2006 AL Gold Glove Awards

magnet · 11-03-2006, 12:21 AM

Surprised this hasn't been posted

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/a...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

C - Ivan Rodriguez
1B - Mark Teixeira (There ya go SDPM!)
2B - Mark Grudzielanek
3B - Eric Chavez
SS - Derek Jeter
OF - Vernon Wells
OF - Torii Hunter
OF - Ichiro Suzuki
P - Kenny "Pine Tar" Rogers

Prodigal Son · 11-03-2006, 12:26 AM

Is Torii Hunter deserving in CF or winning on reputation? Honest question--I haven't kept up with him too much or seen him play much at all the past two years.

magnet · 11-03-2006, 12:28 AM

He is still a very good CF, but he isn't what he used to be. He also missed a good chunk of time too. That being said, I don't know of another AL CF more deserving.

Reputation has a lot to do with it though, like Jeter.

Go Tribe · 11-03-2006, 01:42 AM

Grady?

Most innings
most total chances (led majors)
most put outs (led majors)
2nd in assists with 7 to hunter and matthews jr who had 8
3 errors (1 less than hunter)
#4 in RF (ahead of hunter)
#3 in ZR (ahead of hunter)

only CF in top 4 of every category

JDOldSchool · 11-03-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by magnet

He is still a very good CF, but he isn't what he used to be. He also missed a good chunk of time too. That being said, I don't know of another AL CF more deserving.

Reputation has a lot to do with it though, like Jeter.

A lot. A LOT. Hunter is above average, at best. There's at least a handful of guys who deserve it more.

Of course, there's two handfuls of guys who deserve it more than Jeter.

Sdpm100 · 11-03-2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by magnet

Surprised this hasn't been posted

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/a...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

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1B - Mark Teixeira (There ya go SDPM!)
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And thanks for the name check. I'm pleased someone noticed.

magnet · 11-03-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

And thanks for the name check. I'm pleased someone noticed.

I'm surprised I spelled his name right!

Sdpm100 · 11-03-2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by magnet

I'm surprised I spelled his name right!

Just remember there are two "ei"'s in MT's name and you're on the way.

Vris · 11-03-2006, 08:58 AM

Homer: What? No Lowell or Gonzalez?

Reasonable human being: Chavez and Lowell are probably a wash (I'm too lazy to look up the "stats" that are fielding stats) but Gonzalez had to have been a lot better than Jeter.

Lastplaneout · 11-03-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vris

Homer: What? No Lowell or Gonzalez?

Reasonable human being: Chavez and Lowell are probably a wash (I'm too lazy to look up the "stats" that are fielding stats) but Gonzalez had to have been a lot better than Jeter.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...s_as_i_see_it/

Chris Dial at BTF has Gonzalez at 14 runs saved per 150 games and Jeter at -6.

Nukester · 11-03-2006, 09:52 AM

3 straight for Jeter !

Of the nine awards given out, only one player did not have any contract incentive for winning the Gold Glove. All eight others did. Wanna guess who the one guy without the incentive was ? Derek Jeter. His reasoning for not getting a GG incentive into the contract ? He said when he makes that much money, it should be expected of him to win it. Class act all the way.

did you also know that there are no Yankee players with contract incentives to make the All-Star team ? Again, it is expected of them, so there are no incentives.

thehatfield · 11-03-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vris

Homer: What? No Lowell or Gonzalez?

Reasonable human being: Chavez and Lowell are probably a wash (I'm too lazy to look up the "stats" that are fielding stats) but Gonzalez had to have been a lot better than Jeter.

Here's what Gordon Edes had to say:

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Derek Jeter is a great player. There can be little debate. But Jeter may not even be the best-fielding shortstop in New York (hello, Jose Reyes).

Yet Thursday Jeter won his third straight Gold Glove at shortstop, beating out Alex Gonzalez of the Red Sox, who was merely the best fielding shortstop in Sox history, and who belongs in the same company as Ozzie Smith and Omar Vizquel among all-time great glovemen at short.

Jeter won even though he made more than twice as many errors as Gonzalez (15 to 7) and had a lower fielding percentage (.975 to .985).

Sox third baseman Mike Lowell also went unrewarded with a Gold Glove, as Eric Chavez of Oakland won for the sixth straight season. At least you could make a strong case for Chavez; he made one fewer error than Lowell (5 for Chavez, 6 for Lowell) and their fielding percentage was the same (.97), though Lowell started 19 more games than Chavez and handled 90 more chances (456 to 386).

You can't pin this one on the dopes in the media. AL managers and coaches vote on the Gold Gloves.

