So...OOTP2007 - Page 2

Muppetus Galacticus · 02-01-2007, 08:14 AM

Meh. Didn't get ria to post in this one.

Cooleyvol · 02-01-2007, 08:15 AM

Marc, can I get this answered?

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...64#post2031164

Muppetus Galacticus · 02-01-2007, 08:17 AM

Blimey, is there an exchange deal between boards now? http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=138030

Marc Duffy · 02-01-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

Marc, can I get this answered?

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...64#post2031164

Markus will respond on that one

ctorg · 02-01-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by silvam14

Wow!!! This is the first time I've ever seen a thread taken OUT of OT and put INTO general discussions.... am I dreaming? A new direction indeed.

Can't have those on topic posts cluttering up off topic!

Actually, it's the second time in the past week or so. MM seems fond of starting relevant OOTP-related threads in OT - which is a lot better than the other way around!

USN Squid · 02-01-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

The interface. Everything about the interface. In game, lineup screens, stat screens...everything.

I used to be the same way. Once you sit down and learn it, the new interface is 1000 times more powerful / configurable.

Markus Heinsohn · 02-01-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

Too many "added" not enough "fixed" or "improved".

Basically everything is improved... but mentioning everything would turn the changelist into a 20 pages affair

Markus Heinsohn · 02-01-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Doesn't seem enough for me...

The historical stuff and expansion looks pretty dang cool and if it works, it might be a reason to buy. But the rest doesn't seem like enough. I mean the format still sucks and the rest seems like minor updates. Oh well, maybe 2008

. I didn't buy OOTP6, so I can skip a year.

Try the demo... in the end you'll discover the game to be much improved overall and the interface to be 1000 times better than OOTP 6.5

ctorg · 02-01-2007, 09:03 AM

It seems to me that there are plenty of new additions, from expansion to facegen to better league management abilities (not that I've tried any of it yet).

I tend to view OOTP as something like a subscription service. You pay a fee once a year and you get to keep playing an amazing and ever-improving game. Markus has shown with each incarnation of OOTP that he can make great strides in relatively short time. The progress from OOTP2-4 and then 4-6 is really astounding. Last year there were birthing pains due to the new engine, but I fully expect that Markus will show the same sort of progress now that we are familiar with it.

DaMook · 02-01-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Doesn't seem enough for me...

The historical stuff and expansion looks pretty dang cool and if it works, it might be a reason to buy. But the rest doesn't seem like enough. I mean the format still sucks and the rest seems like minor updates. Oh well, maybe 2008

. I didn't buy OOTP6, so I can skip a year.

Not even sure what you mean by not enough? In my opinion 2007 is a totally different game. Far more advanced than 2006. A lot of these fixes and additions aren't "minor". I've played 2007 for a few days now and I'm already blown away and I wasn't too hot about 2006.

And what do you mean by the format still sucks?

Simmo13 · 02-01-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

It seems to me that there are plenty of new additions, from expansion to facegen to better league management abilities (not that I've tried any of it yet).

I tend to view OOTP as something like a subscription service. You pay a fee once a year and you get to keep playing an amazing and ever-improving game. Markus has shown with each incarnation of OOTP that he can make great strides in relatively short time. The progress from OOTP2-4 and then 4-6 is really astounding. Last year there were birthing pains due to the new engine, but I fully expect that Markus will show the same sort of progress now that we are familiar with it.

I agree totally.

swampdragon · 02-01-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Prodigal Son

I get the idea that '07 worked more on fixing and improving and less on adding, which is 100% fine with me. I didn't buy '06 because I feared it was bigger on the adding than on the fixing and improving, and it sounds like I made a good decision. I'll be snatching up '07 right away, though. I honestly wouldn't mind if future versions of OOTP7 each added very little in the way of new features but focused on improving the existing game.

Right. It's not like OOTP2006 didn't have features. They just didn't work quite the way we wanted them to. You certainly need to fix the huge, promising game that's already there before moving forward with more stuff. Just being able to add and delete leagues is a huge step forward for me.

Muppetus Galacticus · 02-01-2007, 09:54 AM

We have watched OOTP from birth and it grew into a very good young game, learning every year and taking in what the outside world expected. Then it hit it's teenage years with OOTP2006, as was evident with it's sulking, bad skin and grumpy behavior. But now I predict our little game is all grown up and off to college, and she's gonna **** our brains out!

PotatoPeeler · 02-01-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

We have watched OOTP from birth and it grew into a very good young game, learning every year and taking in what the outside world expected. Then it hit it's teenage years with OOTP2006, as was evident with it's sulking, bad skin and grumpy behavior. But now I predict our little game is all grown up and off to college, and she's gonna **** our brains out!

So what you're saying is that OOTP2007 will be down with teh incest?

zukes · 02-01-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

But now I predict our little game is all grown up and off to college, and she's gonna **** our brains out!

