2006 Oakland A's Thread - Page 87

mikev · 08-06-2006, 07:37 PM

That blew me away when Macha actually went out and argued. I honestly can't remember another time when he's done that.

OF course, he managed to screw everything up anyways by yanking Calero after 2 quick outs and Ibanez coming up. Apparently he was in the locker room trying to get another pack of Juicyfruit to rip into yesterday when Calero made Ibanez look like a Little Leaguer.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-06-2006, 07:59 PM

Well I'm back from my North Dakota roadtrip, and I see the A's won again. So I was gone 7/30 - 8/6, and during that time the A's went 6-1. You're welcome, guys!

But now I'm not going anywhere else the rest of the baseball season, so they're going to just have to keep it up on their own.

mirrf · 08-08-2006, 12:58 PM

Any win in which Loaiza starts is a good win.

At this point, can you expect anything better from Loaiza than 6 2/3 innings and 4 runs?

mikev · 08-08-2006, 01:36 PM

For 21 million dollars, I expect more.

Realistically, he's a sack of cr*p and I doubt he'll ever have an ERA below 5.5 again. Total waste of money when Kirk Sarloos put up better numbers last year at a league minimum salary. Finding a way to ditch Loaiza should be priority 1a, along with extending Zito with the money that Loaiza is getting paid.

magnet · 08-08-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

For 21 million dollars, I expect more.

Realistically, he's a sack of cr*p and I doubt he'll ever have an ERA below 5.5 again. Total waste of money when Kirk Sarloos put up better numbers last year at a league minimum salary. Finding a way to ditch Loaiza should be priority 1a, along with extending Zito with the money that Loaiza is getting paid.

Short of homicide, I think they are stuck with Loaiza.

JDOldSchool · 08-08-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

For 21 million dollars, I expect more.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure if you should. It seems like that's not much more than the expected salary for a piece o' poo pitcher these days.

mikev · 08-08-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Unfortunately, I'm not sure if you should. It seems like that's not much more than the expected salary for a piece o' poo pitcher these days.

Kirk Sarloos was far, far better last year than Loaiza has been this year. 6.7M cheaper, too.

I was against the signing since it was announced.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-08-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Kirk Sarloos was far, far better last year than Loaiza has been this year. 6.7M cheaper, too.

I was against the signing since it was announced.

Me too. This was the email I sent to my brother upon hearing the news:

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From: Kelly
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:59 PM
To: Gordon, Jason (CAG-AP)
Subject: Who the %*$! kidnapped Billy Beane and started making deals????

Esteban Loiza, 3 years $21 million?? What the freaking flippity fork?!?!?!?

http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NAS...=.jsp&c_id=oak

BadluckinOOTP · 08-08-2006, 11:35 PM

That email was sent on my birthday.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-08-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BadluckinOOTP

That email was sent on my birthday.

Wow, it's like you got a big birthday cake and Esteban Loaiza jumped out of it.

JDOldSchool · 08-08-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Kirk Sarloos was far, far better last year than Loaiza has been this year. 6.7M cheaper, too.

I was against the signing since it was announced.

Oh, I agree. I was just commenting on the free agent market. I think Loaiza would've received a similar figure from another team. I, too, wish he had gotten that deal from another team.

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Wow, it's like you got a big birthday cake and Esteban Loaiza jumped out of it.

Icky.

mikev · 08-09-2006, 12:21 AM

Milton Bradley shatters more bats than anybody else I've ever seen.

mikev · 08-09-2006, 12:38 AM

WHY MACHA? WHY DO YOU NOT PINCH RUN FOR THOMAS IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 8TH INNING?

I hate you.

mikev · 08-09-2006, 12:43 AM

dola,

My point is proven once Thomas is PR for when the count goes to 3-2 and the runner will be going.

Perfect example that Macha is managing for the tie and not the win.

I still hate him.

mikev · 08-09-2006, 01:13 AM

trola,

the Interference double play must be what people were talking about when we all heard about Kendall's "intangibles," and the "little things" he does.

It's just the "hitting the ball" and "throwing guys out stealing" that he doesn't do so well. :P

JDOldSchool · 08-09-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mikev

dola,

My point is proven once Thomas is PR for when the count goes to 3-2 and the runner will be going.

Perfect example that Macha is managing for the tie and not the win.

I still hate him.

I think any manager should give a second thought to removing the best offensive player on the team when the score is in your favor. I think Macha played it well.

