The European football thread - Page 220

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I think this is about the time I should mention again, that USA Today writer's idea during the World Cup of having multi-point goals to "appeal" to the general American public.

Oddly, 80 years ago the English public would have responded to the idea of red and yellow cards with the same derision that you rightly assign to that idea.

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

They could make a video replay exception for pens awarded in golden goal time.

I don't see how video replay would make the decisions better for subjective incidents. All it is is passing the decision onto another official who could have a different or the same view, but possibly still wrong, as the referee.

Ball over the line, fine, pretty much anything else is unworkable and unwieldy IMO.

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Oddly, 80 years ago the English public would have responded to the idea of red and yellow cards with the same derision that you rightly assign to that idea.

It's slightly different. The referee could still send off a player before cards.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:10 PM

I wish there would be a single standard for officiating. Ive seen several EPL matches so far this season and stuff that would have been automatic reds are yellows or simply fouls. Standardization would be a good thing in football.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:11 PM

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It's slightly different. The referee could still send off a player before cards.

Now its becoming clear who isnt the real fan.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:13 PM

UKHS hasnt returned to tell us who he chose.

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

I wish there would be a single standard for officiating. Ive seen several EPL matches so far this season and stuff that would have been automatic reds are yellows or simply fouls. Standardization would be a good thing in football.

This is something that annoys me, so thanks for bringing it up.

I hear so many people say "why doesn't the referee use some common sense" over certain decisions, and yet then they also get moaned at "for not being consistent" with the decisions.

You can't have both. And there's no so much thing in the referee's rule book as common sense. You apply the rules as you see the incidents in the game.

Same with the famous "the referee is looking to even up the game" either over penalties given/not given, or red cards given/not given. If any referee thinks that, he should no longer referee. You give decisions (and cards) based on what happened there and then.
You can't go back to an incident that could have occurred half an hour ago to "even it up", because you don't know if that decision was wrong.

Rant over.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:17 PM

If FIFA says that tackles from behind are red card offenses in the WC then why arent they also red card offenses in the leagues? Or maybe the WC should use the less strict league rules. Where am I going wrong?

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

If FIFA says that tackles from behind are red card offenses in the WC then why arent they also red card offenses in the leagues? Or maybe the WC should use the less strict league rules. Where am I going wrong?

They were red cards at the start of the tournament. But after everyone, quite rightly IMO, moaned there were way too many red cards, FIFA and Blatter (who like most, I hate) had to back down. Later in the tournament they were downgraded to yellow at most.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:23 PM

Paul, Bosman legalities aside, would you favor a limit on foreign players on all local teams? I think a lot of the local color and passion from the game has disappeared with the internationalization of the game.

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:24 PM

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Paul, Bosman legalities aside, would you favor a limit on foreign players on all local teams? I think a lot of the local color and passion from the game has disappeared with the internationalization of the game.

You'd be better to ask a real fan, IMO. They would be better qualified to answer.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

You'd be better to ask a real fan, IMO. They would be better qualified to answer.

Thats why I am asking you. You are the most real fan of all because you put the game above your selfish interests.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:31 PM

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Paul, Bosman legalities aside, would you favor a limit on foreign players on all local teams? I think a lot of the local color and passion from the game has disappeared with the internationalization of the game.

Was this a bad question??

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:33 PM

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Was this a bad question??

I don't really have an answer. I haven't got any thoughts on it.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:36 PM

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I don't really have an answer. I haven't got any thoughts on it.

OK....obviously people here arent too happy with my noobish questions.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:37 PM

Any history on the Bulgarian side?

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:39 PM

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OK....obviously people here arent too happy with my noobish questions.

As I said it would be better to ask someone who will actual;ly be affected by any changes - fans who pay to go and watch a game.

I think it could have an adverse effect as if clubs have to buy English, the Premier League clubs will still have the best players, but the teams in the Championship will be left with players of a lower skill level (accentuating the gap between the two divisions even more).

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:41 PM

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Any history on the Bulgarian side?

Our historian has disappeared it would seem.

bababui · 09-27-2006, 03:43 PM

Will you be watching the Bayern match?

I thought you were the historian?

Sdpm100 · 09-27-2006, 03:44 PM

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Will you be watching the Bayern match?

No. Unless you are on Sky you don't get it.

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I thought you were the historian?

No, that's ukhs.

09-27-2006, 03:10 PM	#4384
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I wish there would be a single standard for officiating. Ive seen several EPL matches so far this season and stuff that would have been automatic reds are yellows or simply fouls. Standardization would be a good thing in football.

09-27-2006, 03:13 PM	#4386
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	UKHS hasnt returned to tell us who he chose.

09-27-2006, 03:17 PM	#4388
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	If FIFA says that tackles from behind are red card offenses in the WC then why arent they also red card offenses in the leagues? Or maybe the WC should use the less strict league rules. Where am I going wrong?

09-27-2006, 03:23 PM	#4390
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Paul, Bosman legalities aside, would you favor a limit on foreign players on all local teams? I think a lot of the local color and passion from the game has disappeared with the internationalization of the game.

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bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Any history on the Bulgarian side?

09-27-2006, 03:43 PM	#4399
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Will you be watching the Bayern match? I thought you were the historian?