New HW Boxers Rated

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Jim McIlvaney Rating 1 England
Heavyweight 1965-68
13 wins / 12 losses / 3 draws / 8 KO

Hometown/Birthplace: Birmingham, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

McIlvaney was stopped in 10 of his 12 losses and never went more then 6 rounds in a fight. He won fights over Mick Carter(2-8-5,0) twice and drew one other fight, Barry Rodney(4-14-4,2) twice, LHW Roy Seward(9-12-1,6), Tommy Woods(6-8-1,4) along with one draw, Lloyd Walford, and Paul Brown(2-11-0,2) as far as his more "noteable" victims were. He lost to Vic Moore, Billy Wynter, George Dulaire, Doyle Brown, Len Rocky James, Ian Mayberry, Gene Innocent three, Tommy Woods, Peter Boddington, and Joe Bugner

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Barry Rodney Rating 1 England
Heavyweight 1965-68
4 wins / 14 losses / 4 draws / 2 KO

Hometown: Cricklewood, England
Birthplace: Jamaica

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Barry's four wins were over Tommy Woods twice, Terry Feeley, and Billy Thompson(3-10-0,1).The four draws were against Mick Carter, Ian Mayberry, Mick Carter again and Dennis Avoth. He lost three times to Alex Kelly(4-2-0,0), Jim Mcllvaney twice, Vic Moore twice, Barney Wilson, Des Cox, Gene Innocent, Peter Boddington and Terry Daly.


Mick Oliver Rating 1 England
Heavyweight 1966-68
1 win / 5 losses / 0 draws / 0 KO

Hometown: London, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Lost to Jim Mcllvaney, Charlie Wilson, Des Cox, Paul Cassidy and Joe Bugner. Only win was a 6 round decision over Barry Rodney.


Ernie Field Rating 1 England
Heavyweight 1966-68
6 wins / 12 losses / 1 draw / 4 KO

Hometown: Rothwell, England
Birthplace: Wakefield, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

In the first year of Field's career from March 1966 to March 1967 he manages a 6-5-1,4KO record. Wins included over LWH Tom Calderwood, Vernon Allen, Eddie Avoth and Charlie Wilson(8-15-2,2). He then looses to Leweni Waga and Johnny Hendrickson in April and May 1967. That followed in 1968 with losses to Des Cox, LHW Jan Happie Pieterse(17-5-0,9KO), Peter Boddington and Gene Innocent.


Phil Cox Rating 1 England
Heavyweight 1967
0 wins / 1 loss / 0 draws / 0 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Stopped in 2nd round in bout against Jim Mcllvaney in December 1967.


George Wiggs Rating 1 England
Heavyweight1964-67
8 wins / 6 losses / 1 draw / 5 KO

Hometown: West Ham

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Wiggs started out 5-0-1,3KO including wins over Billy Wynter, Lloyd Walford(and 1 draw), and Rocky Campbell. Then came a couple 4 round decision defeats to Charlie Wilson(8-15-2,2) followed by a 3rd round TKO loss to Obe Hepburn in Jan 1966.After wins over Vernon Allen, Chris Cox and Hepburn in Feb, March and May 1966 eh then lost consecutive fights to Vic Moore in Sept and November of that year. Wiggs fought one more time, in March 1967, a 6 round decision defeat to Billy Wynter.

[CONN CHRIS]

Many thanks Rocco.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Here's another handfull of 'Cans....

Bob Johnson Northern Ireland
HW 1967,70
1 win / 1 loss / 0 draws / 1 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Called him Bob 67 because of another Bob Johnson in the data base already. I put his nationality as Northern Ireland because his first fight in December 1967 was in Belfast against Doyle Brown. He KO'd Brown in the 3rd round. BoxRec only lists his nationality as British?

He next shows up in London in December 1970 where he's TKO'd in the 3rd round by Alan Burton.


