Ootp5 Preview At Ugo.com - Page 2

statfreak · 02-13-2003, 03:33 PM

Whoa, I have always looked forward to Jonah's previews/reviews and enjoyed his contribution to OOTP, that last response was a little overboard, IMO.

I guess, I didn't read the above posts the same way Mr. Falcon did.

I'll step quietly out.

Thanks for the preview Mr. Falcon.

GForce22 · 02-13-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Jonah Falcon
Whatever (rolling eyes). It's not misinformation,

you wrote information that was wrong. That, by definition, is misinformation.

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and it's not even RELEVANT to the game itself. If I didn't notice it in OOTP3 or OOTP4 - and I'm someone who has played OOTP a LOT - then it's new to me to have a BUTTON that DIRECTLY does career leaders.

It was apparently relevant enough for you to mention. Do you always write irrelevant things.

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If you want to nitpick yourselves to death, be my guest. Continue, and I'll suspect you don't have something called a LIFE.

In short, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!! [/B]

I love this crap...you screw up, people point it out, and you say those who correct your mistake are in need of a life. Take some damn responsibility.

This just goes to show ANYONE can write a review. Not anyone can do it well.

GH

John C · 02-13-2003, 03:43 PM

I'm a journalist by way of my college degree. We're taught, above everything else, to be factual.

I'm disappointed by how the journalist in this thread has handled himself. Kind of makes me want to apply to be one of these gamesite people, so I can do it the right way.

-John

Markus Heinsohn · 02-13-2003, 03:45 PM

Guys... stay calm. This is just a preview

Maybe Jonah never played with the reduced ratings before, and now since they are the default for custom/standard leagues he thought this was a new feature

Guys, just enjoy the info!

sporr · 02-13-2003, 03:48 PM

There is so much NEW stuff in OOTP5, why mention something that isn't?

spleen1015 · 02-13-2003, 03:49 PM

Shane, that right there says SOOOOOOOOO much. There is much, much more that could be talked about.

zyk · 02-13-2003, 04:12 PM

nice review, thnx for taking the time to do that!

ignore the other llamas complaining.. =)

Cole · 02-13-2003, 04:14 PM

So.... manager mode sounds cool, doesn't it?

IatricSB · 02-13-2003, 04:14 PM

Disappointing review

IatricSB · 02-13-2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by ripwalk
So.... manager mode sounds cool, doesn't it?

I think it's been a great addition. Adds some more spice to solo play.

EagleEye_0 · 02-13-2003, 04:43 PM

This is the first piece of writing I have seen from Jonah, and I feel it is a piece of junk. He definitely provided mis-information and then simply sluffed it off when he was challenged about it. If Markus and Co feel alright with it then thats fine, but I will be very reluctant to think of Mr. Falcon's future writings as having any value whatsoever.

Andy · 02-13-2003, 04:48 PM

The screenshots were nice, especially the manager screens. That's all I will say.

zeroIQ · 02-13-2003, 05:03 PM

Mr. Falcon:

Here's what I think of your preview of OOTP5. Aside from the screenshots, your preview offered me NOTHING that I didn't already know about OOTP5. How am I supposed to get excited for a game when all you mention is insubstantial, recycled information not necessarily nor completely unique to this version of the game. I sincerely hope you do a better job of writing a review for OOTP5 when it comes out, or alternatively, let someone else who's more capable do it for you.

Sincerely,
zeroIQ

Jermanfu · 02-13-2003, 05:05 PM

Ok guys, If anything, I'm disgruntled with the responses to the article, not the article itself. Don't you guys think he's been bashed enough? Let's try to show a little dignity from the OOTP community

Treches · 02-13-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Jonah Falcon
If I didn't notice it in OOTP3 or OOTP4 - and I'm someone who has played OOTP a LOT - then it's new to me to have a BUTTON that DIRECTLY does career leaders.

Don't embarrass yourself more, pal. In fact, spleen isn't accurate: Career Leaders have been in the game since OOTP2. Here's your button:

blubbla · 02-13-2003, 05:46 PM

I just wish that the review was close to accurate -- but it's sadly mistaken in places (and not going to be fixed, which is even more of a problem). That's why it's being so negatively recieved here.

Jake · 02-13-2003, 05:48 PM

Seems to me the preview would help attracting more customers.

So why argue over something little like what was in a previous version or not? As long as its in the version he's previewing, it works for me.

BaseballMan · 02-13-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Treches
Don't embarrass yourself more, pal. In fact, spleen isn't accurate: Career Leaders have been in the game since OOTP2. Here's your button:

That was my thinking.
Its easy to prove it just look in the game.
But like Jermanfu said he just found out about it
so maybe the guy didny know but sometimes you have to
admit when your wrong or have made a mistake.
Intentions are good but when someone points out a mistake,
check it out and if it is wrong then correct it and admit your mistake or prove that it is right but dont insult people who have played the game for years and know the product.

sixto · 02-13-2003, 05:57 PM

I'm guessing the real frustration here is the knowledge that, if we see that reviewers put this little effort into a preview where we know a lot of details and therefore can judge the effort, then imagine what sort of effort is lacking on previews/reviews where we *don't* know what we're missing.

