MARKUS will you ever make a Basketball game?

mgold97 · 02-23-2002, 03:16 PM

I love basketball,baseball,and football. I have Season ticket baseball and would love to have a basketball game just like it.

JHDOhio · 02-23-2002, 05:29 PM

There is already a very good basketball sim out there its called Fast break Basketball its at <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com\fbb," target="_blank">www.sportplanet.com\fbb</a> the developer is great and is constantly refining the game and communicating with the gamers

[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: JHDOhio ]

CubsFan02 · 02-23-2002, 08:38 PM

THE biggest sig ever.

JML · 02-23-2002, 09:33 PM

Heee-uuuge

mgold97 · 02-24-2002, 08:51 AM

I know fastbreak basketball it has no financial system at all. It is just simming,signing,and drafting. Their are no profits or loses just a salary cap. A game like OOT4 or STB for basketball would be awesome.

Steve Kuffrey · 02-24-2002, 08:58 AM

<a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/jsb/" target="_blank">Jump Shot</a> has finances.

JHDOhio · 02-24-2002, 12:26 PM

It all depends on what you value in a basketball game. In basketball the finances are not very important because of revenue sharing and the salary cap with that said FBB does plan on incorporating finances into the game very soon

heavyreign · 02-24-2002, 03:20 PM

NBA finances are definately different than baseball. With the addition of the luxury tax, it is now more important how much income a team can bring in. If you follow basketball rumors, there are a number of trades that don't happen mainly because they would put one team over the luxury tax threshold. In the past, that hasn't really been the case. While in baseball it was reported that maybe five teams made a profit last season. most basketball teams make a profit.

bigphesta · 02-24-2002, 05:33 PM

IT was ALSO reported that Enron made a profit last year... So that's not really a good measure of who's actually making money. I find it VERY HARD to believe that ANY teams are LOOSING money in baseball. And if any are it's just a couple. but I doubt that.

Mike D · 02-24-2002, 07:29 PM

JDOhio, do us all a huge favor, and lose the CC Crapathia signature, because it takes up a whole damn screen, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly mug.... And by the way, what is he the future of? Overrated 21 year-old pitchers?

[ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: Mike D ]

heavyreign · 02-24-2002, 07:47 PM

Very true. When I was researching basketball, looking at the size of TV contracts and other things along average ticket prices and attendance, it just doesn't seem possible that any of the teams could be losing money. A similar review of the baseball would probably show the same. The one team I might expect to lose money based on things like attendance and TV revenue would be the Expos and they don't exactly have a large payroll.

My point as far as basketball was that you didn't ever really hear that a team couldn't make a transaction due to money concerns until the luxury tax was instituted. Thus, if most teams are on a similar level as far as what they can spend, simming everything down to parking prices doesn't necessarily have much impact on the game.

hellfrozeover · 02-24-2002, 08:41 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Mike D:
JDOhio, do us all a huge favor, and lose the CC Crapathia signature, because it takes up a whole damn screen, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly mug.... And by the way, what is he the future of? Overrated 21 year-old pitchers?

[ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: Mike D ]<hr></blockquote>

Hey, C.C. Sabathia is a good pitcher. But I agree lose the pic.

Mike D · 02-25-2002, 03:04 AM

One year does not make a good player... Carlos Beltran.... Tuffy Rhodes....Dwight Smith... Jerome Walton.... Steve Stone....

Erich Ingram · 02-25-2002, 03:32 AM

don't include Beltran in that group yet. He now has had 2 good years and is still very young.

JHDOhio · 02-25-2002, 09:07 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike D:
[QB]JDOhio, do us all a huge favor, and lose the CC Crapathia signature, because it takes up a whole damn screen, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly mug.... And by the way, what is he the future of? Overrated 21 year-old pitchers?

Hey I don't know what's stuck up your ass but you might wanna show more respect to people you don't know. First of all this signature STAYS, there are no signature rules so DEAL WITH IT, second of all How the hell is C.C. Sabathia overated I'm not calling him the next Satchel Page or cy Young what he is , is a 21 year old pitcher who was supposed to be at AAA last year but made the jump to the bigs and won about 14 games for the Indians, So with A rotation of Bartola Colon 27 , Chuck Finley 39, Ryand Drese early 20's, Baez, and Sabathia its safe to say C.C. is a major component of the Indians present and FUTURE . You people never cease to amaze...

