The European football thread - Page 514

Sdpm100 · 01-31-2007, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

I dont think he is saying that...its not like because he disagrees with you on one point that he totally discounts and disagrees with everything you say.

No, I don't know anything about it, and he's sussed it out. That's fine. He knows more than me about football, that's just the way of the world.

When Cleveland, St. Louis, Philadelphia, San Diego, Atlanta, Milwaukee, et. al. all build stadiums he'll be proved right, won't he?

bababui · 01-31-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

No, I don't know anything about it, and he's sussed it out. That's fine. He knows more than me about football, that's just the way of the world.

When Cleveland, St. Louis, Philadelphia, San Diego, Atlanta, Milwaukee, et. al. all build stadiums he'll be proved right, won't he?

IMO. he had a minor disagreement with one of your points.

ukhotstove · 01-31-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

Should have gone to Specsavers

lmao

Sdpm100 · 01-31-2007, 03:29 AM

So what's on Saturday 17th March then?

ukhotstove · 01-31-2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

So what's on Saturday 17th March then?

Not looked it up personally so maybe wrong lol but according to the radio the other day if Celtic win every game until they play think it's Falkirk and beat them then they win the SPL.

ukhotstove · 01-31-2007, 04:01 AM

Wonder if he had being going to Watford or Charlton or Wigan if they'd come up with the same ruling hmmm me thinks not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6316199.stm

Muppetus Galacticus · 01-31-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I don't know why I'm bothering to write this, as you don't want to discuss it, but for everyone else.
Just imagine if that takes 15-20 seconds to find out, the other team could have gone down the other end and scored themselves.
Just imagine the riot you would have on your hands if you chalk out that goal to award a goal at the other end.

And even if that didn't happen, it would look ****ing stupid to stop the game mid-flow to award a "goal" for an incident that occurred 15-20 seconds ago. IMO, it would be more trouble than it's worth.

But hey, again, what do I know? It'll come in any way, irrespective of what I say. And most "real fans" seem to want it.

You know what, they actually do this in the NHL and people get a real kick out of it. History is being changed in front of your eyes. They look at the "goal" on video (in the building and in Toronto) while the game continues if the ref made a No Goal signal (or no call at all) and then make the chief referee aware of what happened at the next stoppage. If it was a goal, then everything that happened before it counts for nothing, the clock goes back to when the goal was scored and it's game on.

Would this work in football? No, apples and oranges. My view is, if the referee isn't sure about something then he stop the game there and then and go talk to his assistant(s), and then if that doesn't help, ask the video judges. The refs will still sometimes think they are completely right in saying goal/no goal even though he was looking through a crowd of players, and won't go ask ANYONE about it.

Muppetus Galacticus · 01-31-2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Wonder if he had being going to Watford or Charlton or Wigan if they'd come up with the same ruling hmmm me thinks not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6316199.stm

Rules are made to be broken in football

Sdpm100 · 01-31-2007, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

You know what, they actually do this in the NHL and people get a real kick out of it. History is being changed in front of your eyes. They look at the "goal" on video (in the building and in Toronto) while the game continues if the ref made a No Goal signal (or no call at all) and then make the chief referee aware of what happened at the next stoppage. If it was a goal, then everything that happened before it counts for nothing, the clock goes back to when the goal was scored and it's game on.

Would this work in football? No, apples and oranges. My view is, if the referee isn't sure about something then he stop the game there and then and go talk to his assistant(s), and then if that doesn't help, ask the video judges. The refs will still sometimes think they are completely right in saying goal/no goal even though he was looking through a crowd of players, and won't go ask ANYONE about it.

I didn't know that. I thought they stopped play to look at the video.

I guess that ends my resistance to video replays in football as well. You've solved the problems I had with it.

Muppetus Galacticus · 01-31-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I didn't know that. I thought they stopped play to look at the video.

I guess that ends my resistance to video replays in football as well. You've solved the problems I had with it.

Victory is mine!

Regarding the NHL, a lot of times the referee will make a call one way or the other and go straight to replay to find out. If there is no conclusive proof available then the calling on the ice stands.

I can't say this will make football better and more enjoyable to the fans, but I believe it will be a good thing in the end. Only time will tell though!

ukhotstove · 01-31-2007, 11:59 AM

Big blow for Liverpool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6318091.stm

darkhorse · 01-31-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Big blow for Liverpool.

