The European football thread - Page 273

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

UKHS, the fan in my completely agrees with you. If I was a Man U fan though I would disagree. A poor pitch nuetralizes our advantages and increases the chances of Rooney getting hurt yet again.

Rooneys injury though was played on a perfect pitch, there's more injruies now on these so called perfect pitches than there ever was. sdpm will have the facts but years ago when there was dodgy pitches and such Liverpool only used about 15 players all season, now players are injured every 5 minutes.

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Maybe, because of posts like the above, he thinks you are a bit unstable. Im sure he doesnt understand your sense of humo(u)r.

So I shouldn't have posted it then. I should have realised.

bababui · 10-13-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

So I shouldn't have posted it then. I should have realised.

Its fine, and very colo(u)rful, as long as he is in on the joke. Dont change, SDPM.

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 04:59 PM

Ok on the dynasty front I've come up with two ideas, one is to sim and post when I can, the other which is a bit different would be to sim and post 1 day per day so you could look forward to Saturday or whatever for the games lol.

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Rooneys injury though was played on a perfect pitch, there's more injruies now on these so called perfect pitches than there ever was. sdpm will have the facts but years ago when there was dodgy pitches and such Liverpool only used about 15 players all season, now players are injured every 5 minutes.

1978/79 they used just 15 players, and won the Championship.

Just look at them now - they haven't picked the same starting 11 in over 90 games under Benitez. Shows how times change, doesn't it?

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

UKHS, the fan in my completely agrees with you. If I was a Man U fan though I would disagree. A poor pitch nuetralizes our advantages and increases the chances of Rooney getting hurt yet again.

Just think how lucky that Sochaux defender was when he played that backpass that there was a load of water in the goalmouth. It had already beaten the keeper's stretch to save it from going in.

However if I'd been the goalie, I'd still have throttled him either way.

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

1978/79 they used just 15 players, and won the Championship.

Just look at them now - they haven't picked the same starting 11 in over 90 games under Benitez. Shows how times change, doesn't it?

Was that just in the Championship because 78 would have been a European season hmmm Wembley final beating Bruges was that 78 ?

bababui · 10-13-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Ok on the dynasty front I've come up with two ideas, one is to sim and post when I can, the other which is a bit different would be to sim and post 1 day per day so you could look forward to Saturday or whatever for the games lol.

I like the 1 per day idea

On the injury front, I wonder whether many injuries arent a result of incorrect physical training and the fact that the game is played at a much faster pace and the players are much stronger.

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Was that just in the Championship because 78 would have been a European season hmmm Wembley final beating Bruges was that 78 ?

I believe it was just in Division One yeah. That season they only conceded 16 goals in 42 games as well.

The European final against Club Brugge was at the end of the previous season 1977-78, indeed in the following year they lost over two legs to Nottingham Forest in the first round. And look what they went on to do.

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:12 PM

dola, just looking at that European Cup, and I know how you like the names from the past ukhs, so here's one that sticks out to me.

From the first round - Dynamo Dresden defeated Partizan Belgrade on penalties after both teams won their home leg 2-0.

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 05:13 PM

I think it's down to training and such, they keep going on about training methods and eating right but I think it's got to the stage it's having the opposite effect to what it's meant to. By this I mean their at such a peak fitness wise that they suffer more injuries than ever, all you ever hear about is hamstring injuries there were never as many hamstring injuries years back as there is now and this new metatarsal injury I'd never heard of before.

Also part of the problem is the boots they have now, I got my boots years ago but couple years back had to get a new pair, anyway I've always had a powerful shot so when I put these new boots on I nearly broke my foot when I kicked the ball it was like kicking a ball with my slippers on.

bababui · 10-13-2006, 05:17 PM

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Also part of the problem is the boots they have now, I got my boots years ago but couple years back had to get a new pair, anyway I've always had a powerful shot so when I put these new boots on I nearly broke my foot when I kicked the ball it was like kicking a ball with my slippers on.

Maybe Im wrong, but I am shocked that there has never been a barefoot player. Back in the 70's in American football there were several barefoot placekickers. I would theorize that kicking barefood would give you more control over power and accuracy.

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

dola, just looking at that European Cup, and I know how you like the names from the past ukhs, so here's one that sticks out to me.

