The European football thread - Page 388

ukhotstove · 11-10-2006, 04:32 PM

These were the teams I was brought up on, you never really hear of many of them anymore.

Red Star Belgrade
Trabzonspor
Dynamo Dresden
Ajax
Borussia Monchengladbach
Grasshoppers
Hajduk Split
Dinamo Tbilisi
Honved

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Any what?

You dont drink or gamble or engage in any vices.

Sdpm100 · 11-10-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

These were the teams I was brought up on, you never really hear of many of them anymore.

Red Star Belgrade
Trabzonspor
Dynamo Dresden
Ajax
Borussia Monchengladbach
Grasshoppers
Hajduk Split
Dinamo Tbilisi
Honved

Do you remember from a few years ago in the UEFA Cup, there was a team from Turkey called Gençlerbirliği? How that is actually pronounced is unknown.

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

These were the teams I was brought up on, you never really hear of many of them anymore.

Red Star Belgrade
Trabzonspor
Dynamo Dresden
Ajax
Borussia Monchengladbach
Grasshoppers
Hajduk Split
Dinamo Tbilisi
Honved

Those Eastern teams seem to be the victim of a change in the political winds. Monchengladbach is a mystery to me. Ajax is a double mystery because 10 years ago they were one of the worlds best teams with a great youth ptogram. How did it all go so wrong?

Sdpm100 · 11-10-2006, 04:36 PM

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You dont drink or gamble or engage in any vices.

No, I don't even know what it means. Shows I wasn't lying when I said I was boring.

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Do you remember from a few years ago in the UEFA Cup, there was a team from Turkey called Gençlerbirliği? How that is actually pronounced is unknown.

Its Glensler and they play in a beer league.

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:38 PM

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No, I don't even know what it means. Shows I wasn't lying when I said I was boring.

It doesnt mean you are boring. It means you have remarkable self control. Either that or you will explode one day and shoot half of Cheltenham.

ukhotstove · 11-10-2006, 04:38 PM

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Have you ever taken a train to Europe to watch some weekend football? Sounds like it could make a fun holiday weekend.

Never been on the train but have been watching St Etienne, Borussia Monchengladbach, Ajax and CSKA Sofia.

Sdpm100 · 11-10-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

These were the teams I was brought up on, you never really hear of many of them anymore.

Red Star Belgrade
Trabzonspor
Dynamo Dresden
Ajax
Borussia Monchengladbach
Grasshoppers
Hajduk Split
Dinamo Tbilisi
Honved

Do you remember Alania Vladikavkaz? They're not even around anymore (they were expelled and reformed as Spartak Vladikavkaz).

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:41 PM

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Never been on the train but have been watching St Etienne, Borussia Monchengladbach, Ajax and CSKA Sofia.

Ive always wanted to visit Bulgaria for some reason. Its the new frontier of the westernization of eastern europe. I like the way their national team plays football.

ukhotstove · 11-10-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Those Eastern teams seem to be the victim of a change in the political winds. Monchengladbach is a mystery to me. Ajax is a double mystery because 10 years ago they were one of the worlds best teams with a great youth ptogram. How did it all go so wrong?

Ajax is simple almost like the Sottish Premier it can't keep up with wages and same teams keep winning the title, most players just move for higher wages, same thing would have happened to the Russian leagues well it did a few years back but because of the ammount of money going into Russian football they've stopped players moving and if anything it's turning the other way with players from all over Europe and South America going there.

Sdpm100 · 11-10-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Those Eastern teams seem to be the victim of a change in the political winds. Monchengladbach is a mystery to me.

Monchengladbach is also a mystery to people who try to spell it.

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Originally Posted by bababui

Ajax is a double mystery because 10 years ago they were one of the worlds best teams with a great youth ptogram. How did it all go so wrong?

Money. Or to be more exact, money from the big teams in Spain, Italy, Germany, and England to lure away all their best young stars.

Money is also the reason for Dynamo Dresden's fall - although that is down to the relative disparity between GDP between the former East Germany and West Germany.
There is only one former East German team in the Bundesliga - Energie Cottbus, and only three more in 2. Bundesliga - Hansa Rostock, Carl Zeiss Jena and Erzgebirge Aue.

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:45 PM

I thought I read someone say that the Dutch leagues are closed..no relegation or promotion...but its not closed in FM?

ukhotstove · 11-10-2006, 04:45 PM

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Do you remember Alania Vladikavkaz? They're not even around anymore (they were expelled and reformed as Spartak Vladikavkaz).

Loads of teams have just dissapeared either by going to the wall or changing their name, of the European leagues the Russian ones have always got my attention, all those exotic names like Torpedo Moscow, Lokomotiv Moscow, Dinamo Moscow, Spartak Moscow you'd be like does anybody actually play outside of Moscow

Sdpm100 · 11-10-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

I thought I read someone say that the Dutch leagues are closed..no relegation or promotion...but its not closed in FM?

Yes it is closed, and it should be in FM (it certainly was in FM 2006).

There are only 38 professional clubs in the Netherlands - 18 in the Eredivisie, and 20 in the Eerste Divisie.

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Yes it is closed, and it should be in FM (it certainly was in FM 2006).

There are only 38 professional clubs in the Netherlands - 18 in the Eredivisie, and 20 in the Eerste Divisie.

Its not closed in FM 2006..I was looking at the rules a coupke of weeks ago..I'll try to get a screenshot.

ukhotstove · 11-10-2006, 04:49 PM

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Ive always wanted to visit Bulgaria for some reason. Its the new frontier of the westernization of eastern europe. I like the way their national team plays football.

CSKA came about because a friend of mine was getting married and had been to Bulgaria with his wife to be the year before on holiday, so he wanted to do something different for his stag do so we went there for the weekend and caught a game.

Really nice place Bulgaria, alot of the eastern European countries are though, heard great things from people who've been to different countries round there.

Sdpm100 · 11-10-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Loads of teams have just dissapeared either by going to the wall or changing their name, of the European leagues the Russian ones have always got my attention, all those exotic names like Torpedo Moscow, Lokomotiv Moscow, Dinamo Moscow, Spartak Moscow you'd be like does anybody actually play outside of Moscow

Yes, Moscow in the top three positions, and six teams in the top flight (although that will be five next season as one of Torpedo or Dinamo will go down along with Shinnik Yaroslavl).

bababui · 11-10-2006, 04:53 PM

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CSKA came about because a friend of mine was getting married and had been to Bulgaria with his wife to be the year before on holiday, so he wanted to do something different for his stag do so we went there for the weekend and caught a game.

Really nice place Bulgaria, alot of the eastern European countries are though, heard great things from people who've been to different countries round there.

The Bulgarian women Ive seen here have been fairly hot. Im sure you werent disappointed in that regards either.

bababui · 11-10-2006, 05:03 PM

According to FM, the bottom team in Holland is relegated

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