Tigers get Sheffield

abailey3313 · 11-10-2006, 04:40 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html

MorseMoose · 11-10-2006, 04:43 PM

Crud.

andjbock · 11-10-2006, 04:44 PM

I hate it when the Yankees get prospects.

KILLERBS24 · 11-10-2006, 04:48 PM

Bad trade for the Tigers, they have to win it all next year or this trade did them no good. If your willing to trade Sanchez go after a younger player like Adam Dunn or someone like that. 3 young arms for a 38 yr old, yuk!! They could have waited the Yankees didn't have room for Sheffield, they could have got him cheaper than they did.

1998 Yankees · 11-10-2006, 05:04 PM

I love it when the Yankees get prospects.

Skipaway · 11-10-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

They could have waited the Yankees didn't have room for Sheffield, they could have got him cheaper than they did.

Why would you think so? There were a lot of teams wanted to trade for Sheffield. It was a seller's market.

1998 Yankees · 11-10-2006, 05:57 PM

This part of the SI story sums it up for Sheffield's future Tigers career:

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Detroit's current starting outfield has Craig Monroe in left, Curtis Granderson in center and Magglio Ordonez in right. Sheffield could play a corner spot with the AL champions or see time at designated hitter.

He's not moving any of those guys, he's not taking 3B away from Inge, and I don't think he plays much 1B especially if Casey re-signs. DH, baby. Right up his alley.

Skipaway · 11-10-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

This part of the SI story sums it up for Sheffield's future Tigers career:

He's not moving any of those guys, he's not taking 3B away from Inge, and I don't think he plays much 1B especially if Casey re-signs. DH, baby. Right up his alley.

I don't know what you mean. He's better than all of the guys you mentioned. Inge, Monroe, and Casey are all below average for their positions.

Jonzard · 11-10-2006, 06:06 PM

He'll probably split time in RF, 1B, and DH depending on who is the most banged up between him, Magglio, and Casey.

Raidergoo · 11-10-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

I don't know what you mean. He's better than all of the guys you mentioned. Inge, Monroe, and Casey are all below average for their positions.

Truth. +1 insightful

But why they made the deal in Detroit is beyond me.

1998 Yankees · 11-10-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

I don't know what you mean. He's better than all of the guys you mentioned. Inge, Monroe, and Casey are all below average for their positions.

Sorry, I must have been watching a different Tigers team beat my Yankees. Either that, or you're thinking of another Sheffield. I'm talking about the one who has not played 3B in years, took a 10-day course recently to learn 1B, and who takes 38-year-old legs out to the outfield whenever he plays there.

bp_ · 11-10-2006, 06:49 PM

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Sorry, I must have been watching a different Tigers team beat my Yankees. Either that, or you're thinking of another Sheffield. I'm talking about the one who has not played 3B in years, took a 10-day course recently to learn 1B, and who takes 38-year-old legs out to the outfield whenever he plays there.

He's still a better RF than Magglio. Ordonez is probably most likely to earn the majority of DH at-bats for the Tigers next year if they keep Monroe.

I don't really like this deal for DET but it's not like Sanchez is a sure thing. He's had arm injuries more than once and he is a little big. If he conditioned himself better he might be a little less injury prone. Perhaps Whelan will be the gem of the deal if he keeps developing into a potential closer and if Sanchez can't stay healthy.

Good trade by Cashman to extract this much from someone for a guy he pretty much had to deal.

CMH · 11-10-2006, 06:54 PM

The Tigers are obviously looking to strike again.

Despite their offensive numbers as a team last season, the complaint about their lineup was the missing MVP-type candidate. If Sheffield puts up 35 and 120 for them and the Tigers win games like they did in 2006, he'll get MVP consideration.

The young prospects probably hurts, but two of the guys are in Single A. Anything can happen in two years to those guys. They can become superstars or complete busts. So they give up a AAA pitcher - a pitcher they probably don't necessarily need at this moment - for an All-Star hitter.

The Yanks still got more than I expected, but I don't think Detroit messed up.

mlyons · 11-10-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Sorry, I must have been watching a different Tigers team beat my Yankees. Either that, or you're thinking of another Sheffield. I'm talking about the one who has not played 3B in years, took a 10-day course recently to learn 1B, and who takes 38-year-old legs out to the outfield whenever he plays there.

Better overall player, not better defensively.

JDOldSchool · 11-10-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

I don't know what you mean. He's better than all of the guys you mentioned. Inge, Monroe, and Casey are all below average for their positions.

As a 3B, I'd take Inge over Sheffield. The difference between offense and defense here is so drastic. Heck, even when Sheffield was young and mobile he would throw balls away just to not have the play the position.

darkhorse · 11-10-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Inge, Monroe, and Casey are all below average for their positions.

Brandon Inge is a below average third baseman?

Mega LOL.

1998 Yankees · 11-10-2006, 08:52 PM

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Brandon Inge is a below average third baseman?

Mega LOL.

That was my reaction. Also, replace Casey/Shelton* at 1B with his Mattingly-signed first baseman school diploma? I could not tell whether he was serious or not.

Anyway, maybe some playing time in RF to spell Magglio, as one poster pointed out, but I see no reason for the Tigers to displace anybody if DH is open. Hell, Sheffield is now saying he likes the idea; will extend his career, etc.

*Hmmm. I did think of one thing: Casey is a FA and if the Tigers do not re-sign him, and if Shelton does not measure up at the plate (they sent him down to AAA at one point, no?) then maybe some 1B playing time as well. Easy on the old knees. Good luck with that, Tigers!

KILLERBS24 · 11-10-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Why would you think so? There were a lot of teams wanted to trade for Sheffield. It was a seller's market.

Because there wasnt a team in MLB that would have given up as much as the Tigers did for a player who already has his skiis strapped on and is getting ready to fly down the wrong side of the mountain.

marc · 11-10-2006, 10:19 PM

Thank God he didn't end up in Philly.

Arlie Rahn · 11-10-2006, 10:41 PM

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Because there wasnt a team in MLB that would have given up as much as the Tigers did for a player who already has his skiis strapped on and is getting ready to fly down the wrong side of the mountain.

I don't see how they gave up a bunch. Two single A pitchers who aren't really on anyone's radar at this point and a AAA pitcher who's one year removed from arm surgery and nowhere near any top 100 prospect list.

Even if Sheffield plays at a level worse than the average of his past 4-5 seasons (and I don't really see why he would), the Tigers would still be getting a .285/.380/.510 hitter for the middle of their lineup. Even if he's just a DH, adding in those numbers plus 30+ HRs and 100+ RBI is exactly what Detroit was missing against St. Louis.

I think prospects are becoming way too valuable now-days if getting a bonafied .900+ OPS slugger is not worth a couple guys that (odds are) will never see the majors and a decent pitching prospect probably best suited for relief.

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CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	The Tigers are obviously looking to strike again. Despite their offensive numbers as a team last season, the complaint about their lineup was the missing MVP-type candidate. If Sheffield puts up 35 and 120 for them and the Tigers win games like they did in 2006, he'll get MVP consideration. The young prospects probably hurts, but two of the guys are in Single A. Anything can happen in two years to those guys. They can become superstars or complete busts. So they give up a AAA pitcher - a pitcher they probably don't necessarily need at this moment - for an All-Star hitter. The Yanks still got more than I expected, but I don't think Detroit messed up.