However, I agree with the point that as long as the preview is positive, it's serving its purpose of giving the game free publicity. Hopefully everyone reads previews with a grain of salt anyway, considering we all know how much things can change before games go gold.

We're all kooky and know where the career leaders button is (although I'm sorry to admit I actually didn't know, and I don't think I'm the only one besides jermanfu who didn't). The cattle who will buy this game because they saw this review won't necessarily be that detail oriented.

Go Tribe · 02-13-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jonah Falcon
Check it out here:

http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/fe...outofthepark5/

Let me know what you think.

Corrected to.......

Quote:

Check it out here:

http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/fe...outofthepark5/

I'll let you know what you should think

02-13-2003, 03:33 PM	#21
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	Whoa, I have always looked forward to Jonah's previews/reviews and enjoyed his contribution to OOTP, that last response was a little overboard, IMO. I guess, I didn't read the above posts the same way Mr. Falcon did. I'll step quietly out. Thanks for the preview Mr. Falcon. __________________ Roll out the barrel!

02-13-2003, 03:43 PM	#23
John C Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Albion, RI Posts: 2,261 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	I'm a journalist by way of my college degree. We're taught, above everything else, to be factual. I'm disappointed by how the journalist in this thread has handled himself. Kind of makes me want to apply to be one of these gamesite people, so I can do it the right way. -John __________________ Facebook \| My Videos

02-13-2003, 04:14 PM	#29
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02-13-2003, 05:03 PM	#33
zeroIQ Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 143	Mr. Falcon: Here's what I think of your preview of OOTP5. Aside from the screenshots, your preview offered me NOTHING that I didn't already know about OOTP5. How am I supposed to get excited for a game when all you mention is insubstantial, recycled information not necessarily nor completely unique to this version of the game. I sincerely hope you do a better job of writing a review for OOTP5 when it comes out, or alternatively, let someone else who's more capable do it for you. Sincerely, zeroIQ __________________ <p>Lambs & Legends - Your path to stardom... or oblivion. Last edited by zeroIQ; 02-13-2003 at 05:08 PM.

02-13-2003, 05:05 PM	#34
Jermanfu All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 899	Ok guys, If anything, I'm disgruntled with the responses to the article, not the article itself. Don't you guys think he's been bashed enough? Let's try to show a little dignity from the OOTP community __________________ "I took the two most expensive asprins in history." - Wally Pipp on his decision to sit out a game with a headache which let Lou Gehrig into the lineup for the first time. http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/Jermanfu/

02-13-2003, 03:45 PM	#24
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	Guys... stay calm. This is just a preview Maybe Jonah never played with the reduced ratings before, and now since they are the default for custom/standard leagues he thought this was a new feature Guys, just enjoy the info!

02-13-2003, 03:48 PM	#25
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	There is so much NEW stuff in OOTP5, why mention something that isn't?

02-13-2003, 03:49 PM	#26
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,000	Shane, that right there says SOOOOOOOOO much. There is much, much more that could be talked about.

02-13-2003, 04:12 PM	#27
zyk Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: vegas Posts: 177	nice review, thnx for taking the time to do that! ignore the other llamas complaining.. =)

02-13-2003, 04:14 PM	#28
Cole Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick Posts: 2,685	So.... manager mode sounds cool, doesn't it?

02-13-2003, 04:43 PM	#31
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	This is the first piece of writing I have seen from Jonah, and I feel it is a piece of junk. He definitely provided mis-information and then simply sluffed it off when he was challenged about it. If Markus and Co feel alright with it then thats fine, but I will be very reluctant to think of Mr. Falcon's future writings as having any value whatsoever.

02-13-2003, 04:48 PM	#32
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,263	The screenshots were nice, especially the manager screens. That's all I will say.

02-13-2003, 05:46 PM	#36
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,457	I just wish that the review was close to accurate -- but it's sadly mistaken in places (and not going to be fixed, which is even more of a problem). That's why it's being so negatively recieved here.

02-13-2003, 05:48 PM	#37
Jake Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 55	Seems to me the preview would help attracting more customers. So why argue over something little like what was in a previous version or not? As long as its in the version he's previewing, it works for me.

02-13-2003, 05:57 PM	#39
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,262	I'm guessing the real frustration here is the knowledge that, if we see that reviewers put this little effort into a preview where we know a lot of details and therefore can judge the effort, then imagine what sort of effort is lacking on previews/reviews where we don't know what we're missing. However, I agree with the point that as long as the preview is positive, it's serving its purpose of giving the game free publicity. Hopefully everyone reads previews with a grain of salt anyway, considering we all know how much things can change before games go gold. We're all kooky and know where the career leaders button is (although I'm sorry to admit I actually didn't know, and I don't think I'm the only one besides jermanfu who didn't). The cattle who will buy this game because they saw this review won't necessarily be that detail oriented.