If I wasn't already buying it, I will be now!!!!!!!!!!! If you can make a computer game do that, compter geeks everywhere will rejoice.

LOL. Good analogy.

Jason · 02-01-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

she's gonna **** our brains out!

Unless it's a Christian university. (Just sayin'....)

I agree with your sentiment. The downside is that a lot of guys are going to be skeptical (hopefully the openly hostile will wait until the game is out to start their rantings.) The skepticism is well deserved and I know a lot of beta guys went into testing with skepticism as well.

Let's put it this way...I beta tested OOTP 2006 and I loudly advocated for my online league to stay with 6.5. I'm going to be just as loud saying we'll need 2007 because the improvements are THAT good.

However, if I hadn't seen it, I'd be waiting and watching too.

Marc Duffy · 02-01-2007, 10:52 AM

I expect many to wait and see and I support this view for those who have that bitter taste.

My feelings were posted here : http://www.ootpbaseball.net/clubhous...gid=26&id=1269

sporr · 02-01-2007, 11:55 AM

I posted this elsewhere, but I'll say it again here:

With all of the tweaking that's been done, statistics actually make sense. No longer will you have a player trim 60 Ks off his season average only to see his batting average and other stats remain the same. Pains have been taken to make sure ratings actually correlate to each other realistically. Also, aging has improved so that the aging curves are a very close match to real life data. If OOTP2007 doesn't interest you for any other reason, it should because it is probably the most realistic baseball simulation ever.

darkenigma510 · 02-01-2007, 12:03 PM

Here are my predictions:

1) Many people will love the game.

2) There will be some who who openly dislike the game without ever having purchased it or played it.

3) There will be some who dislike the game but offer constructive, well thought-out criticisms.

4) There will be some who won't like the game and won't offer anything close to constructive criticism, or may only complain about the game on another board where the criticisms do no good.

5) There will be numerous "Thank you Markus!" and "I love this game" threads.

6) There will be numerous "disappointed!!1!" and "how can I get my money back threads"

7) There will be plenty of new aliai on the board, some funny, most annoying.

8) I'll be sitting back and enjoying OOTP2007 for another year.

silvam14 · 02-01-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by darkenigma510

Here are my predictions:

1) Many people will love the game.

2) There will be some who who openly dislike the game without ever having purchased it or played it.

3) There will be some who dislike the game but offer constructive, well thought-out criticisms.

4) There will be some who won't like the game and won't offer anything close to constructive criticism, or may only complain about the game on another board where the criticisms do no good.

5) There will be numerous "Thank you Markus!" and "I love this game" threads.

6) There will be numerous "disappointed!!1!" and "how can I get my money back threads"

7) There will be plenty of new aliai on the board, some funny, most annoying.

8) I'll be sitting back and enjoying OOTP2007 for another year.

I'm wichoo on this!

02-01-2007, 09:03 AM	#29
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	It seems to me that there are plenty of new additions, from expansion to facegen to better league management abilities (not that I've tried any of it yet). I tend to view OOTP as something like a subscription service. You pay a fee once a year and you get to keep playing an amazing and ever-improving game. Markus has shown with each incarnation of OOTP that he can make great strides in relatively short time. The progress from OOTP2-4 and then 4-6 is really astounding. Last year there were birthing pains due to the new engine, but I fully expect that Markus will show the same sort of progress now that we are familiar with it. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

02-01-2007, 08:15 AM	#22
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Marc, can I get this answered? http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...64#post2031164

02-01-2007, 10:52 AM	#37
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	I expect many to wait and see and I support this view for those who have that bitter taste. My feelings were posted here : http://www.ootpbaseball.net/clubhous...gid=26&id=1269

02-01-2007, 11:55 AM	#38
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	I posted this elsewhere, but I'll say it again here: With all of the tweaking that's been done, statistics actually make sense. No longer will you have a player trim 60 Ks off his season average only to see his batting average and other stats remain the same. Pains have been taken to make sure ratings actually correlate to each other realistically. Also, aging has improved so that the aging curves are a very close match to real life data. If OOTP2007 doesn't interest you for any other reason, it should because it is probably the most realistic baseball simulation ever.

02-01-2007, 12:03 PM	#39
darkenigma510 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Wild West Posts: 1,353	Here are my predictions: 1) Many people will love the game. 2) There will be some who who openly dislike the game without ever having purchased it or played it. 3) There will be some who dislike the game but offer constructive, well thought-out criticisms. 4) There will be some who won't like the game and won't offer anything close to constructive criticism, or may only complain about the game on another board where the criticisms do no good. 5) There will be numerous "Thank you Markus!" and "I love this game" threads. 6) There will be numerous "disappointed!!1!" and "how can I get my money back threads" 7) There will be plenty of new aliai on the board, some funny, most annoying. 8) I'll be sitting back and enjoying OOTP2007 for another year.