2006-2007 Astros Off-Season Thread - Page 4

QuestGAV · 12-08-2006, 07:55 PM

I think the Astros are more or less screwed with Pettitte gone. I think Clemens is probably gone as well and Lee isn't enough to rescue that offense from itself.

Astros33Resurrected · 12-14-2006, 10:28 PM

so after the deal for Jennings, whats the rotation going to be?

Oswalt, Jennings, Williams, Nieve/Rodriguez/whoever else. I dont like this rotation at all.

nate7891 · 12-14-2006, 11:42 PM

I think it will be Oswalt,Jennings, Williams, Rodriguez (which i think is a terrible decision but since hes a lefty Garner will have him in there) then Albers/Sampson. I honestly think Clemens will head back to Boston.

1998 Yankees · 12-14-2006, 11:52 PM

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Pettite decided he will pitch next year...but with who???

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I hope he stays in Houston. I would like at least one out of he and the Rocket to stay.

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He signed with the Yankees..

What was that you said on "our" thread about the Yankees and 35+ players, Astros33? Pettite is 35+. Clemens, is he eligible for AARP yet?

Other Astros fans: Sorry, I know I'm not wanted here. I'm leaving now.

Astros33Resurrected · 12-15-2006, 01:20 AM

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What was that you said on "our" thread about the Yankees and 35+ players, Astros33? Pettite is 35+. Clemens, is he eligible for AARP yet?

Other Astros fans: Sorry, I know I'm not wanted here. I'm leaving now.

The Rocket is a god. He doesnt count.

I could see Albers in the rotation but probally not Sampson. He hasn't impressed me much.

nate7891 · 12-15-2006, 01:31 AM

Sampson hasent impressed you? His first start in the majors leagues he went 7 innings of shutout ball against the cubbies. This was his first stint in the majors and he went 2-1 with a 2.12 ERA. True that hes only had 34 innings of major league ball under his belt, but either way, he impressed me. He impressed me more than Hirsh did and more than Buchholz and more than Albers. I got the feeling that Albers wasent ready to start last season. Maybe it will be different this season. I think Sampson and Albers battle it out for the 5th spot with the loser going to the pen. I would put Nieve into the rotation somewhere but hes being groomed to take over Lidges spot in the closer role. Or Wheelers spot in the 8th inning with Wheeler taking Lidges spot. Either way, I think the first good deal that comes along for Lidge hes gone.

APujols5 · 12-15-2006, 01:34 AM

Any 'Stros fans know why Bags is hanging them up? was he that attached to Houston? seems to me like he could have DH'ed in the AL? I know when he was PH'ing in the playoffs a couple years ago his swing still looked good.

nate7891 · 12-15-2006, 01:38 AM

His arthitic (sp?) shoulder wont allow him to extend his arms far enough to swing the bat. And he cant throw a ball more than 2 feet. Bags and the 'Stros have a personal services contract that should start up after he announces his retirement friday.

Astros33Resurrected · 12-15-2006, 01:39 AM

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Sampson hasent impressed you? His first start in the majors leagues he went 7 innings of shutout ball against the cubbies. This was his first stint in the majors and he went 2-1 with a 2.12 ERA. True that hes only had 34 innings of major league ball under his belt, but either way, he impressed me. He impressed me more than Hirsh did and more than Buchholz and more than Albers. I got the feeling that Albers wasent ready to start last season. Maybe it will be different this season. I think Sampson and Albers battle it out for the 5th spot with the loser going to the pen. I would put Nieve into the rotation somewhere but hes being groomed to take over Lidges spot in the closer role. Or Wheelers spot in the 8th inning with Wheeler taking Lidges spot. Either way, I think the first good deal that comes along for Lidge hes gone.

Sampson did good early, but so did Scott Elarton, Carlos Hernandez, Chris Holt....should I go on

APujols5 · 12-15-2006, 01:40 AM

So it's gotten worse since he last played then? because in the playoffs against the cards he looked solid swinging.

nate7891 · 12-15-2006, 01:40 AM

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Sampson did good early, but so did Scott Elarton, Carlos Hernandez, Chris Holt....should I go on

Dont get me start on Carlos Hernandez, that dude had some nasty stuff...too bad he doesnt know how to slide.

And yes, Bagwells shoulder has gotten worse.

Astros33Resurrected · 12-15-2006, 01:41 AM

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Dont get me start on Carlos Hernandez, that dude had some nasty stuff...

True he did. So sad about the injuries. I've just learned not to get excited about young stros pitchers.

APujols5 · 12-15-2006, 01:42 AM

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And yes, Bagwells shoulder has gotten worse.

