY- Sot Chitalada W TKO 10 Dave McAuley FLY- Henry Nissen L UD 12 Young Perez BW- Vic Toweel L MD 12 Digger Stanley BW- Bernardo Caraballo W SD 12 Lionel Rose FW- Sal Bartolo L UD 12 Terry Spinks FW- Young Corbett W UD 12 Johnny Tapia LW- Lou Bizzarro L UD 12 Freddie Welsh LW- Steve Johnston L KO 9 Dave Charnley WW- Chris Christensen L KO 10 Lloyd Honeyghan (Chris Christensen advances to Prime) WW- Rene Arredondo L TKO 6 Colin Jones MW- Joey Giardello Draw 12 Terry Downes MW- Randy Turpin W TKO 8 Jock McAvoy LHW- Alvaro Lopez L TKO 10 Dwight Qawi LHW- Rudi Koopmans L KO 2 Chic Calderwood HW- Lou Nova L KO 7 Donovan Ruddock (Lou Nova advances to pre-prime) HW- Jean-Marc Mormeck Draw 12 Alex Stewart ================================= Final Score: Long Island Lipbusters 8-21-3 (4) = 23 Tile Hill Top Team 21-8-3 (14) = 59 =================================

04-08-2007, 01:02 PM	#4478
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Week 7 April 8, 2007 Wembley Stadium, London, England Hoosier Playboys @ Chilton Roughnecks Bout Results: (Hoosier Playboys listed first) FLY- Pone Kingpetch L TKO 7 Pascual Perez FLY- Johnny Buff W SD 12 Charlie Magri BW- Luis Alberto Perez Draw 12 Johnny Bredahl BW- Jhonny Gonzalez W TKO 3 Thomas Palmer FW- Ike Chestnut L UD 12 Benny Bass FW- Jaime Garza W UD 12 Wayne McCullough (Jaime Garza advances to pre-prime) LW- Cornelius Boza-Edwards L MD 12 Jesse James Leija (Boza-Edwards advances to pre-prime) LW- Jorge Paez L TKO 3 Norman Goins WW- Jose Baret L SD 12 Ernie Roderick WW- Jimmy Gardner L UD 12 Floyd Mayweather Sr MW- Mustafa Hamsho W UD 12 Herol Graham MW- Jimmy Flood L KO 11 Antwun Echols LHW- Paul Smallman L KO 10 Billy Fox LHW- Victor Galindez W MD 12 Melio Bettina HW- Tommy Burns W UD 12 Jimmy Thunder HW- Lamon Brewster W KO 12 Jack Sharkey =================================== Halftime Score: Hoosier Playboys 7-8-1 (2) = 17 Chilton Roughnecks 8-7-1 (4) = 21 =================================== FLY- Johnny Buff W TKO 10 Pascual Perez (Pascual Perez advances to pre-prime) FLY- Pone Kingpetch L TKO 10 Charlie Magri BW- Luis Alberto Perez L SD 12 Thomas Palmer BW- Jhonny Gonzalez W KO 9 Johnny Bredahl FW- Ike Chestnut W UD 12 Wayne McCullough (Wayne McCullough advances to pre-prime) FW- Jaime Garza L UD 12 Benny Bass LW- Jorge Paez W TKO 8 Jesse James Leija LW- Cornelius Boza-Edwards W KO 1 Norman Goins WW- Jose Baret L KO 5 Floyd Mayweather Sr WW- Jimmy Gardner W TechUD 8 Ernie Roderick MW- Mustafa Hamsho W KO 7 Antwun Echols (Antwun Echols advances to pre-prime) MW- Jimmy Flood L UD 12 Herol Graham LHW- Victor Galindez W TKO 10 Billy Fox LHW- Paul Smallman L TKO 11 Melio Bettina HW- Lamon Brewster W TKO 3 Jimmy Thunder HW- Tommy Burns L KO 10 Jack Sharkey =================================== Final Score: Hoosier Playboys 16-15-1 (9) = 42 Chilton Roughnecks 15-16-1 (8) = 39 ===================================

