Team Philosophy

ErikSean · 01-24-2002, 09:06 PM

a cool idea for the next OOTP is a way to imput a team philosophy for your team. say i want to preach patience throughout my minor and major league system or i like aggressive hitters who dont strike out so i can hit and run more. just a thought.

King of Diamonds · 01-25-2002, 03:03 AM

Team philosophy would be a sweet idea especially if you could set it for the computer (ie other)teams. You could have the Dodgers focus be pitching for example. Drafts and FA signings could be based on this philosophy. Nice idea.

dsblcommish · 01-25-2002, 03:26 AM

I agree, this would be a very nice addition...

Scott Vibert · 01-25-2002, 03:32 AM

I like it:

You could have focus on pitching, focus on hitting, win now!, rebuild, focus on youth, focus on cost, as philosiphies for the teams and the scouts/AI would focus on these priorities for their team.

One thing I think is that these should be somewhat dynamic, for example a team that is really close to winning would switch to a Win Now! philosiphy, a team that is losing money would swith to the cheap (focus on cost) philosiphy, a team that's not in the penant race and has an average age around 33 would focus on a youthful philosiphy, and the other teams would focus on hitters/pitchers depending on how their hitting and pitching stacks up.

Good idea!

DarkLight · 01-25-2002, 04:58 AM

You would also have to have a "Not a Clue" philosophy to cover teams like the Cubs.

DaCubFan · 01-25-2002, 05:02 AM

I heard that!

Hammer755 · 01-25-2002, 05:02 AM

[quote]Originally posted by ErikSean:
a cool idea for the next OOTP is a way to imput a team philosophy for your team. say i want to preach patience throughout my minor and major league system or i like aggressive hitters who dont strike out so i can hit and run more. just a thought.<hr></blockquote>

I think this is how the game is played right now. If you want a patient team, you acquire or sign or draft players with high BB & BA talent/ratings. If you want aggressive hitters who don't strike out, you go out and get players who have good Speed and Avoid K talent/ratings. I'm just not sure what a "team philosophy" category would do for you when you already can shape and mold your team to look however you want.

Edit: After re-reading the thread, I agree with KoD that this would be a useful category to be able to assign to computer-operated teams. But, as Scott pointed out, this would have to be an ever-changing quality because of the dynamics of a baseball league.

[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Hammer755 ]

JWay · 01-25-2002, 06:32 AM

I like scotts idea. It would put more reason behind trades.

ErikSean · 01-25-2002, 11:45 AM

Hammer, i see what what you mean with the major league level but what about the minor leaguers? maybe i would want to develop my players a certain way. maybe i would like my minor leaguers to take more pitches. my players would come up to the majors with a better understanding of the strike zone. and maybe a drawback to that would be pure hitter type prospects wouldnt reach their potential. imagine if nomar or vlad took 120 walks a year, it would probably inhibit them and they wouldnt be as good at hitting.

hellfrozeover · 01-25-2002, 02:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by DarkLight:
You would also have to have a "Not a Clue" philosophy to cover teams like the Cubs.

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Hey.....but there should be a setting in team loyalty of "Cubs fan" sell out most games even without going to the WS in over 50 years.

By the way, Scott, I love all those ideas, I hope we can get something like that in v4, or at least sometime in the future of OOTP.

Hoiles · 01-26-2002, 05:34 AM

I think this is a very good idea, too. Though as someone pointed out, the team philosophy would have to change from time to time. In addition, how about changing the computer teams' managerial tendencies (and managers) change as time progresses as well. The 2001 Phillies had a bunch of speedsters, so they tended to have more agressive baserunners, but this might not be true in five years, so you can have the managerial tendencies reflect that.

01-24-2002, 09:06 PM	#1
ErikSean Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4	Team Philosophy a cool idea for the next OOTP is a way to imput a team philosophy for your team. say i want to preach patience throughout my minor and major league system or i like aggressive hitters who dont strike out so i can hit and run more. just a thought.

01-25-2002, 03:26 AM	#3
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	I agree, this would be a very nice addition... __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-25-2002, 05:02 AM	#6
DaCubFan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 232	I heard that! __________________ Baseball... It's the only game!!

01-25-2002, 05:02 AM	#7
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	[quote]Originally posted by ErikSean: <strong>a cool idea for the next OOTP is a way to imput a team philosophy for your team. say i want to preach patience throughout my minor and major league system or i like aggressive hitters who dont strike out so i can hit and run more. just a thought.</strong><hr></blockquote> I think this is how the game is played right now. If you want a patient team, you acquire or sign or draft players with high BB & BA talent/ratings. If you want aggressive hitters who don't strike out, you go out and get players who have good Speed and Avoid K talent/ratings. I'm just not sure what a "team philosophy" category would do for you when you already can shape and mold your team to look however you want. Edit: After re-reading the thread, I agree with KoD that this would be a useful category to be able to assign to computer-operated teams. But, as Scott pointed out, this would have to be an ever-changing quality because of the dynamics of a baseball league. [ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Hammer755 ]</p>

01-25-2002, 02:06 PM	#10
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	[quote]Originally posted by DarkLight: <strong>You would also have to have a "Not a Clue" philosophy to cover teams like the Cubs. </strong><hr></blockquote> Hey.....but there should be a setting in team loyalty of "Cubs fan" sell out most games even without going to the WS in over 50 years. By the way, Scott, I love all those ideas, I hope we can get something like that in v4, or at least sometime in the future of OOTP. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

01-25-2002, 03:03 AM	#2
King of Diamonds Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 64	Team philosophy would be a sweet idea especially if you could set it for the computer (ie other)teams. You could have the Dodgers focus be pitching for example. Drafts and FA signings could be based on this philosophy. Nice idea.

01-25-2002, 03:32 AM	#4
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,259	I like it: You could have focus on pitching, focus on hitting, win now!, rebuild, focus on youth, focus on cost, as philosiphies for the teams and the scouts/AI would focus on these priorities for their team. One thing I think is that these should be somewhat dynamic, for example a team that is really close to winning would switch to a Win Now! philosiphy, a team that is losing money would swith to the cheap (focus on cost) philosiphy, a team that's not in the penant race and has an average age around 33 would focus on a youthful philosiphy, and the other teams would focus on hitters/pitchers depending on how their hitting and pitching stacks up. Good idea!

01-25-2002, 04:58 AM	#5
DarkLight Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St Louis Posts: 64	You would also have to have a "Not a Clue" philosophy to cover teams like the Cubs.

01-25-2002, 06:32 AM	#8
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,031	I like scotts idea. It would put more reason behind trades.

01-25-2002, 11:45 AM	#9
ErikSean Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4	Hammer, i see what what you mean with the major league level but what about the minor leaguers? maybe i would want to develop my players a certain way. maybe i would like my minor leaguers to take more pitches. my players would come up to the majors with a better understanding of the strike zone. and maybe a drawback to that would be pure hitter type prospects wouldnt reach their potential. imagine if nomar or vlad took 120 walks a year, it would probably inhibit them and they wouldnt be as good at hitting.

01-26-2002, 05:34 AM	#11
Hoiles All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 574	I think this is a very good idea, too. Though as someone pointed out, the team philosophy would have to change from time to time. In addition, how about changing the computer teams' managerial tendencies (and managers) change as time progresses as well. The 2001 Phillies had a bunch of speedsters, so they tended to have more agressive baserunners, but this might not be true in five years, so you can have the managerial tendencies reflect that.