I didn't realize that. Maybe OOTP should allow us to vote in-game!

andjbock · 11-03-2006, 10:08 AM

It strikes me as odd that the Red Sox come within 1 error of tying the record for lowest all-time team total and have no GGers. The Mariners in whatever year it was had 4.

jaxmagicman · 11-03-2006, 10:14 AM

What sucks even worse is Gonzalez was the best fielder in the National the last 3 years as well and didn't win it. He just doesn't get his due.

Joshv02 · 11-03-2006, 10:16 AM

Alex played like 110 games. I can understand not giving it to him.

JDOldSchool · 11-03-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by andjbock

It strikes me as odd that the Red Sox come within 1 error of tying the record for lowest all-time team total and have no GGers. The Mariners in whatever year it was had 4.

I was going to reply to this post with the requisite "Errors don't tell you anything!" line but, actually, you're right. While errors don't really say much, the people voting don't know that. I'm really surprised Mark Ellis and his TWO errors at 2B this year didn't win it. I don't know if he was truly deserving, but based on D'Angelo Jimenez's ALCS play I think maybe he was.

Either way, I'm just glad Joe Crede didn't win anything. Other than that, I don't really care.

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

Alex played like 110 games. I can understand not giving it to him.

Hunter played 98 last year, wasn't the best OF in his own division, and won.

eriqjaffe · 11-03-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lastplaneout

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...s_as_i_see_it/

Chris Dial at BTF has Gonzalez at 14 runs saved per 150 games and Jeter at -6.

And Juan Uribe at 16 RS. Of course, the voters were probably afraid of getting shot.

mikev · 11-03-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nukester

Wanna guess who the one guy without the incentive was ? Derek Jeter. His reasoning for not getting a GG incentive into the contract ? He said when he makes that much money, it should be expected of him to win it. Class act all the way.

That looks good in the media.

What it really means: Dude, you already make 20 million dollars a year. Why do you need more if you get handed a stupid award

mikev · 11-03-2006, 12:41 PM

Double Post FTW.

(Mark Ellis should have won at 2B)

eriqjaffe · 11-03-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

TWhy do you need more if you get handed a stupid award

And they have to hand it to him, because if he has to move to his left to pick it up, he's never gonna get to it.

11-03-2006, 12:21 AM	#1
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	2006 AL Gold Glove Awards Surprised this hasn't been posted http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/a...=.jsp&c_id=mlb C - Ivan Rodriguez 1B - Mark Teixeira (There ya go SDPM!) 2B - Mark Grudzielanek 3B - Eric Chavez SS - Derek Jeter OF - Vernon Wells OF - Torii Hunter OF - Ichiro Suzuki P - Kenny "Pine Tar" Rogers

11-03-2006, 08:58 AM	#9
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	Homer: What? No Lowell or Gonzalez? Reasonable human being: Chavez and Lowell are probably a wash (I'm too lazy to look up the "stats" that are fielding stats) but Gonzalez had to have been a lot better than Jeter. __________________ None Blog it.

11-03-2006, 10:14 AM	#14
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	What sucks even worse is Gonzalez was the best fielder in the National the last 3 years as well and didn't win it. He just doesn't get his due. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

11-03-2006, 10:16 AM	#15
Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	Alex played like 110 games. I can understand not giving it to him. __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP

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mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Double Post FTW. (Mark Ellis should have won at 2B) __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

11-03-2006, 12:26 AM	#2
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	Is Torii Hunter deserving in CF or winning on reputation? Honest question--I haven't kept up with him too much or seen him play much at all the past two years.

11-03-2006, 12:28 AM	#3
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	He is still a very good CF, but he isn't what he used to be. He also missed a good chunk of time too. That being said, I don't know of another AL CF more deserving. Reputation has a lot to do with it though, like Jeter.

11-03-2006, 01:42 AM	#4
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Grady? Most innings most total chances (led majors) most put outs (led majors) 2nd in assists with 7 to hunter and matthews jr who had 8 3 errors (1 less than hunter) #4 in RF (ahead of hunter) #3 in ZR (ahead of hunter) only CF in top 4 of every category Last edited by Go Tribe; 11-03-2006 at 01:44 AM.

11-03-2006, 09:52 AM	#11
Nukester All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newburgh, NY Posts: 1,923	3 straight for Jeter ! Of the nine awards given out, only one player did not have any contract incentive for winning the Gold Glove. All eight others did. Wanna guess who the one guy without the incentive was ? Derek Jeter. His reasoning for not getting a GG incentive into the contract ? He said when he makes that much money, it should be expected of him to win it. Class act all the way. did you also know that there are no Yankee players with contract incentives to make the All-Star team ? Again, it is expected of them, so there are no incentives.

11-03-2006, 10:08 AM	#13
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,637	It strikes me as odd that the Red Sox come within 1 error of tying the record for lowest all-time team total and have no GGers. The Mariners in whatever year it was had 4.