BUG - Double Player History

dangarion · 06-03-2006, 02:55 PM

After crashes of the game, the Player History is messed up. Basically it appears that after a crash although the game reverts to the last save, the player history is being wrote to and that creates alternative histories for the crashed game and the continued game.

Screen shot included.

TC Dale · 07-05-2006, 09:35 AM

Is this still an issue? More feedback needed.

dangarion · 07-05-2006, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC Dale

Is this still an issue? More feedback needed.

I'm not really sure I would have to have the game crash to verify. And since I'm waiting for the new patch to play further.

Zeyes · 07-05-2006, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC Dale

Is this still an issue?

Absolutely, and probably unavoidable, given that the player histories are updated instantaneously, but most of the other data only when the game is being saved.

The following screenshot will show you a player who was apparently inaugural-drafted three times, by three different teams. All I did was: create game -> go through inaugural draft -> crash game via task manager -> restart OOTP and reload game (we're back on Jan 1st) -> go through inaugural draft again -> lather, rinse, repeat

Short of keeping all player history changes in a memory buffer until the game is actually saved, I see no way to prevent this from happening.

dangarion · 07-05-2006, 02:46 PM

Maybe build in a revert players history from crash option? That would remove all each players history (from their cards) of anything for the specific year that is currently being worked on? Not sure how possible that would be to do, but it's a suggestion.

fantom1979 · 07-05-2006, 09:42 PM

I have seen the same issue, but I really dont think its avoidable given the current way the game creates player histories.

Cras · 07-05-2006, 11:00 PM

It can be avoided by re-implementing the way 6.5 and earlier did auto-save. That way it is almost certainly to get have a save at or close to the crash point. The way the game works now you can sim for months or even years and not have a save so thus you can crash and have to replay those months, which results in much doubling in the player history.

endgame · 07-05-2006, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeyes

All I did was: create game -> go through inaugural draft -> crash game via task manager -> restart OOTP and reload game (we're back on Jan 1st) -> go through inaugural draft again -> lather, rinse, repeat

Short of keeping all player history changes in a memory buffer until the game is actually saved, I see no way to prevent this from happening.

I applaud and thank you for demonstrating this incident. At the same time, I hate you for exposing me to it.

Note to self: Add one more haunt to my worry list. Thanks, Zeyes.

battists · 07-18-2006, 01:20 PM

I'm sorry for the awfully slow response to this thread.

Obviously, some time has passed since you posted this issue, and the 1.0.2 patch has since been released as well. Are you still seeing this issue? I have not been able to reproduce it so far.

Please let me know!

Thanks,

Steve

Zeyes · 07-18-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Obviously, some time has passed since you posted this issue, and the 1.0.2 patch has since been released as well. Are you still seeing this issue? I have not been able to reproduce it so far.

Yep, still reproducible in 1.0.2 the same way as before (see post #4).

battists · 07-18-2006, 02:28 PM

I logged this as TT # 2305.

We'll see if "the man" can come up with a solution.

Thanks,

Steve

ps And, ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR LEAGUES!!!

battists · 07-19-2006, 08:09 AM

Not sure about the nature of the fix, but Markus claimed this will be fixed in the next patch. Haven't had an opportunity to verify it yet, though.

Thanks!

Steve

06-03-2006, 02:55 PM	#1
dangarion All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 569	BUG - Double Player History After crashes of the game, the Player History is messed up. Basically it appears that after a crash although the game reverts to the last save, the player history is being wrote to and that creates alternative histories for the crashed game and the continued game. Screen shot included. Attached Images __________________ DanGarion GM - Los Angeles Dodgers The Peanuts and Cracker Jack Baseball League PCJBL!

07-05-2006, 09:35 AM	#2
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,983	Is this still an issue? More feedback needed. __________________ ----------------------------------

07-05-2006, 02:46 PM	#5
dangarion All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 569	Maybe build in a revert players history from crash option? That would remove all each players history (from their cards) of anything for the specific year that is currently being worked on? Not sure how possible that would be to do, but it's a suggestion. __________________ DanGarion GM - Los Angeles Dodgers The Peanuts and Cracker Jack Baseball League PCJBL!

07-05-2006, 09:42 PM	#6
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	I have seen the same issue, but I really dont think its avoidable given the current way the game creates player histories. __________________

07-05-2006, 11:00 PM	#7
Cras Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LEO Posts: 3,789	It can be avoided by re-implementing the way 6.5 and earlier did auto-save. That way it is almost certainly to get have a save at or close to the crash point. The way the game works now you can sim for months or even years and not have a save so thus you can crash and have to replay those months, which results in much doubling in the player history. __________________ The Chicago White Sox 1906, 1917, 2005 World Series Champions 1900, 1901, 1906, 1917, 1919, 1959, 2005 American League Champions 2000, 2005, 2008 American League Central Division Champions 1983, 1993 American League West Division Champions OOTP \| Orbiter \| SSMS \| FSX \| LoL \| MLP:FIM!

07-18-2006, 01:20 PM	#9
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I'm sorry for the awfully slow response to this thread. Obviously, some time has passed since you posted this issue, and the 1.0.2 patch has since been released as well. Are you still seeing this issue? I have not been able to reproduce it so far. Please let me know! Thanks, Steve

07-18-2006, 02:28 PM	#11
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I logged this as TT # 2305. We'll see if "the man" can come up with a solution. Thanks, Steve ps And, ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR LEAGUES!!!

07-19-2006, 08:09 AM	#12
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Not sure about the nature of the fix, but Markus claimed this will be fixed in the next patch. Haven't had an opportunity to verify it yet, though. Thanks! Steve