The European football thread - Page 525

LFC1892 · 02-22-2007, 08:10 AM

After my discussion with UK, I was wondering what team(s) have the worst fans in Europe? I know that Spain has the racists etc, but are there particular teams that are recognised as having issues?

ukhotstove · 02-22-2007, 12:35 PM

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After my discussion with UK, I was wondering what team(s) have the worst fans in Europe? I know that Spain has the racists etc, but are there particular teams that are recognised as having issues?

By all accounts worst fans at the moment not including Italian who had their league stopped are from Eastern Europe, Polish fans organised fights against German fans in the last World Cup but never heard how big they were, I get the feeling Holland is simmering and could explode but mostly it's concentrated in places like Macedonia, Slovakia, Slovenia.

England at the moment is quiet as most teams have away game season tickets which means fans have to be registered to attend away games and the last thing an hooligan want's is to be registered on a database somewhere, not being biased but if you want to read a book about hooligans that is half way near the truth you should read "Celtic Soccer Crew" most books on hooligans are glorified Hollywood type books were they win every fight and take it from me it isn't like that.

Dvd wise your probably looking at a film called The Firm as the closest you'd get on film, don't bother with Green Street it's an ok film but very Hollywood as if an American tried to run with the West Ham hooligans after being in the country only 5 minutes he'd be introduced to Mr Stanley.

ukhotstove · 02-22-2007, 12:46 PM

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I would too!

On another topic, whats with that ugly Ronaldhino? Every time an opposition player even breathes near him, he throws his hands in the air and glares at either the ref or linesman(whoevers closer). I'd love to see Vinnie Jones make a comeback and make a typical Vinnie tackle on him and then say "There you go ugly, show the ref that one".

Frustration, Barca aren't the team that people think they are, if it weren't for Larsson they would never have won last year's Champions League and are made to look good in La Liga because Madrid are pretty much in the same boat. At this moment in time I don't think there's a clear cut quality team in Europe, if not for the injuries and Abramovich making Jose buy Schevchenko then Chelsea would be miles in front of everyone else.

ukhotstove · 02-22-2007, 01:33 PM

Came to two conclusions from last nights Watford v Wigan game, Watford are total crap if they stay up it will be a miracle they were out played by Wigan who played most of the game with 10 men, secondly looks like Wigan will be playing against 12 men for the rest of the season due to Paul Jewell being honest about Dowd as last night it was never a sending off.

LFC1892 · 02-23-2007, 04:48 AM

I finally got FM 2007 today. It was $30 off at Kmart so I just bought the damn thing. I bet theres a big @ss patch I now have to dl right? Oh well, I'd like to thank FM 2006 for filling in admirably while I waited like a scrooge for the price to come down,lol.

bababui · 02-23-2007, 12:10 PM

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I finally got FM 2007 today. It was $30 off at Kmart so I just bought the damn thing. I bet theres a big @ss patch I now have to dl right? Oh well, I'd like to thank FM 2006 for filling in admirably while I waited like a scrooge for the price to come down,lol.

Because the game processes so much faster its possible to include many more leagues than before and not hurt performance. Also you can choose playable or viewable only options. If you choose to download players from a certain country it will make the game a lot easier but slow down performance; it makes the game easier by making available many more unsigned players..very helpful for lower league managers.

And the patch is very important to fix some issues with regens, injuries and cards.

ukhotstove · 02-23-2007, 01:57 PM

The thread doesn't seem to have the pull that it used to so this wont get much discussion but the Tevez and Mascherano saga drags on as this week it's reported that Liverpool paid £1,500,000 for Mascherano, isn't this the same Mascherano who was worth millions just a few months ago. Also who does the money go to and do Liverpool actually own him now.

West Ham are also reported to be taking legal actions against Terry Brown (ex Chairman) and Paul Aldridge (ex Managing Director) for their part in the deal, this surprises me as West Ham could have points taken away from them if the Mascherano/Tevez deal is found to be dodgy so aren't West Ham by taking legal action against ex board members actually admiting guilt that the deal was dodgy.

darkhorse · 02-23-2007, 04:59 PM

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The thread doesn't seem to have the pull that it used to

90% of the posts in this thread are by three people.

bababui · 02-23-2007, 05:04 PM

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The thread doesn't seem to have the pull that it used to

Thats because one of our footie fanatics has been boycotting the thread.

Sdpm100 · 02-23-2007, 05:12 PM

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Thanks dude, looked like a kind of mixed bag reaction so I'll give it a go. I didn't look past the first page though just in case they talked about the storyline.