Khaos · 02-25-2002, 09:38 AM

I'm an Indians fan and I'm excited about the PROSPECT of the future of C.C., but you're over reacting.

His comment wasn't that harsh. Your signature picture is too large. It's annoying when it's in a thread 3 or more times. There are no rules on sigs, but there always seems to be someone obnoxious enough to force a rule or two to be made.

Be happy that the tribe thinks he's the future also in that they signed him to the biggest contract ever for a rookie pitcher and take what others say with a grain of salt.

JHDOhio · 02-25-2002, 09:46 AM

Well I guess I'm just obnoxious because I don't see my sig as a big deal, and another thing I didn't claim his comments were harsh but he set the TONE of his remarks by using profanity. let me ask you this would you be more likely to do something for someone if they A: said please do this for me or B: Do me a favor and do this damn thing......Think about It

JML · 02-25-2002, 09:49 AM

I was impressed by CC last season, and I think the sig is annoying. You could always size it down a little.

edit- A. ppl with a dialup connection have to wait for the pic to load over and over

B. You swore too, good sir.

C. "you people never cease to amaze..." is a downright ignorant thing to say.

[ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]

JHDOhio · 02-25-2002, 10:02 AM

#1. i changed my sig, i hope everyone sleeps better tonight
#2. i cursed in response to the "good sir" that made the first comment
#3. how is saying you people never cease to amaze so ignorant, I'd argue its just an obsevation of the people I've encountered on message boards, now what, may i ask is ignorant about that

[ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: JHDOhio ]

JML · 02-25-2002, 10:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by JHDOhio:
[QB
#3. how is syaing you people never cease to amaze so ignorant, I'd argue its just an obsevation of the people I've encountered on message board, now what, may i ask is ignorant about that[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

A. Thank you for changing your sig

B. Broad generalizations about "people" are ignorant. I will agree, though, that most of us here are amazing.

02-24-2002, 08:58 AM	#6
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	<a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/jsb/" target="_blank">Jump Shot</a> has finances. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

02-24-2002, 12:26 PM	#7
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	It all depends on what you value in a basketball game. In basketball the finances are not very important because of revenue sharing and the salary cap with that said FBB does plan on incorporating finances into the game very soon __________________ DaMn!

02-24-2002, 07:29 PM	#10
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	JDOhio, do us all a huge favor, and lose the CC Crapathia signature, because it takes up a whole damn screen, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly mug.... And by the way, what is he the future of? Overrated 21 year-old pitchers? [ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: Mike D ]</p> __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

02-24-2002, 08:41 PM	#12
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	[quote]Originally posted by Mike D: <strong>JDOhio, do us all a huge favor, and lose the CC Crapathia signature, because it takes up a whole damn screen, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly mug.... And by the way, what is he the future of? Overrated 21 year-old pitchers? [ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: Mike D ]</strong><hr></blockquote> Hey, C.C. Sabathia is a good pitcher. But I agree lose the pic. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

02-25-2002, 03:04 AM	#13
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	One year does not make a good player... Carlos Beltran.... Tuffy Rhodes....Dwight Smith... Jerome Walton.... Steve Stone.... __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

02-23-2002, 03:16 PM	#1
mgold97 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13	MARKUS will you ever make a Basketball game? I love basketball,baseball,and football. I have Season ticket baseball and would love to have a basketball game just like it.

02-23-2002, 05:29 PM	#2
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	There is already a very good basketball sim out there its called Fast break Basketball its at <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com\fbb," target="_blank">www.sportplanet.com\fbb</a> the developer is great and is constantly refining the game and communicating with the gamers [ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: JHDOhio ]</p> __________________ DaMn!

02-23-2002, 08:38 PM	#3
CubsFan02 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 17	THE biggest sig ever. __________________ TFBL-Arizona(2001 WS Runner-Up)

02-23-2002, 09:33 PM	#4
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	Heee-uuuge

02-24-2002, 08:51 AM	#5
mgold97 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13	I know fastbreak basketball it has no financial system at all. It is just simming,signing,and drafting. Their are no profits or loses just a salary cap. A game like OOT4 or STB for basketball would be awesome.