Jack Charles England
HW 1963,67
0 wins / 2 losses / 0 draws / 0 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Lost to Jimmy Blanche by 2nd round TKO in Feb 1963. Next shows up in BoxRec in May 1967 when he looses a 3 round decision to Bernanrd Pollard.


Peter Thomas England
HW 1967-68
0 wins / 2 losses / 0 draws / 0 KO

Hometown/Birthplace: Bristol, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Thomas was stopped in the 3rd round by Gene Innocent in November 1967 and then in the 2nd round by Bunny Johnson in Feb 1968.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Jack Stevenson England
HW1965,67
1 win / 1 loss / 0 draws / 1 KO

Hometown: Doncaster, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Won by 1st round TKO in April 1965 over Bill Morgan. Stevenson next shows up in November 1967 where he looses on points in 6 rounds to Charlie White.


Manassa Clay Fijian
HW 1967
0 wins / 2 losses / 0 draws / 0 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Clay was stopped in the 2nd round by Johnny Sione(3-0-0,3KO) from Tonga in March 1967. Two months later he fought against another fighter from Tonga, Semi (Sam Haley) Halalilo(21-10-0,16KO). Halalilo KO'd Clay in the 2nd round.


Marius Sappe France
HW 1967-68
0 wins / 2 losses / 0 draws / 0 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Lost a 1st round TKO to Italian HW Pietro Besi(11-10-1,6KO) in December 1967. A year later he fights a young and starting out Jose Manuel Urtain who is 3-0-0 at the time. Urtain KO's Sappe in the 1st round.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Many thanks Rocco.

Thank you Chris!

Rocco

[mh2365]

one of these days when I get to the 60's I'm gonna have alot of HW's .. as always good job Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by mh2365

one of these days when I get to the 60's I'm gonna have alot of HW's .. as always good job Rocco

Thank you Mike.

I'm really enjoying this 67 project. I've been doing more "research" into the time period to find out all I can about the HW's from that time. My ultimate quest I guess would be to get all the HW's from the whole decade of the 60's into the early years of the 70's rated into the game.

Rocco

[gocubsgo]

That would be very cool. Check into the WWBA thread i have going. I have some of your fighters in my uni now.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Another in the long line of record padders....

Ian Hawkins Rating 1 England
HW 1965-67
4 wins / 6 losses / 2 draws / 2 KO

Hometown/birthplace: Hammersmith, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Beat a busy journeyman MW of the 60's, Joe Somerville(38-53-4,9KO) in his first fight. Followed that with the first of three fights against another MW, Tony Moore(21-2-1,14KO), a 5th round TKO loss to Moore. He lost three more straight fights after that to Charlie Wilson(8-15-2,2), Dave Barber(12-5-0,5KO) and Chris Cox(6-6-0,5). After a win and a draw against Tony Moore in early 1966, Hawkins then won a 6 round decision win against George Dulaire in his first career fight in April 1966. Those two fought a month later, this time ending in a 6 round draw. After losses to Roger Tighe and Terry Daly in February and May 1967, Hawkins finished his career in September of that year with a 4th round TKO of LHW Roy Ferguson(3-6-0,3KO).

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

That would be very cool. Check into the WWBA thread i have going. I have some of your fighters in my uni now.

Hey gocubs, I checked you WWBA out some. That was so nice seeing that list of "Great" HW's from the 60's !

I've enjoyed reading through the first few postings. Hope to get caught up with it soon. Keep up the great work on that!

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

[QUOTE=Rocco Del Sesto]Barry Rodney Rating 1 England
Heavyweight 1965-68
4 wins / 14 losses / 4 draws / 2 KO

Hometown: Cricklewood, England
Birthplace: Jamaica

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Barry's four wins were over Tommy Woods twice, Terry Feeley, and Billy Thompson(3-10-0,1).The four draws were against Mick Carter, Ian Mayberry, Mick Carter again and Dennis Avoth. He lost three times to Alex Kelly(4-2-0,0), Jim Mcllvaney twice, Vic Moore twice, Barney Wilson, Des Cox, Gene Innocent, Peter Boddington and Terry Daly.


