Evander vs. Klitschko March 2007 ?

erickdamac · 11-14-2006, 07:13 AM

Evander promoter has offered Klitskcho a staggering 20million dollars for a fight with Holyfield March 2007!

mh2365 · 11-14-2006, 08:40 AM

This will end badly if it happens. Holyfield will be pummeled. There is no purpose to take this fight for Wlad. Holyfield is not relative. It is hard to pass up 20 million though.

meade95 · 11-14-2006, 09:11 AM

A prime Holyfield stops Wald.......but a 44 year old Holyfield has no reason to still be fighting.

He's a warrior through and through.......but it seems more then clear this fight makes no sense.

mh2365 · 11-14-2006, 09:57 AM

A prime Holyfield would be 50/50 to beat Wlad, but this version has zero chance .. it would be sad and ugly if they fight.

Mr Big · 11-14-2006, 10:21 AM

The ONLY upside of a Wlad-Evander fight would be that it would probably retire Evander for good. I heard him say in an interview once that the reason he wasn't retiring is because he hadn't got beaten up yet. As long as he still thinks he is competitive at the world class level, he is going to fight. Hopefully the powers that be would appoint a referee such as Joe Cortez to officiate the fight, so that Holyfield woudn't absorb too much punishment.

erickdamac · 11-14-2006, 11:33 PM

I dont see how shelly finkle (klitschko manager and adviser) can tell him to turn down triple what he made his last fight...And holyfield tries to "Box" Like he said he did against oquendo he will get beaten up badly before getting Koed...and thats sad.

snooptoadman · 11-14-2006, 11:43 PM

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Romdawg88 · 11-15-2006, 12:06 AM

This fight might make no money at all, no one will watch this. This fight will probably make Tyson/Spinks look like an epic back and forth war in comparison. Of course if I was Wlad I'd take this fight in a heartbeat for 20 million since he won't even break a sweat during it.

Mr Big · 11-15-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by erickdamac

I dont see how shelly finkle (klitschko manager and adviser) can tell him to turn down triple what he made his last fight...And holyfield tries to "Box" Like he said he did against oquendo he will get beaten up badly before getting Koed...and thats sad.

It is sad, and Wlad is nuts if he doesn't take the fight. It would be the easiest 20 million he's ever made. Heck, I'd fight Evander for half that!

IceTea · 11-15-2006, 12:07 AM

It won't be in NY because NYS will not let Holifield fight. If there is 20 million involved, for real, it will happen but won't last two rounds. In Holifield's prime, he would KO Wlad.

MJ

Romdawg88 · 11-15-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IceTea

It won't be in NY because NYS will not let Holifield fight. If there is 20 million involved, for real, it will happen but won't last two rounds. In Holifield's prime, he would KO Wlad.

MJ

I wouldn't be shocked if it went down in Germany since Wald could draw a crowd and Holyfield probably won't have that much trouble getting clear to fight there, I think.

Mr Big · 11-15-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IceTea

It won't be in NY because NYS will not let Holifield fight. If there is 20 million involved, for real, it will happen but won't last two rounds. In Holifield's prime, he would KO Wlad.

MJ

You mean you actually like Wlad in this fight?

I'm not so sure that even a prime Evander could have taken Klitschko out. It just seems to me that bigger guys such as Bowe and Lewis gave him trouble.

IceTea · 11-15-2006, 12:14 AM

I don't see how boxing can let this happen. I know that Holifield wants to win another title, but no one will take this seriously....who would buy this?

MJ

mh2365 · 11-15-2006, 05:20 AM

tysonfan is that you????

maxx · 11-15-2006, 12:32 PM

I suspect (especially given his speech decline and all the blows to the head he's taken) that Holyfield already is looking at some brain damage issues down the line even if he retires today.

A fight with Wlad is the kind of thing that could really scamble the eggs because Evander is tough enough to stay in there and absorb punishment before Wlad puts him away. A beatdown is the last thing Evander needs and that's what he'll get.

I'm with the group that hopes this fight never happens.

IceTea · 11-15-2006, 04:23 PM

I can't see the attraction for this fight. I don't think much of Wlad, but a fight with Holifield, in Evander's current condition, is a mismatch. I don't see any promoter paying 20 million....they would lose their ass. Wlad isn't a pvv draw. MSG had to give away tickets to fill seats....no way anyone buys him against a bald 44 year old.

MJ

Bam Bam · 11-15-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Big

You mean you actually like Wlad in this fight?

I'm not so sure that even a prime Evander could have taken Klitschko out. It just seems to me that bigger guys such as Bowe and Lewis gave him trouble.

I just don't think the Vlad chin would have held up, even though style wise it's not bad for Vlad

meade95 · 11-15-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bam Bam

I just don't think the Vlad chin would have held up, even though style wise it's not bad for Vlad

Agree - A prime Holyfield would have been able to put the pressure on Wald....Holy's combination punching was second to about none in his prime...This would have caused Wald all sorts of problems.