From the first round - Dynamo Dresden defeated Partizan Belgrade on penalties after both teams won their home leg 2-0.

Dresden and Partizan were two teams I thought about for the dynasty but Partizan aren't really a challenge bit like taking over Celtic or Rangers in the SPL, can't think of the reason why I didn't choose Dresden.

I just remember growing up with teams like that before the advent of internet and sky you used to wait till think it was Match of the Day or ITV on a Wednesday evening to watch some European highlights, used to be able to stay up late on a Wednesday night to watch the football highlights then you'd go to school the day after and talk about watching Grasshoppers against Hajduk Split or St Etienne play Honved and if you were really lucky you'd get to go watch Liverpool play at home against Trabzonspor or some other team you couldn't pronounce or didn't know where they came from.

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Maybe Im wrong, but I am shocked that there has never been a barefoot player. Back in the 70's in American football there were several barefoot placekickers. I would theorize that kicking barefood would give you more control over power and accuracy.

It's actually banned under FIFA rules. And I expect once you get a stud (cleat) from someones boot into your barefoot, you would soon go back to wearing them.

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Maybe Im wrong, but I am shocked that there has never been a barefoot player. Back in the 70's in American football there were several barefoot placekickers. I would theorize that kicking barefood would give you more control over power and accuracy.

And get your foot crushed when someone stands on your foot with studs on

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Dresden and Partizan were two teams I thought about for the dynasty but Partizan aren't really a challenge bit like taking over Celtic or Rangers in the SPL, can't think of the reason why I didn't choose Dresden.

Probably because they were in 2. Bundesliga (now back down in the Regionalliga).

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...and if you were really lucky you'd get to go watch Liverpool play at home against Trabzonspor or some other team you couldn't pronounce or didn't know where they came from.

Just like Gençlerbirligi from a couple of seasons ago.

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

It's actually banned under FIFA rules. And I expect once you get a stud (cleat) from someones boot into your barefoot, you would soon go back to wearing them.

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You probably get low level African players playing without boots, but I know these days that people collect old boots and shirts to send to third world countries, probably the next famine you see on TV a kid will be running round in a Latics top.

Sdpm100 · 10-13-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

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You probably get low level African players playing without boots, but I know these days that people collect old boots and shirts to send to third world countries, probably the next famine you see on TV a kid will be running round in a Latics top.

Yep. And probably on a dirt field that when you run or slide tackle on it, it suddenly looks like a picture from the "Dust Bowl". (a point of reference for our Americans there)

ukhotstove · 10-13-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Probably because they were in 2. Bundesliga (now back down in the Regionalliga).

I think ti was because their website wasn't Engish user friendly, I know Grasshoppers was because of this also Torpedo's website is useless really unless your Russian but I've seen them play that's why I chose them, if the Georgian league was in FM then I would have done FC Ameri they have a really good website in fact best I've seen for a non english speaking country.

bababui · 10-13-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

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You probably get low level African players playing without boots, but I know these days that people collect old boots and shirts to send to third world countries, probably the next famine you see on TV a kid will be running round in a Latics top.

Surely no one would be that poor.

10-13-2006, 04:59 PM	#5444
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Ok on the dynasty front I've come up with two ideas, one is to sim and post when I can, the other which is a bit different would be to sim and post 1 day per day so you could look forward to Saturday or whatever for the games lol. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

10-13-2006, 05:13 PM	#5451
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	I think it's down to training and such, they keep going on about training methods and eating right but I think it's got to the stage it's having the opposite effect to what it's meant to. By this I mean their at such a peak fitness wise that they suffer more injuries than ever, all you ever hear about is hamstring injuries there were never as many hamstring injuries years back as there is now and this new metatarsal injury I'd never heard of before. Also part of the problem is the boots they have now, I got my boots years ago but couple years back had to get a new pair, anyway I've always had a powerful shot so when I put these new boots on I nearly broke my foot when I kicked the ball it was like kicking a ball with my slippers on. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

10-13-2006, 05:12 PM	#5450
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,644	dola, just looking at that European Cup, and I know how you like the names from the past ukhs, so here's one that sticks out to me. From the first round - Dynamo Dresden defeated Partizan Belgrade on penalties after both teams won their home leg 2-0.