That's a shame, because I bet some AL team could have lived without the ability to ever play him in the field ala Travis Hafner, in 05

Astros33Resurrected · 12-15-2006, 01:42 AM

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Dont get me start on Carlos Hernandez, that dude had some nasty stuff...too bad he doesnt know how to slide.

And yes, Bagwells shoulder has gotten worse.

Bags used to be the best at taking a throw at first to get the force then gunning a guy out that was trying to go from second to third. He was also great at fielding bunts and firing to third. I miss those days.

nate7891 · 12-15-2006, 01:43 AM

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True he did. So sad about the injuries. I've just learned not to get excited about young stros pitchers.

I was excited to see Buchholz. He was supposed to be the next coming of Roy Oswalt. Im still excited to see him. I think he can do big things.... for the rockies.

Astros33Resurrected · 12-15-2006, 01:44 AM

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I was excited to see Buchholz. He was supposed to be the next coming of Roy Oswalt. Im still excited to see him. I think he can do big things.... for the rockies.

I hope he does. I have a few of his autographs, maybe they will be worth something one day

Terpripken · 12-15-2006, 06:15 PM

I guess Bagwell officially retired today.

What a player. What a career.

12-14-2006, 11:42 PM	#63
nate7891 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 553	I think it will be Oswalt,Jennings, Williams, Rodriguez (which i think is a terrible decision but since hes a lefty Garner will have him in there) then Albers/Sampson. I honestly think Clemens will head back to Boston. __________________ Keeping idiots in suspense. "If they blew up Wrigley tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me at all. That ivy is nasty, the infield grass is waist high, and they definitely have the most vulgar fans." -- Houston Astros outfielder Lance Berkman. Easiest job in Sports: Third Base Coach Job Requirements: Depth perception, and ability to do “the windmill”. Last edited by nate7891; 12-14-2006 at 11:49 PM.

12-15-2006, 01:31 AM	#66
nate7891 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 553	Sampson hasent impressed you? His first start in the majors leagues he went 7 innings of shutout ball against the cubbies. This was his first stint in the majors and he went 2-1 with a 2.12 ERA. True that hes only had 34 innings of major league ball under his belt, but either way, he impressed me. He impressed me more than Hirsh did and more than Buchholz and more than Albers. I got the feeling that Albers wasent ready to start last season. Maybe it will be different this season. I think Sampson and Albers battle it out for the 5th spot with the loser going to the pen. I would put Nieve into the rotation somewhere but hes being groomed to take over Lidges spot in the closer role. Or Wheelers spot in the 8th inning with Wheeler taking Lidges spot. Either way, I think the first good deal that comes along for Lidge hes gone. __________________ Keeping idiots in suspense. "If they blew up Wrigley tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me at all. That ivy is nasty, the infield grass is waist high, and they definitely have the most vulgar fans." -- Houston Astros outfielder Lance Berkman. Easiest job in Sports: Third Base Coach Job Requirements: Depth perception, and ability to do “the windmill”.

12-15-2006, 01:38 AM	#68
nate7891 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 553	His arthitic (sp?) shoulder wont allow him to extend his arms far enough to swing the bat. And he cant throw a ball more than 2 feet. Bags and the 'Stros have a personal services contract that should start up after he announces his retirement friday. __________________ Keeping idiots in suspense. "If they blew up Wrigley tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me at all. That ivy is nasty, the infield grass is waist high, and they definitely have the most vulgar fans." -- Houston Astros outfielder Lance Berkman. Easiest job in Sports: Third Base Coach Job Requirements: Depth perception, and ability to do “the windmill”. Last edited by nate7891; 12-15-2006 at 01:39 AM.

12-08-2006, 07:55 PM	#61
QuestGAV Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,008	I think the Astros are more or less screwed with Pettitte gone. I think Clemens is probably gone as well and Lee isn't enough to rescue that offense from itself.

12-14-2006, 10:28 PM	#62
Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	so after the deal for Jennings, whats the rotation going to be? Oswalt, Jennings, Williams, Nieve/Rodriguez/whoever else. I dont like this rotation at all.

12-15-2006, 01:34 AM	#67
APujols5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CP Indiana Posts: 1,667 Infractions: 1/3 (3)	Any 'Stros fans know why Bags is hanging them up? was he that attached to Houston? seems to me like he could have DH'ed in the AL? I know when he was PH'ing in the playoffs a couple years ago his swing still looked good.

12-15-2006, 01:40 AM	#70
APujols5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CP Indiana Posts: 1,667 Infractions: 1/3 (3)	So it's gotten worse since he last played then? because in the playoffs against the cards he looked solid swinging.

12-15-2006, 06:15 PM	#77
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	I guess Bagwell officially retired today. What a player. What a career.