02-24-2002, 03:20 PM	#8
heavyreign Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 13	NBA finances are definately different than baseball. With the addition of the luxury tax, it is now more important how much income a team can bring in. If you follow basketball rumors, there are a number of trades that don't happen mainly because they would put one team over the luxury tax threshold. In the past, that hasn't really been the case. While in baseball it was reported that maybe five teams made a profit last season. most basketball teams make a profit.

02-24-2002, 05:33 PM	#9
bigphesta Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,366	IT was ALSO reported that Enron made a profit last year... So that's not really a good measure of who's actually making money. I find it VERY HARD to believe that ANY teams are LOOSING money in baseball. And if any are it's just a couple. but I doubt that.

02-24-2002, 07:47 PM	#11
heavyreign Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 13	Very true. When I was researching basketball, looking at the size of TV contracts and other things along average ticket prices and attendance, it just doesn't seem possible that any of the teams could be losing money. A similar review of the baseball would probably show the same. The one team I might expect to lose money based on things like attendance and TV revenue would be the Expos and they don't exactly have a large payroll. My point as far as basketball was that you didn't ever really hear that a team couldn't make a transaction due to money concerns until the luxury tax was instituted. Thus, if most teams are on a similar level as far as what they can spend, simming everything down to parking prices doesn't necessarily have much impact on the game.

02-25-2002, 03:32 AM	#14
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,217	don't include Beltran in that group yet. He now has had 2 good years and is still very young. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

02-25-2002, 09:07 AM	#15
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike D: [QB]JDOhio, do us all a huge favor, and lose the CC Crapathia signature, because it takes up a whole damn screen, and I'm tired of looking at his ugly mug.... And by the way, what is he the future of? Overrated 21 year-old pitchers? Hey I don't know what's stuck up your ass but you might wanna show more respect to people you don't know. First of all this signature STAYS, there are no signature rules so DEAL WITH IT, second of all How the hell is C.C. Sabathia overated I'm not calling him the next Satchel Page or cy Young what he is , is a 21 year old pitcher who was supposed to be at AAA last year but made the jump to the bigs and won about 14 games for the Indians, So with A rotation of Bartola Colon 27 , Chuck Finley 39, Ryand Drese early 20's, Baez, and Sabathia its safe to say C.C. is a major component of the Indians present and FUTURE . You people never cease to amaze... __________________ DaMn!

02-25-2002, 09:38 AM	#16
Khaos Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canfield, OH Posts: 473	I'm an Indians fan and I'm excited about the PROSPECT of the future of C.C., but you're over reacting. His comment wasn't that harsh. Your signature picture is too large. It's annoying when it's in a thread 3 or more times. There are no rules on sigs, but there always seems to be someone obnoxious enough to force a rule or two to be made. Be happy that the tribe thinks he's the future also in that they signed him to the biggest contract ever for a rookie pitcher and take what others say with a grain of salt. __________________ squish

02-25-2002, 09:46 AM	#17
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	Well I guess I'm just obnoxious because I don't see my sig as a big deal, and another thing I didn't claim his comments were harsh but he set the TONE of his remarks by using profanity. let me ask you this would you be more likely to do something for someone if they A: said please do this for me or B: Do me a favor and do this damn thing......Think about It __________________ DaMn!

02-25-2002, 09:49 AM	#18
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	I was impressed by CC last season, and I think the sig is annoying. You could always size it down a little. edit- A. ppl with a dialup connection have to wait for the pic to load over and over B. You swore too, good sir. C. "you people never cease to amaze..." is a downright ignorant thing to say. [ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]</p>

02-25-2002, 10:02 AM	#19
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	#1. i changed my sig, i hope everyone sleeps better tonight #2. i cursed in response to the "good sir" that made the first comment #3. how is saying you people never cease to amaze so ignorant, I'd argue its just an obsevation of the people I've encountered on message boards, now what, may i ask is ignorant about that [ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: JHDOhio ]</p> __________________ DaMn!

02-25-2002, 10:05 AM	#20
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	[quote]Originally posted by JHDOhio: [QB #3. how is syaing you people never cease to amaze so ignorant, I'd argue its just an obsevation of the people I've encountered on message board, now what, may i ask is ignorant about that[/QB]<hr></blockquote> A. Thank you for changing your sig B. Broad generalizations about "people" are ignorant. I will agree, though, that most of us here are amazing.