Official Rolen/Cubby Player Rating Question Thread - Page 13

larkin1121 · 07-17-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KySteveH

General note about pitchers - I have noticed that many of the SP's have way inflated hitting ratings. Aaron Harang is a horrible hitter, and (on the 20-80 scale) he's 39 contact, 43 power, 42 eye. Brandon Claussen is 40/44/43.

Does that seem high to you guys?

Why are you complaining about the Reds pitchers bieng able to hit? I say jack it up more!

randomlefty10 · 07-17-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jayslick

how about 5 in 2 years then?

in whats is roughly the same period of time in real life we currently have zero.

Randy Johnson was the last Major League player to finish a no-hitter. He pitched it on Tuesday, May 18 2004 with the Arizona Diamondbacks against the Atlanta Braves.

with a jan1, 2006 start im at july 22, 2007 and i've had 5 in around 18 months

thats too many if you are replicating the current era.

What's your definition of the current era? There were 5 no hitters tossed in a 2 year span between 1995 and 1997. The all-time average is about 2 per season.

Mike Lowe · 07-17-2006, 08:39 PM

When do you guys start your career (for the GMs out there)? I'd love to start right away but there are no teams available and I don't feel like "appointing" myself. How long will I be waiting for a job? During a quick sim of another file I saw the COL GM job open up but I could not stop the sim quick enough for me to apply (if I even could).

I'm assuming after the World Series eh? I just think it's a stretch, not that me being a GM under any circumstances isn't a stretch, to take the reins of a team right at opening day without me being able to make any moves myself.

Mike Lowe · 07-17-2006, 08:40 PM

Oh, and have the Coaches GM's currently in the game been given tendencies or just their ratings? The ratings appear accurate but not the tendencies. Looks great with the names and pics.

evanbarth · 07-17-2006, 11:45 PM

Quick question was wondering if there was a consensus on trade difficulty for the roster set?

Amazinin06 · 07-18-2006, 05:51 PM

Looking at the Mets (since it's the only team I really follow):

David Wright is underrated in terms of contact and power, both need to be higher... it's obvious that DW is going to be easily .310 35 120 this year, possibly more and he's not peaked...

Jose Reyes is fine... maybe a bit higher contact potential...

Jose Valentin needs a higher contact rating... he's a .260-.270 hitter, not a .220-.230 hitter...

Beltran needs a higher power rating... last year was an abberation, he should average 32-36 HRs a year...

Ramon Castro should have a lower power rating...

Delgado should have a slightly lower contact rating...

Victor Diaz is HIGHLY overrated... his contact and power should be way down...

Paul Lo Duca needs a higher contact rating...

As for pitching

Victor Zambrano needs a lower control rating...

Tom Glavine needs higher control and movement... his projected ERA should be about 4.10 or 4.20...

Aaron Heilman needs lower endurance

Pedro looks fine, maybe a TAD lower on all ratings...

Duaner Sanchez needs a boost in all ratings...

Steve Trachsel needs a bit of a boost...

BadluckinOOTP · 07-18-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazinin06

Looking at the Mets (since it's the only team I really follow):

David Wright is underrated in terms of contact and power, both need to be higher... it's obvious that DW is going to be easily .310 35 120 this year, possibly more and he's not peaked...

Jose Valentin needs a higher contact rating... he's a .260-.270 hitter, not a .220-.230 hitter...

Beltran needs a higher power rating... last year was an abberation, he should average 32-36 HRs a year...

Beltran has only hit more than 30 once in his career. Maybe 28-32, but he shouldn't get up to 36.

Jose Valentin hit .170 last year and .216 the year before. Let him finish the season at .260-.270 before you raise him up.

David Wright should be a 35 homerun guy, but I don't know if you can say he'll have MORE power later on his career.

Willmore · 07-18-2006, 07:58 PM

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Jose Valentin needs a higher contact rating... he's a .260-.270 hitter, not a .220-.230 hitter...

He's a 36 year-old with a .243 career average and as mentioned before an awful last 2 years. I think it's safe to say that this season is an aberration, not a statistical inevitability.

chaerulez · 07-18-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Willmore

He's a 36 year-old with a .243 career average and as mentioned before an awful last 2 years. I think it's safe to say that this season is an aberration, not a statistical inevitability.