Did you watch it?

ukhotstove · 02-23-2007, 05:28 PM

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90% of the posts in this thread are by three people.

A few of the top posted threads are like that, couple example's being

2006 Oakland A's thread 2,396 posts 1,616 of them by 3 posters
The Official Minnesota Twins season thread 1,534 posts 1,009 of them by 3 posters.

bababui · 02-23-2007, 05:30 PM

UKHS..I hope you will be rooting Leigh RMI on from the stands this weekend.

ukhotstove · 02-23-2007, 05:34 PM

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Did you watch it?

I forgot all about it lol.

ukhotstove · 02-23-2007, 05:40 PM

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UKHS..I hope you will be rooting Leigh RMI on from the stands this weekend.

Something needs to be done at Leigh or I can see them going out of business, reason being Wigan Athletic and Bolton Wanderers are lowering their ticket prices this season and next season so Leigh will charge £10 but Wigan and Bolton will only charge £15 so people will pay that little bit extra to go watch a better quality of game.

Sdpm100 · 02-23-2007, 05:41 PM

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I forgot all about it lol.

I'm the same. I'd never remember to watch all the episodes - especially as it is tucked away on ITV4. If it ever goes to DVD I might pick it up, but from the few minutes I did catch in tonight's showing it looks a bit too staged. Now I realise the football isn't the main part of the show, but it just felt "too right" if you see what I mean.

bababui · 02-23-2007, 05:45 PM

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Something needs to be done at Leigh or I can see them going out of business, reason being Wigan Athletic and Bolton Wanderers are lowering their ticket prices this season and next season so Leigh will charge £10 but Wigan and Bolton will only charge £15 so people will pay that little bit extra to go watch a better quality of game.

How can Wigan and Bolton meet their expenses with such cheap tix prices? And if Leigh could ever catch a break and develop a good player or two maybe they could recapture some of their former glory. And Bolton and Wigan could help by playing friendlies against them.

bababui · 02-23-2007, 05:46 PM

I've never seen the show but since it has survived a season it cant be that bad.

Sdpm100 · 02-23-2007, 05:48 PM

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I've never seen the show but since it has survived a season it cant be that bad.

I didn't say it was bad. It just looked a bit too staged for my liking. But as I'm not going to remember to watch it anyway, my opinion can be taken with a pinch of salt.

bababui · 02-23-2007, 05:51 PM

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I didn't say it was bad. It just looked a bit too staged for my liking. But as I'm not going to remember to watch it anyway, my opinion can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Its hard to write sports drama because its the spontaneity of it all that we love. Whats amazing and exciting watching live is staged in a dramatic context. Maybe thats why there really havent been any succesful sports dramas..as far as I know.

ukhotstove · 02-23-2007, 05:53 PM

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How can Wigan and Bolton meet their expenses with such cheap tix prices? And if Leigh could ever catch a break and develop a good player or two maybe they could recapture some of their former glory. And Bolton and Wigan could help by playing friendlies against them.

I think the lowest a premiership team gets next season even if they finish bottom will be £40 million, that's not including something like £200,000 everytime they get shown live plus using Wigan as an example they will get around £300,000 in gate reciepts per game then there's merchandise, cup runs, live cup game payments and so on so your talking about £50-60 million easily.

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02-23-2007, 01:57 PM	#10487
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	The thread doesn't seem to have the pull that it used to so this wont get much discussion but the Tevez and Mascherano saga drags on as this week it's reported that Liverpool paid £1,500,000 for Mascherano, isn't this the same Mascherano who was worth millions just a few months ago. Also who does the money go to and do Liverpool actually own him now. West Ham are also reported to be taking legal actions against Terry Brown (ex Chairman) and Paul Aldridge (ex Managing Director) for their part in the deal, this surprises me as West Ham could have points taken away from them if the Mascherano/Tevez deal is found to be dodgy so aren't West Ham by taking legal action against ex board members actually admiting guilt that the deal was dodgy. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

02-22-2007, 08:10 AM	#10481
LFC1892 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Global Posts: 963	After my discussion with UK, I was wondering what team(s) have the worst fans in Europe? I know that Spain has the racists etc, but are there particular teams that are recognised as having issues?

02-23-2007, 04:48 AM	#10485
LFC1892 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Global Posts: 963	I finally got FM 2007 today. It was $30 off at Kmart so I just bought the damn thing. I bet theres a big @ss patch I now have to dl right? Oh well, I'd like to thank FM 2006 for filling in admirably while I waited like a scrooge for the price to come down,lol.