The European football thread - Page 452

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

I hate the fact that the World Club Championship doesn't get the same publicity as the World Cup. It's the frekkin World Championship, the bext clubs in the world!

Reason why Rads it's played in the same country every time, it's played in Japan because of money reasons. It's played at the most important part of most European seasons so teams will hardly bust a gut from Europe, yeah they'll field full teams but that's because their made to but they'll only be playing about 70% of their potential. Anybody who thinks it's a true World Club Championship when you have Al Ahly and Auckland City in it must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I'm betting out of the 6 teams in it this year 4 at least wouldn't even make the top 100 teams in world football.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:03 AM

A blistering shot by Deco into the upper right half of the goal and a brilliant save!!

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Euros and soccer are like Americans and basketball...snobs. They cant get their mind around the fact that there are quality teams everywhere now.

So Al Ahly and Auckland City are quality teams ?

Sdpm100 · 12-17-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Reason why Rads it's played in the same country every time, it's played in Japan because of money reasons. It's played at the most important part of most European seasons so teams will hardly bust a gut from Europe, yeah they'll field full teams but that's because their made to but they'll only be playing about 70% of their potential. Anybody who thinks it's a true World Club Championship when you have Al Ahly and Auckland City in it must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I'm betting out of the 6 teams in it this year 4 at least wouldn't even make the top 100 teams in world football.

The original plan was to have a 16-team tournament every two years, but the big UEFA clubs shot that idea down before it got too far down the track.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Reason why Rads it's played in the same country every time, it's played in Japan because of money reasons. It's played at the most important part of most European seasons so teams will hardly bust a gut from Europe, yeah they'll field full teams but that's because their made to but they'll only be playing about 70% of their potential. Anybody who thinks it's a true World Club Championship when you have Al Ahly and Auckland City in it must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I'm betting out of the 6 teams in it this year 4 at least wouldn't even make the top 100 teams in world football.

You would be wrong too. Barca have their full squad on the pitch..and they are losing with 5 minutes to go.

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

You would be wrong too. Barca have their full squad on the pitch..and they are losing with 5 minutes to go.

Please read what I said, I said European teams would have their full teams out and would play about 70% of what their capable of.

Raderick · 12-17-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

You would be wrong too. Barca have their full squad on the pitch..and they are losing with 5 minutes to go.

Didn't Liverpool lose to Sao Paulo in last year's final?

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Please read what I said, I said European teams would have their full teams out and would play about 70% of what their capable of.

And I said you would be wrong.

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:10 AM

Ronaldinho summed this tournament up the other day when he said he had to get the Barcelona players fired up for it because they didn't take it serious, enough said.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:11 AM

DOLA

Barca are playing at a fever pitch like it was an elimination match in the Champions league (Another bogus competition, by the way).

Just as Greece humiliated the USA in basketball this year, a new arrangement is taking place in football.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Ronaldinho summed this tournament up the other day when he said he had to get the Barcelona players fired up for it because they didn't take it serious, enough said.

Internaconal is a better team..and Ronaldinho isnt European either.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:13 AM

Barca loses..using their best players and playing a good game.

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

DOLA

Barca are playing at a fever pitch like it was an elimination match in the Champions league (Another bogus competition, by the way).

Just as Greece humiliated the USA in basketball this year, a new arrangement is taking place in football.

lmfao South American teams having been beating European teams for more years than I've been alive in this competition nothing has changed or is going to change.

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Internaconal is a better team..and Ronaldinho isnt European either.

You lost me on the Ronaldinho part you honestly did, so what your saying is with the first part that Internacional could walk into any European league and win it lol.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

lmfao South American teams having been beating European teams for more years than I've been alive in this competition nothing has changed or is going to change.

OK then..why be against opening up qualification to the World Cup then so that its formatted as a play-in?

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

You lost me on the Ronaldinho part you honestly did, so what your saying is with the first part that Internacional could walk into any European league and win it lol.

And why not? Which country has the most World Cups? Which country has the best players? If you dont think the top Brazilian clubs could compete in any Euro league you might well be fooling yourself.

Sdpm100 · 12-17-2006, 08:21 AM

I like the format of the cancelled 2001 Club World Championship.
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/fifa-wcc01.html

Twelve teams every two years:
2 x UEFA Champions League winners
2 x Copa Libertadores winners
2 x AFC Champions League winners
2 x CONCACAF Champions Cup winners
2 x CAF Champions League winners
1 x OFC Champions Cup winner (playoff between two winners)
previous CWC champion

It will never happen, but it looks better.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:24 AM

Dont mean to antagonize you UKHS..hope you dont take it the wrong way...its like we are in a ub arguing football..nothing personal.

bababui · 12-17-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I like the format of the cancelled 2001 Club World Championship.
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/fifa-wcc01.html

Twelve teams every two years:
2 x UEFA Champions League winners
2 x Copa Libertadores winners
2 x AFC Champions League winners
2 x CONCACAF Champions Cup winners
2 x CAF Champions League winners
1 x OFC Champions Cup winner (playoff between two winners)
previous CWC champion

It will never happen, but it looks better.

I agree..the year the LA Galaxy qualified..the competition was cancelled,

ukhotstove · 12-17-2006, 08:25 AM

Ok Barca just lost you ask yourself this if you were a Barca player, do we bust a gut on a Sunday playing in a tournament that 75% of the footballing world couldn't give a damn about, or do we save our energy to travel back to Spain where on Thursday we play the 6th best team in Spain this season in Ath Madrid at home when we are only 2 points in front of Sevilla in the league, in fact Sevilla by the time we play our game will more than likely be a point in front of us.

12-17-2006, 08:10 AM	#9029
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Ronaldinho summed this tournament up the other day when he said he had to get the Barcelona players fired up for it because they didn't take it serious, enough said.

12-17-2006, 08:21 AM	#9037
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,644	I like the format of the cancelled 2001 Club World Championship. http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/fifa-wcc01.html Twelve teams every two years: 2 x UEFA Champions League winners 2 x Copa Libertadores winners 2 x AFC Champions League winners 2 x CONCACAF Champions Cup winners 2 x CAF Champions League winners 1 x OFC Champions Cup winner (playoff between two winners) previous CWC champion It will never happen, but it looks better.

12-17-2006, 08:25 AM	#9040
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Ok Barca just lost you ask yourself this if you were a Barca player, do we bust a gut on a Sunday playing in a tournament that 75% of the footballing world couldn't give a damn about, or do we save our energy to travel back to Spain where on Thursday we play the 6th best team in Spain this season in Ath Madrid at home when we are only 2 points in front of Sevilla in the league, in fact Sevilla by the time we play our game will more than likely be a point in front of us.