As a White Sox fan, I saw Jose play for a few years, there is no reason to increase his contact. This season is the fluke.

Erich Ingram · 07-18-2006, 10:06 PM

One thing I want everyone to remember with this is these numbers are based on 550 at bats, so if a player hits 40 home runs in a season with 605 at bats that would mean he gets rated as 36 hrs. I know many of you probably know this but I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page with these ratings.

adichiara · 07-18-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chaerulez

As a White Sox fan, I saw Jose play for a few years, there is no reason to increase his contact. This season is the fluke.

Totally incorrect

H% last three years

2006 31%
2005 21%
2004 24%

If you do some research you will learn the average Hit% is 30. Anything 3% above or below will significantly effect on the players batting average since in baseball for every 10 balls in play 3 will be hits (simply put, I believe its a tad more complicated but this is off the top of my head). Same effect goes for hitters. Its a stat that shows how certain players have lucky or unlucky seasons. Valentin's 2005 was the most unlucky season I have ever seen. His 2004 was also unlucky, its very simple. This year, he isn't getting lucky BA wise he's right at where he should be.

CubbyFan23 · 07-18-2006, 11:07 PM

He has had one season over .260 in his entire career. He has had had a .250 average or higher twice since 1998. I am having a lot of trouble believing he is all of the sudden a .260 hitter.

Erich Ingram · 07-18-2006, 11:10 PM

Wait you are kidding in trying to say this year is the norm for Jose Valentin right. The guy has hit over .259 once in his career prior to this. There is no way this year is the norm for him. Plain and simple the guy has had more seasons under .230 than over .250 prior to this year. He is a .243 career hitter for a reason.

Lucky or unlucky he doesn't hit the ball enough in his career to be a better hitter. This is silly, Jose Valenting is a low average, high k guy with good power. This season is a fluke for his batting average.

pujol5 · 07-18-2006, 11:19 PM

I was just looking around the league and noticed that Cardinal prospect OF Colby Rasmus doesn't have any ratings for fielding anywhere. Is he that bad that he doesn't merit any rating?

GoldenGlove · 07-18-2006, 11:23 PM

He is around a .260 hitter against righties, but terrible against lefties. If he has extreme splits, I'm happy. I have not checked him out yet. Last year was bad all around, and it really bottoms out his stats.

Erich Ingram · 07-18-2006, 11:25 PM

I think it is an error with his arm rating which will block out the overall rating with the player. There was an import error way back in the beginning that screwed up the OF Arms for all the players, I know that I had created him early on so he was affected by this problem.

adichiara · 07-18-2006, 11:30 PM

I'm just talking baseball wise, he's been unlucky a lot, it happens. SOme guys get lucky a lot (BA wise). I'd go into more detail but I don't subscribe to any stats sites anymore. I don't care about the rating.

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Nisca11 · 07-18-2006, 11:48 PM

Not sure if anyone posted this. But the Single Season and Career totals for Hitting are not entered. Also on my version the columns of the page is crooked. The pitching numbers are input and showing, however the "records" are for only Active players. There is no historical player statistics.

Thanks again for all the hard work! You two are doing an amazing job so far from what I have simmed. Nice, very nice.

KySteveH · 07-19-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by larkin1121

Why are you complaining about the Reds pitchers bieng able to hit? I say jack it up more!

You know, you have a point! While you're at it, Cubby, make Eric Milton not give up as many long balls. Oh wait, that's his problem in real life too!

randomlefty10 · 07-19-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by adichiara

If you do some research you will learn the average Hit% is 30. Anything 3% above or below will significantly effect on the players batting average since in baseball for every 10 balls in play 3 will be hits (simply put, I believe its a tad more complicated but this is off the top of my head). Same effect goes for hitters.

No, it doesn't. The accumulated league average will be around 30%, and yes, that's where we get the standard on BABIP from, but that point does NOT hold on the individual batter side. Batters DO have control over where pitches are hit.

Furthermore, I have no idea where you are getting those hit% numbers from. How can they be so vastly higher than his batting avg?

