How the hell do you trade?!

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

There's a really easy solution for this. SI needs to bring back both the trading block and shop player as options that are off by default. This will make everyone happy, as those who love them can use them and those who don't want them can just never turn them on.

The "you can use the shop player option to rip off the AI" argument doesn't hold any water, because you can do that now in OOTP 2006 if you want to by hitting "Force Trade."

It's on my list for OOTP 2007...

[Wheele8]

I desperately miss the "shop-player" feature. I used it frequently and was shocked something similar was not available in 2006. I get aggravated when people complain about it being an avenue to ripping off the AI, and thus should not be an option. No one forced you to rip off the AI. I simply do not have the time to enjoy the trading feature as it is currently constituted. It takes me too much time now to actually GM a team.

[orwell]

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

After awhile I realized the trading block was just letting me rip off the AI without even having to work at it to find good players. You know, put out my 4th starter and all of a sudden clubs are throwing their blue chip prospect at me. That was fun of course since it wasn't that hard to always build up strong clubs but after awhile it just struck me as unrealistic. I can see the game having one Charlie Finley but not 20 of them so I tend to prefer the new system. Slower, but more back and forth and the AI is smarter in what it will take.

Ideally the trading block would be retained - along with the superior AI.

[orwell]

Originally Posted by JimG

It is if the trading AI is weak. So maybe it was easier to make the actual trading interface harder than make the trading AI better. And once the first few patchs are done Markus can switch his focus to the trading AI then re-enable the trading block. Or maybe he just didnt want to look like he was playing catch up anymore in this area when theres other stuff to do.

Of course that's right about the AI. I'm not a programmer, but it seems if the AI is improved for the current trading format, it would also be improved for a trading block. Isn't a trading block just a different way of sorting sets of players established by the AI? i.e. it's a filter that shows every player in the league that is valued equal to or greater than the player you're looking to unload. Maybe I'm wrong.

Doesn't matter at this point - looks like there's no way the block will be back until 2007.

[orwell]

Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

What was so good about the block? Seems there is a divide here.

The fact that you could determine immediately what players you could receive in exchange for someone you're looking to unload. I hope you're not buying the argument that trading block=ability to loot the AI. If the AI is strong, the trading block can be just as "realistic" an option as the current trial-and-error, back-and-forth e-mail system.

Some that enjoy the minutiae, tedium and micromanaging involved with exchanging dozens of counteroffers with dozens of teams just to determine what you could get for your surplus shortstop don't need the trading block. That doesn't mean it shouldn't exist as an option. To me, it saves tons and tons of time, and I don't think I'm the only one who feels that way.

I play out a lot of my games - yet I don't dismiss the ability to simulate 10,000 seasons in an evening as "unrealistic" and argue that others not be allowed to use it. That's the beauty of this game -customization and options. The trading block is sorely missed along these lines.

[Teyeler]

Originally Posted by wilkiburger

I cant seem to trade anyone, so maybe im doing it wrong. Can someone inform me how to do it cheers

Download and read the manual.