Liriano gets his due Finally - Page 2

eriqjaffe · 07-11-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Go Tribe

i think they wanted to get a guy with as few RBI's as Pierzynski to balance things out...

Intangibles, baby.

molarmite · 07-11-2006, 01:35 PM

Go Francisco!

Eric · 07-11-2006, 04:40 PM

So the question is will Liriano survive the All-star game?

Remember Atlee Hammaker? He was an up-n-coming pitcher for the SF Giants. In 1983, he gave up the first grand-slam in All Star Game history to Fred Lynn. It seemed like he wasn't the same after that. He finished the season 10-9 with a 2.25 ERA but wasn't didn't last long in the major leagues.

Davey Eckstein · 07-11-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

So the question is will Liriano survive the All-star game?

Yes.

drprestwood · 07-11-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

So the question is will Liriano survive the All-star game?

Remember Atlee Hammaker? He was an up-n-coming pitcher for the SF Giants. In 1983, he gave up the first grand-slam in All Star Game history to Fred Lynn. It seemed like he wasn't the same after that. He finished the season 10-9 with a 2.25 ERA but wasn't didn't last long in the major leagues.

He wasn't the same after that, or he wasn't the same after blowing out his elbow AND shoulder? Also, Hammaker last pitched at age 37.

Eric · 07-11-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by drprestwood

He wasn't the same after that, or he wasn't the same after blowing out his elbow AND shoulder? Also, Hammaker last pitched at age 37.

Maybe the grand slam scarred him emotionally which manifested as an elbow/shoulder injury. I also remember that he was bit by a spider and had the nickname 'Spiderman' for a while.

He pitched at age 37 but he was just a reliever for the last few years.

Dagrims · 07-11-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

So the question is will Liriano survive the All-star game?

I'd wager a fair amount of money that Liriano will not see any action this evening. He was a last minute addition and Guillen's already said he has no designs on playing everyone. This game would have to go 12 innings before Liriano would even sniff the mound.

Go Tribe · 07-12-2006, 04:28 PM

And now we know that Guillen offered Schilling before finally "settling" on Liriano
http://redsox.bostonherald.com/other...ticleid=148009

molarmite · 07-12-2006, 04:59 PM

Well Liriano didn't get to play. That's a bummer.

eriqjaffe · 07-12-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Tribe

And now we know that Guillen offered Schilling before finally "settling" on Liriano

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/other...ticleid=148009

sigh...

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Originally Posted by the article

the call went to Schilling, the next player in line based on player balloting.

Are the player ballot results made public? I'd be curious to see if Liriano finished ahead of Schilling.

edit: Well, here are some of the results, anyways. Niether one finished in the top 5:

http://www.sportspagemagazine.com/pu...llstar-p.shtml

Go Tribe · 07-12-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

sigh...

Are the player ballot results made public? I'd be curious to see if Liriano finished ahead of Schilling.

edit: Well, here are some of the results, anyways. Niether one finished in the top 5:

http://www.sportspagemagazine.com/pu...llstar-p.shtml

i'd be surprised if liriano did finish ahead of schilling but would also be surprised if liriano was next in line right behind schilling.

Davey Eckstein · 07-12-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

Well Liriano didn't get to play. That's a bummer.

He'll have plenty of more chances.

drprestwood · 07-12-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Tribe

i'd be surprised if liriano did finish ahead of schilling but would also be surprised if liriano was next in line right behind schilling.

I would be surprised if Liriano finished ahead of Schilling...but why not right behind him? You don't think the players whose teams faced him would have voted for him?

Go Tribe · 07-12-2006, 09:33 PM

yes but he hasn't started against many AL teams this year

Texas
Baltimore
Seattle
LA

that's it - he didn't make a start until 5/19 (which makes his 10 wins that much more amazing) and has actually started against 4 NL teams this year

Bay Area Bob · 07-12-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Tribe

yes but he hasn't started against many AL teams this year

Texas
Baltimore
Seattle
LA

that's it - he didn't make a start until 5/19 (which makes his 10 wins that much more amazing) and has actually started against 4 NL teams this year

Uh, I watched Liriano vs. King Felix like a month ago on FSN NW.

Go Tribe · 07-12-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Bob

Uh, I watched Liriano vs. King Felix like a month ago on FSN NW.

uh - a month ago was june and I put that he pitched against seattle??????

Bay Area Bob · 07-12-2006, 11:42 PM

Oh. I thought you were saying he had not started against Seattle.

drprestwood · 07-13-2006, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Go Tribe

yes but he hasn't started against many AL teams this year

Texas
Baltimore
Seattle
LA

that's it - he didn't make a start until 5/19 (which makes his 10 wins that much more amazing) and has actually started against 4 NL teams this year

...exactly. Players vote for both leagues. Word about Liriano spread through the NL as well, and so he should have had more votes.

JWay · 07-13-2006, 02:16 AM

yeah but curt schilling plays video games

UngratefulDead · 07-14-2006, 12:52 AM

And tonight Hafner showed why he deserved that last All-Star spot more than Liriano..

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Eric All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,234	So the question is will Liriano survive the All-star game? Remember Atlee Hammaker? He was an up-n-coming pitcher for the SF Giants. In 1983, he gave up the first grand-slam in All Star Game history to Fred Lynn. It seemed like he wasn't the same after that. He finished the season 10-9 with a 2.25 ERA but wasn't didn't last long in the major leagues.

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Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	yes but he hasn't started against many AL teams this year Texas Baltimore Seattle LA that's it - he didn't make a start until 5/19 (which makes his 10 wins that much more amazing) and has actually started against 4 NL teams this year

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Bay Area Bob Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alabama via Oregon via Alabama Posts: 14,268 Posts: 276	Oh. I thought you were saying he had not started against Seattle.

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JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,031	yeah but curt schilling plays video games

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UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	And tonight Hafner showed why he deserved that last All-Star spot more than Liriano..