Nah, I'm sure Liverpool fans are over Robbie Fowler's departure by now.

ukhotstove · 01-31-2007, 12:06 PM

4th in the league and you lose 2 games in a row, some teams would cut their right arm off to be 4th in the league but expectations are different at the bigger clubs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6317525.stm

ukhotstove · 01-31-2007, 12:14 PM

This story really pishes me off, what's the point of rules if they change them for the big teams. This is the second time in a few years that they've bent the rules for Liverpool but highly doubtfull they'd have done it for the lesser teams.

The rule states that a player cannot play for more than two different clubs between 1st July and 30th June the following year, so this bs about the South American and European season's overlap is just crap talk for we bend the rules for the big boys.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6316199.stm

theasfl · 01-31-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I don't know why I'm bothering to write this, as you don't want to discuss it, but for everyone else.
Just imagine if that takes 15-20 seconds to find out, the other team could have gone down the other end and scored themselves.
Just imagine the riot you would have on your hands if you chalk out that goal to award a goal at the other end.

And even if that didn't happen, it would look ****ing stupid to stop the game mid-flow to award a "goal" for an incident that occurred 15-20 seconds ago. IMO, it would be more trouble than it's worth.

But hey, again, what do I know? It'll come in any way, irrespective of what I say. And most "real fans" seem to want it.

Ive seen it happen in hockey a few times, its part of the game the way its set up. Im not pro or con, Im simply stating a way it could be done.

theasfl · 01-31-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

You can have a part-time and a full-time job.
Non-league football players have a full-time job during the week, and play football part-time at the weekend/midweek evenings.
IMO that is the same as NFL officials. You sound like Malleus Dei did when I had the dictionary on my side with a word. You seem to discount my explanation out of hand to suit your means.

I was defending bababui's means of thought, theres no need to call me MD.

theasfl · 01-31-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

You know what, they actually do this in the NHL and people get a real kick out of it. History is being changed in front of your eyes. They look at the "goal" on video (in the building and in Toronto) while the game continues if the ref made a No Goal signal (or no call at all) and then make the chief referee aware of what happened at the next stoppage. If it was a goal, then everything that happened before it counts for nothing, the clock goes back to when the goal was scored and it's game on.

apparently I was beat to it

Sdpm100 · 01-31-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

I was defending bababui's means of thought, theres no need to call me MD.

Please re-read it, I didn't say that. I said your arguing over this reminds me of that previous incident.

It must be that in America you use a different dictionary to the rest of us. It's my error to contribute to the definition of the term when I live in a different country.

Hageneezz · 01-31-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I don't know why I'm bothering to write this, as you don't want to discuss it, but for everyone else.
Just imagine if that takes 15-20 seconds to find out, the other team could have gone down the other end and scored themselves.
Just imagine the riot you would have on your hands if you chalk out that goal to award a goal at the other end.

And even if that didn't happen, it would look ****ing stupid to stop the game mid-flow to award a "goal" for an incident that occurred 15-20 seconds ago. IMO, it would be more trouble than it's worth.

But hey, again, what do I know? It'll come in any way, irrespective of what I say. And most "real fans" seem to want it.

Well put

Caporegime · 01-31-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

I was defending bababui's means of thought, theres no need to call me MD.

LMAO!! Of all the names he could have called you, of all the genuinely monstrous people who have walked the earth that he could have compared you with, the one that truly cut like a knife was an MD comparison. This is too funny!

Come back to the boards, Mal, if for no other reason than to continue setting the standard by which other people are deeply offended.

01-31-2007, 04:01 AM	#10266
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Wonder if he had being going to Watford or Charlton or Wigan if they'd come up with the same ruling hmmm me thinks not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6316199.stm __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

01-31-2007, 11:59 AM	#10271
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Big blow for Liverpool. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6318091.stm __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

01-31-2007, 12:06 PM	#10273
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	4th in the league and you lose 2 games in a row, some teams would cut their right arm off to be 4th in the league but expectations are different at the bigger clubs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6317525.stm __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

01-31-2007, 12:14 PM	#10274
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	This story really pishes me off, what's the point of rules if they change them for the big teams. This is the second time in a few years that they've bent the rules for Liverpool but highly doubtfull they'd have done it for the lesser teams. The rule states that a player cannot play for more than two different clubs between 1st July and 30th June the following year, so this bs about the South American and European season's overlap is just crap talk for we bend the rules for the big boys. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/6316199.stm __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

01-31-2007, 03:29 AM	#10264
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,644	So what's on Saturday 17th March then?