Just to give you a little update on Rodney. I'd set Rodney's nationality as England, but it probably should be Jamaica which was his birthplace. I found Rodney in the 1968 Ring Record Book listed as Jamaica and I round a referance to him in a Ring magazine as Jamaican. I'm finding the Nationality of these UK fighters a bit confusing at times especially based on what BoxRec shows. This being an example and another example being the fighter I'm working on now, Charlie Wilson (I'm going to spell his name Charley because I have another Charlie Wilson in the data base already and the Ring refers to him as Charley), his nationality as shown in BoxRec is Jamaican but his hometown is Aldgate, England and references both in Ring Record bood and a couple Ring magazines in 68, mention Aldgate and all his fights were in England with a couple in Wales. Why boxrec. lists him as Jamaican??

Anywho, I would change Rodney to Jamaican if you haven't done so already.

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Charley Wilson Rating 1 England
HW 1965-70
8 wins / 15 losses / 2 draws / 2 KO

Hometown: Aldgate, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Wilson's career started out with 2 straight losses to MW Tony Moore(21-2-1,14) and LHW Eric Whistler(1-1-0,0). Then he reeled out 4 wins against George Wiggs twice, Ian Hawkins and Vernon Allen. Following an 8 round draw with a Louis Samuels(5-9-1,1) though, the career went down hill with only a 4-13-1 mark after that. The wins came against Mick Oliver, Vic Moore, Dennis Avoth and surprisingly in his last fight in 1970 against Jamaican Dennis Forbes(8-5-0,5KO). Wilson's other draw with another 8 rounder, against Len Rocky James.

The losses mounted up against Gerry Hassett, Eddie Avoth twice, Roger Tighe twice, Ernie Field, Des Cox, Peter Boddington twice, Terry Daly twice, Dave Ould and Terry Feeley.

[a87star]

Great work on these golden age tomato cans, Rocco! Hopefully you will be able to rate all the ones not done yet. The sixties and seventies is one of my favorite periods in boxing history and i'm glad you are rating these fighters.

Thanks again.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Charlie White Rating 1 England
HW 1963-73
9 wins / 13 losses / 1 draw / 4 KO

Hometown: Loughborough, England
Birthplace: New York, NY, USA

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

White fought one time outside of England, that in September 1969 when he travelled to Copenhagen, Denmark and outpointed in 6 rounds Hans Jorgen Jacobsen. Of White's other 8 victories they included over Jack Stevenson, Dennis Avoth twice, Billy Wynter twice. He lost fights to Len Rocky James, Avoth twice, Terry Feeley, Terry Daly, Wynter, Carl Gizzi, Guibea Roger(13-35-1,11KO), Graham Sines(11-6-0,8KO) and Les Stevens.

His first two career fights shown in BoxRec were in March and May 1963, a 3rd round TKO win over a nobody, and a 3rd round DQ loss to Len Rocky James. After that his record then jumps 4-1/2 years before showing up again in November 1967 with the win over Stevenson.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by a87star

Great work on these golden age tomato cans, Rocco! Hopefully you will be able to rate all the ones not done yet. The sixties and seventies is one of my favorite periods in boxing history and i'm glad you are rating these fighters.

Thanks again.