07-18-2006, 10:06 PM	#250
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,201	One thing I want everyone to remember with this is these numbers are based on 550 at bats, so if a player hits 40 home runs in a season with 605 at bats that would mean he gets rated as 36 hrs. I know many of you probably know this but I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page with these ratings. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

07-18-2006, 11:10 PM	#253
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,201	Wait you are kidding in trying to say this year is the norm for Jose Valentin right. The guy has hit over .259 once in his career prior to this. There is no way this year is the norm for him. Plain and simple the guy has had more seasons under .230 than over .250 prior to this year. He is a .243 career hitter for a reason. Lucky or unlucky he doesn't hit the ball enough in his career to be a better hitter. This is silly, Jose Valenting is a low average, high k guy with good power. This season is a fluke for his batting average. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

07-18-2006, 11:23 PM	#255
GoldenGlove Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 339	He is around a .260 hitter against righties, but terrible against lefties. If he has extreme splits, I'm happy. I have not checked him out yet. Last year was bad all around, and it really bottoms out his stats. __________________ ISBL - New York Yankees B.I.G. - Oakland Athletics TheMLB - Cleveland Indians

07-18-2006, 11:25 PM	#256
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,201	I think it is an error with his arm rating which will block out the overall rating with the player. There was an import error way back in the beginning that screwed up the OF Arms for all the players, I know that I had created him early on so he was affected by this problem. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

07-18-2006, 11:48 PM	#258
Nisca11 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brazil Posts: 25	Not sure if anyone posted this. But the Single Season and Career totals for Hitting are not entered. Also on my version the columns of the page is crooked. The pitching numbers are input and showing, however the "records" are for only Active players. There is no historical player statistics. Thanks again for all the hard work! You two are doing an amazing job so far from what I have simmed. Nice, very nice. __________________ I'm Winston Wolfe... I solve problems. If a soccer player falls down in the forest, does he make a sound?

07-17-2006, 08:39 PM	#243
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,165	When do you guys start your career (for the GMs out there)? I'd love to start right away but there are no teams available and I don't feel like "appointing" myself. How long will I be waiting for a job? During a quick sim of another file I saw the COL GM job open up but I could not stop the sim quick enough for me to apply (if I even could). I'm assuming after the World Series eh? I just think it's a stretch, not that me being a GM under any circumstances isn't a stretch, to take the reins of a team right at opening day without me being able to make any moves myself.

07-17-2006, 08:40 PM	#244
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,165	Oh, and have the Coaches GM's currently in the game been given tendencies or just their ratings? The ratings appear accurate but not the tendencies. Looks great with the names and pics.

07-17-2006, 11:45 PM	#245
evanbarth Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 328	Quick question was wondering if there was a consensus on trade difficulty for the roster set?

07-18-2006, 05:51 PM	#246
Amazinin06 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3	Looking at the Mets (since it's the only team I really follow): David Wright is underrated in terms of contact and power, both need to be higher... it's obvious that DW is going to be easily .310 35 120 this year, possibly more and he's not peaked... Jose Reyes is fine... maybe a bit higher contact potential... Jose Valentin needs a higher contact rating... he's a .260-.270 hitter, not a .220-.230 hitter... Beltran needs a higher power rating... last year was an abberation, he should average 32-36 HRs a year... Ramon Castro should have a lower power rating... Delgado should have a slightly lower contact rating... Victor Diaz is HIGHLY overrated... his contact and power should be way down... Paul Lo Duca needs a higher contact rating... As for pitching Victor Zambrano needs a lower control rating... Tom Glavine needs higher control and movement... his projected ERA should be about 4.10 or 4.20... Aaron Heilman needs lower endurance Pedro looks fine, maybe a TAD lower on all ratings... Duaner Sanchez needs a boost in all ratings... Steve Trachsel needs a bit of a boost...

07-18-2006, 11:07 PM	#252
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	He has had one season over .260 in his entire career. He has had had a .250 average or higher twice since 1998. I am having a lot of trouble believing he is all of the sudden a .260 hitter.

07-18-2006, 11:19 PM	#254
pujol5 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 50	I was just looking around the league and noticed that Cardinal prospect OF Colby Rasmus doesn't have any ratings for fielding anywhere. Is he that bad that he doesn't merit any rating?

07-18-2006, 11:30 PM	#257
adichiara Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 121	I'm just talking baseball wise, he's been unlucky a lot, it happens. SOme guys get lucky a lot (BA wise). I'd go into more detail but I don't subscribe to any stats sites anymore. I don't care about the rating. -