Wald size certainly would have been a big asset for him....and an advantage to use over Holyfield......However while big men like that would always cause Holyfield some problems.......Wald is not an "inside" type fighter that Bowe was (in his prime)......as for Lennox....he fought a clearly post-prime Holyfield and was extremely lucky to get the nod in there second fight. Lennox won their first fight and an aged Holyfield won their second match (but that is another subject).

So while Lennox's size played a role....Holyfield's age and deteriorating skills played a much larger factor in Lennox getting those wins. (Also giving Lennox some credit for fighting his type of fight regardless).

IceTea · 11-15-2006, 07:46 PM

Wlad isn't even the champ, he just happens to hold a title along with three other heavyweights. Once he wins the other belts and defends them several times you can mention him in the same statement as Evander, Lennox, Riddick, and others.

Let us not forget that Wlad quit on his stool against Puritty, quit against Brewster, and was blasted out by Sanders. I listed at least 15 other heavyweights fromt he past 20 years that were better, Holifield was on of these.

MJ

mh2365 · 11-15-2006, 07:56 PM

Showing that unrational hatred again there Ice

11-14-2006, 07:13 AM	#1
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Evander vs. Klitschko March 2007 ? Evander promoter has offered Klitskcho a staggering 20million dollars for a fight with Holyfield March 2007!

11-14-2006, 10:21 AM	#5
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	The ONLY upside of a Wlad-Evander fight would be that it would probably retire Evander for good. I heard him say in an interview once that the reason he wasn't retiring is because he hadn't got beaten up yet. As long as he still thinks he is competitive at the world class level, he is going to fight. Hopefully the powers that be would appoint a referee such as Joe Cortez to officiate the fight, so that Holyfield woudn't absorb too much punishment. __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

11-14-2006, 11:43 PM	#7
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11-15-2006, 12:06 AM	#8
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	This fight might make no money at all, no one will watch this. This fight will probably make Tyson/Spinks look like an epic back and forth war in comparison. Of course if I was Wlad I'd take this fight in a heartbeat for 20 million since he won't even break a sweat during it. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You. Last edited by Romdawg88; 11-15-2006 at 12:08 AM.

11-15-2006, 12:07 AM	#10
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	It won't be in NY because NYS will not let Holifield fight. If there is 20 million involved, for real, it will happen but won't last two rounds. In Holifield's prime, he would KO Wlad. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

11-14-2006, 08:40 AM	#2
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	This will end badly if it happens. Holyfield will be pummeled. There is no purpose to take this fight for Wlad. Holyfield is not relative. It is hard to pass up 20 million though.

11-14-2006, 09:11 AM	#3
meade95 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,095	A prime Holyfield stops Wald.......but a 44 year old Holyfield has no reason to still be fighting. He's a warrior through and through.......but it seems more then clear this fight makes no sense.

11-14-2006, 09:57 AM	#4
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	A prime Holyfield would be 50/50 to beat Wlad, but this version has zero chance .. it would be sad and ugly if they fight.

11-14-2006, 11:33 PM	#6
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	I dont see how shelly finkle (klitschko manager and adviser) can tell him to turn down triple what he made his last fight...And holyfield tries to "Box" Like he said he did against oquendo he will get beaten up badly before getting Koed...and thats sad.

11-15-2006, 12:14 AM	#13
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	I don't see how boxing can let this happen. I know that Holifield wants to win another title, but no one will take this seriously....who would buy this? MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

11-15-2006, 05:20 AM	#14
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	tysonfan is that you???? Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 11-15-2006 at 05:36 AM.

11-15-2006, 12:32 PM	#15
maxx All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 716	I suspect (especially given his speech decline and all the blows to the head he's taken) that Holyfield already is looking at some brain damage issues down the line even if he retires today. A fight with Wlad is the kind of thing that could really scamble the eggs because Evander is tough enough to stay in there and absorb punishment before Wlad puts him away. A beatdown is the last thing Evander needs and that's what he'll get. I'm with the group that hopes this fight never happens.

11-15-2006, 04:23 PM	#16
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	I can't see the attraction for this fight. I don't think much of Wlad, but a fight with Holifield, in Evander's current condition, is a mismatch. I don't see any promoter paying 20 million....they would lose their ass. Wlad isn't a pvv draw. MSG had to give away tickets to fill seats....no way anyone buys him against a bald 44 year old. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

11-15-2006, 07:46 PM	#19
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	Wlad isn't even the champ, he just happens to hold a title along with three other heavyweights. Once he wins the other belts and defends them several times you can mention him in the same statement as Evander, Lennox, Riddick, and others. Let us not forget that Wlad quit on his stool against Puritty, quit against Brewster, and was blasted out by Sanders. I listed at least 15 other heavyweights fromt he past 20 years that were better, Holifield was on of these. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

11-15-2006, 07:56 PM	#20
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Showing that unrational hatred again there Ice