The 60's and 70's is my favorite period also. I've been picking up old copies of Ring magazines from the period and am thouroughly enjoying reading the stories and see the photos from back then. You mention the tomato cans, that's pretty much what I'm finding with my search through 1967 heavyweights that need rated. But it's fun. My dream would be to get all the Heavys from the 60's and then the 70's rate. Well, if your going to dream, might as well do it big

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Bert Johnson Rating 1 England
HW 1967-71
1 win / 10 losses / 2 draws / 1 KO

Alias: Egbert Johnson
Hometown: Forest Hill, England
Birthplace: West India

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Fought a 6 round draw with Mick Carter in March 1967 then went on and lost four more fights in 1967 to Terry Daly, Peter Boddington, Dennis Avoth and Daly again. Three more losses followed in 1968 against Joe Bugner who was in his 4th career bout, Dave Hawkes(16-5-0,9KO) and Doyle Brown(4-7-0,3KO). Johnson then is unseen in the ring for close to 2-1/2 years until April 1971 when he picks up his lone career win, a 2nd round KO of Albert Austin(6-13-0,4). He then fought a 6 round draw with Arthur Hopkins(0-10-2,0) before going on to loose 3 more fights in 1971 to Graham Sines(11-6-0,8), Del Phillips(13-9-1,7) and Dave Roden(11-8-0,3). Sines adn Roden were just starting out thier careers.

9 of Johnson's 10 losses ended in KO or TKO fashion.

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Rocco Del Sesto

The 60's and 70's is my favorite period also. I've been picking up old copies of Ring magazines from the period and am thouroughly enjoying reading the stories and see the photos from back then. You mention the tomato cans, that's pretty much what I'm finding with my search through 1967 heavyweights that need rated. But it's fun. My dream would be to get all the Heavys from the 60's and then the 70's rate. Well, if your going to dream, might as well do it big

Rocco

I agree. This is a great project to work on and personally the tomato cans you are finding have a common theme of facing the top fighters from that time. Also, their records might not be complete either. A guy that is 0-4 on recorded record could have had many more fights and possibly have a better record. Regardless of that, you do a great job with the info you do have and the work is definitely appreciated by me.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by a87star

I agree. This is a great project to work on and personally the tomato cans you are finding have a common theme of facing the top fighters from that time. Also, their records might not be complete either. A guy that is 0-4 on recorded record could have had many more fights and possibly have a better record. Regardless of that, you do a great job with the info you do have and the work is definitely appreciated by me.

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. It's always nice to hear others are making good use of your work!

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Paul Brown Rating 1 England
HW 1967-69
2 wins / 11 losses / 0 draws / 2 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

BoxRec gives no nationality, but, Brown fought his entire career in England of what BoxRec shows of it. He started his career with 5 bouts in 1967, with wins against Leon Smart(2-4-0,2KO) from Trinidad and Tobago and on December 20 he met up with one Joe Bugner. Bugner was making his professional debute as he and Brown squared off at the Anglo-American Sporting Club, Mayfair, London, England. It turned out to be Brown's 2nd and last career victory as he KO'd Bugner in the 3rd round!

After that, 7 straight lost fights in 1968 and one more loss in Feb 1969 finished off Brown. Losses included to Dennis Avoth, Gene Innocent, Bunny Johnson, Terry Feeley, Bugner twice in rematches, and two guys making their professionel debutes but who's career also amounted to nothing, Rodney Parkinson(4-4-0,3KO) and Jack Cotes(4-13-1,3KO).


Mick Carter Rating 1 England
HW 1966-67
2 wins / 8 losses / 5 draws / 0 KO

Hometown: Birmingham, England

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Mick started out fighting Light Heavyweight with 8 bouts in 1966. Those included draws with Barry Rodney and Clive Tranter, one win, that against a Ken Lewis(1-6-0,1KO) and losses against Jim Mcllvaney twice, Derek Groombridge, Clive Tranter and Phil Watford.

His draw with Tranter in December 1966 was followed with a win over Tranter in January 1967. Carter then fought 6 more times in 1967 beefing up a bit into the Heavyweight region. Unfortuately all he could muster was 3 draws against Bert Johnson, Mcllvaney and Rodney to go with losses to Terry Daly, Gene Innocent and Terry Feeley.


These are the last 2 of the Englanders that I found. I still got some miscellaneoius UK's from Scotland, Jamaica, etc to do yet. I'll be getting those and one other Frenchman and then I be starting into the Germans and Italians.