04-08-2007, 01:05 PM	#4479
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Week 7 April 8, 2007 Fenway Park, Boston, MA Cawkney Crusaders @ Juggernaut Bout Results: (Cawkney Crusaders listed first) FLY- Fritz Chervet W UD 12 Roberto Vasquez FLY- Koji Kobayashi L UD 12 Irene Pacheco BW- Jeff Chandler W MD 12 Tommy Kelly BW- Israel Contreras W KO 6 Miguel Martinez FW- (CH)Howard Winstone W TKO 7 Wilfredo Gomez Featherweight Championship Bout FW- Leo Rodak Draw 12 Diego Morales LW- Al Davis W TKO 4 Greg Haugen LW- Tony Pep L UD 12 Howard Davis Jr WW- Tony DeMarco L UD 12 Randy Shields WW- Hedgemon Lewis W SD 12 Young Jack Thompson MW- Juan Roldan W KO 8 Rito Ruvalcaba MW- Marcel Thil L TKO 9 Tony Zale LHW- Lotte Mwale W KO 6 Larry Marks LHW- Georges Carpentier L KO 1 Paul Berlenbach HW- Bruce Woodcock W TKO 2 Ken Norton HW- John L Sullivan L TechUD 10 Gerry Cooney ====================================== Halftime Score: Cawkney Crusaders 9-6-1 (6) = 25 Juggernaut 6-9-1 (2) = 15 ====================================== FLY- Fritz Chervet L MD 12 Irene Pacheco FLY- Koji Kobayashi L TKO 9 Roberto Vasquez BW- Israel Contreras L UD 12 Tommy Kelly BW- Jeff Chandler W UD 12 Miguel Martinez FW- (CH)Howard Winstone W KO 13 Diego Morales Featherweight Championship Bout FW- Leo Rodak W UD 12 Wilfredo Gomez LW- Tony Pep L KO 11 Greg Haugen LW- Al Davis L UD 12 Howard Davis Jr WW- Hedgemon Lewis L SD 12 Randy Shields WW- Tony DeMarco W UD 12 Young Jack Thompson MW- Juan Roldan L TKO 1 Tony Zale MW- Marcel Thil L KO 12 Rito Ruvalcaba LHW- Georges Carpentier W KO 7 Larry Marks LHW- Lotte Mwale W KO 4 Paul Berlenbach HW- Bruce Woodcock L KO 8 Gerry Cooney HW- John L Sullivan L UD 12 Ken Norton ====================================== Final Score: Cawkney Crusaders 15-16-1 (9) = 40 Juggernaut 16-15-1 (7) = 40 ======================================

04-07-2007, 06:25 PM	#4461
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	IMO the wildcard is always the 4th seed no matter what. But maybe it should be a vote.

04-07-2007, 06:59 PM	#4465
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	I think that, considering the fact that we've got six divisional matches out of ten total matches, the divisional champions should be seeds #1 - #3 regardless of points scored. They have proven themselves to be the best of their group, something that the wildcard will not have done. The points scored will not always stay the same, as the schedule will change each season as far as inter-divisional matches are concerned. I can already see that my Assassins will struggle to make the playoffs next season as we'll be up against Icetea, Hebron and the Mexivilles.

04-07-2007, 07:57 PM	#4467
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	The problem seems to be related to the topic I brought up before the season, about the scoring system. When we only use total points scored as the determining factor in the standings, the importance of each team's win-loss record as far as each matchup is concerned is severely diminished. Looking at the league power rankings after week six shows this. The Muckboys and Mexiveilles were the only 6-0 undefeated teams yet were ranked 5th and 6th in +/-, 5th and 7th in average points scored and 5th and 6th in average points allowed. You and Mike had beaten everyone you'd gone up against to that point but weren't ranked in the top four in any of those categories.

04-07-2007, 08:28 PM	#4470
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	If we did the standings based simply on matchup wins and losses, they'd look like this: east bonner 5-1 tile hill 4-2 boxing 2-4 stockholm 0-6 central mccune 4-2 bears 3-2-1 brazil 3-2-1 long island 0-6 west muck 6-0 tomato 5-1 dublin 2-4 left jab 1-5 north hebron 5-1 icetea 5-1 nobodies 2-4 420th 0-6 midwest oak 4-2 undisputed 3-3 hoosier 3-3 cawkney 1-5 south mexi 6-0 jugger 4-2 punching 3-3 chilton 0-6

04-08-2007, 01:06 PM	#4480
Claybor All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,360 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	@#$%, 40 points was not what I needed. The plan is already in jeopardy. Young Jack Thompson has been a total disappointment. Norton loses 2!!! Last edited by Claybor; 04-08-2007 at 01:09 PM.