If the Rangers had gotten 1 more run in the 9th, you would've posted the exact opposite thing when Perez, not Thomas, came up to bat with the game on the line.

mikev · 08-09-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

I think any manager should give a second thought to removing the best offensive player on the team when the score is in your favor. I think Macha played it well.

If the Rangers had gotten 1 more run in the 9th, you would've posted the exact opposite thing when Perez, not Thomas, came up to bat with the game on the line.

*IF* the Rangers had come back to tie it, Thomas' spot wouldn't have been slotted to appear until the 11th inning.

As proven by the fact that Street gave up 2 runs in the 9th (don't get me started on the overworking and that Gaudin shoulda stayed out there), and the run Perez scored becomes that much more valuable.

IMO, the bottom line is that there's a SLIM chance of needing extras, and you need to play for the insurance runs right now so you can give your closer (one of the best in the league) that extra cushion. Playing not to lose instead of trying to win was the wrong decision last night.

JDOldSchool · 08-09-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

*IF* the Rangers had come back to tie it, Thomas' spot wouldn't have been slotted to appear until the 11th inning.

Um...Thomas' spot would've been up third in the 9th.

mikev · 08-09-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Um...Thomas' spot would've been up third in the 9th.

yeah um, I'm not sure where I got the 11th from. Ignore that.

Though I still stand by what I said before. I'll take the 2 run lead and give up Thomas.

JDOldSchool · 08-10-2006, 12:12 AM

I like how none of us post on days like today, however, there is news.

Witasick was reinstated from the DL and Komine was sent down. Witasick continued his year-long suckage.

After the game, Halsey was sent down to get a couple starts in before he's needed in a couple weeks. Not sure who is back up, but I'd guess Kennedy or Sauerbeck will be put on the roster within a day or so.

08-06-2006, 07:37 PM	#1721
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	That blew me away when Macha actually went out and argued. I honestly can't remember another time when he's done that. OF course, he managed to screw everything up anyways by yanking Calero after 2 quick outs and Ibanez coming up. Apparently he was in the locker room trying to get another pack of Juicyfruit to rip into yesterday when Calero made Ibanez look like a Little Leaguer. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-08-2006, 01:36 PM	#1724
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	For 21 million dollars, I expect more. Realistically, he's a sack of cr*p and I doubt he'll ever have an ERA below 5.5 again. Total waste of money when Kirk Sarloos put up better numbers last year at a league minimum salary. Finding a way to ditch Loaiza should be priority 1a, along with extending Zito with the money that Loaiza is getting paid. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-08-2006, 11:35 PM	#1729
BadluckinOOTP All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OKC Posts: 1,534	That email was sent on my birthday. __________________

08-09-2006, 12:21 AM	#1732
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Milton Bradley shatters more bats than anybody else I've ever seen. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-09-2006, 12:38 AM	#1733
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	WHY MACHA? WHY DO YOU NOT PINCH RUN FOR THOMAS IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 8TH INNING? I hate you. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-06-2006, 07:59 PM	#1722
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Well I'm back from my North Dakota roadtrip, and I see the A's won again. So I was gone 7/30 - 8/6, and during that time the A's went 6-1. You're welcome, guys! But now I'm not going anywhere else the rest of the baseball season, so they're going to just have to keep it up on their own.

08-08-2006, 12:58 PM	#1723
mirrf All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 1,849	Any win in which Loaiza starts is a good win. At this point, can you expect anything better from Loaiza than 6 2/3 innings and 4 runs?

08-09-2006, 12:43 AM	#1734
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	dola, My point is proven once Thomas is PR for when the count goes to 3-2 and the runner will be going. Perfect example that Macha is managing for the tie and not the win. I still hate him. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-09-2006, 01:13 AM	#1735
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	trola, the Interference double play must be what people were talking about when we all heard about Kendall's "intangibles," and the "little things" he does. It's just the "hitting the ball" and "throwing guys out stealing" that he doesn't do so well. :P __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-10-2006, 12:12 AM	#1740
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	I like how none of us post on days like today, however, there is news. Witasick was reinstated from the DL and Komine was sent down. Witasick continued his year-long suckage. After the game, Halsey was sent down to get a couple starts in before he's needed in a couple weeks. Not sure who is back up, but I'd guess Kennedy or Sauerbeck will be put on the roster within a day or so.